2-butoxyethanol?

java said:
Which apc is consider to be safe if any?
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Lol. Reason i started this thread.

Looks like nothing is.... but if you wear gloves and dilute stuff. It should not matter a lot any way.

What I come to understand.

Then there is always vinegar.
 
The reason i ask is i let one of my friends use some citrus degreaser to clean his wheels and tires, then he started to coughing quite a bit
the cleaner started to bother his asthma that why i'm looking for something safer. If the cleaner bother him i don't want to breath it in either.
 
goodinblack said:
Then there is always vinegar.
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OH NOOOOO! Now you've done it!!!

Vinegar? Why that's basically a solution of acetic acid in water!!!!!
Acetic acid...as you know is an example of a: carboxylic acid



Im the MAN
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java said:
The reason i ask is i let one of my friends use some citrus degreaser to clean his wheels and tires, then he started to coughing quite a bit
the cleaner started to bother his asthma that why i'm looking for something safer. If the cleaner bother him i don't want to breath it in either.
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What's the name of this citrus degreaser?


Bob
 
java said:
The reason i ask is i let one of my friends use some citrus degreaser to clean his wheels and tires, then he started to coughing quite a bit
the cleaner started to bother his asthma that why i'm looking for something safer. If the cleaner bother him i don't want to breath it in either.
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Aspiration issues are so hard to judge. For instance, some of our APCs which would be used in I&I would be without butyl (and any limonene - food regs and all that) but would give me a bit of a coughing fit and it is down to one of the surfactants in there. Another thing that always annoys me is oxalic acid when in aerosol which means you need to take caution around fallout removers of the non-bleeding variety. This latter point just highlights the chemical confusion - oxalic acid fallout removers will annoy the life out of you if you breathe in the spray but bleeding fallout removers (typically using much more dangerous ingreds at higher levels) probably won't bother you beyond the unpleasant smell!

Hard to say on the Zep product, first instinct would be the limonene, which is a known skin sensitiser. It does not cause this reaction in everyone. The other hazardous ingredients would have a more general effect rather than effecting one person and not another.
 
PiPUK said:
Aspiration issues are so hard to judge. For instance, some of our APCs which would be used in I&I would be without butyl (and any limonene - food regs and all that) but would give me a bit of a coughing fit and it is down to one of the surfactants in there. Another thing that always annoys me is oxalic acid when in aerosol which means you need to take caution around fallout removers of the non-bleeding variety. This latter point just highlights the chemical confusion - oxalic acid fallout removers will annoy the life out of you if you breathe in the spray but bleeding fallout removers (typically using much more dangerous ingreds at higher levels) probably won't bother you beyond the unpleasant smell!

Hard to say on the Zep product, first instinct would be the limonene, which is a known skin sensitiser. It does not cause this reaction in everyone. The other hazardous ingredients would have a more general effect rather than effecting one person and not another.
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The degreaser bother my friend and not me and like you said it effect one person and not the other. When he tried a bleeding wheel cleaner he get light dizzy spell but it doesn't effect me. Which apc you think is more user friendly? Thanks for the replies.
 
java said:
The degreaser bother my friend and not me and like you said it effect one person and not the other. When he tried a bleeding wheel cleaner he get light dizzy spell but it doesn't effect me. Which apc you think is more user friendly? Thanks for the replies.
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As I have demonstrated elsewhere (oops!) my knowledge of the US market is not as broad as many others (I am UK based) so I will have to leave it to someone else to answer.
 
java said:
The degreaser bother my friend and not me and like you said it effect one person and not the other.
When he tried a bleeding wheel cleaner he get light dizzy spell but it doesn't effect me.
Which apc you think is more user friendly? Thanks for the replies.
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It's best to read and follow the products' MSDS for their:
Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) recommendations.

Although everyone should always wear the proper PPE...

-A person that has certain/particular allergies, will often find that these allergies will prevent them from performing
many vehicle detailing tasks (with various "detailing-products")... without first donning the proper PPE-gear.

:)

Bob
 
PiPUK said:
As I have demonstrated elsewhere (oops!) my knowledge of the US market is not as broad as many others (I am UK based) so I will have to leave it to someone else to answer.
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Since some of the products available over in the USA is available in the UK wasn,t sure if you know anything about them. Thanks for the reply anyway.
 
FUNX725 said:
It's best to read and follow the products' MSDS for their:
Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) recommendations.

Although everyone should always wear the proper PPE...

-A person that has certain/particular allergies, will often find that these allergies will prevent them from performing
many vehicle detailing tasks (with various "detailing-products")... without first donning the proper PPE-gear.

:)

Bob
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I have gloves available to use but he feel funny with a disposable respirator on and he knows a respirator on is better than none so it's choice, and since zep bothers him and meguiars d101 doesn't he probably stick with that. Thanks for the reply
 
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