Are High End Products Worth The Money?

Hi Brian,

I have used Swissvax Mirage (I think) and didn't notice a difference in ease of use or depth over Adam's Americana (my favorite paste wax). $199 compared to $69.

I can't speak for durability because I didn't apply it on my car and I never owned the wax. This was someone simply letting me try it on their own car. (but if I wanted durability, I certainly wouldn't reach for a carnauba paste)

-Brian (good name)
 
I asked at Meguiar's if there is a difference between one of there waxes and the super expensive $3,000 wax. They said no

Hope that helps.
 
I have not spent more than $50.00 for a jar...... of anything....... and I never will.

JMHO

Now waxes aside... I want to try Opti- Coat......
 
hernandez.art13 said:
I asked at Meguiar's if there is a difference between one of there waxes and the super expensive $3,000 wax. They said no

Hope that helps.
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dont you think it kinda behooves them to say there is not a difference so they sell more product...
 
artofdetailing said:
thats not at all helpful? Why is it difficult to find somebody to comment "Hi brian, I have used (place product here) and its $200 bucks. It is definitely worth it because.... Compared to (place less expensive product here) it had better (place characteristics here)" Guys, I am not trying to be insulting of other products, I simply haven't used any really expensive products

but have noticed the growing market for them.

^^^That has been an ongoing manufacturers' marketing-moguls project for many a year now.^^^


-Brian
:hungry:
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Even if some folks consider $60-200 priced products to be high-end...
I don't believe they'd have too much negativity to say about their purchase.

With that in mind:
I really, really, REALLY don't believe there would be any negative feedback from folks
that purchase the upper strata of high-end products. (I'm referencing the $200+)

I know I wouldn't want to be duly charged as the:
"High-end products' strolling-minstrel...
that's more interested in saving face... than singing out the truth"!!

:)

Bob
 
Bkazzle said:
Hi Brian,

I have used Swissvax Mirage (I think) and didn't notice a difference in ease of use or depth over Adam's Americana (my favorite paste wax). $199 compared to $69.

I can't speak for durability because I didn't apply it on my car and I never owned the wax. This was someone simply letting me try it on their own car. (but if I wanted durability, I certainly wouldn't reach for a carnauba paste)

-Brian (good name)
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Thanks Brian! That more the type of feedback I am looking for. :xyxthumbs:
 
Honestly, it depends on what products you are looking at. I think most are worth it with the exception of the absolute crap products or insanely expensive products ($600+)
 
goodinblack said:
Well Duh........ LOL

If they made a $3K jar then they would say yes. ;)
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Dang I was swindled. Lol jk :P

All joking aside, I asked during the Meguiar's 101 class. It was a no holds bar in terms of there were other products being talked about not only Meguiar's of their pro's and con's.

The person said something along the lines of, I should be careful in promoting other brands that is not Meguiar's lol. (Not exact words btw)

Paul Dalton and his expensive wax was what I asked about.

I'll leave it at that, don't want to get to in depth into it. :)
 
Well how about Meguiar's Ultimate Wax and Menzerna Powerlock. Both are around the same price range, give or take. From my understanding they are both sealants. How would you compare them? (I have both btw)

I clayed my paint, and applied Menzerna Power lock. And contrary to so much discussion. Menzerna Power Lock has a lot of pop, depth, gloss, shine. (Choose whichever wording you prefer)

I've applied Collinite 476s in the past and it didn't come close to the gloss that Menzerna Power Lock has given my paint. That's why I am going to top it with Color lock to see a difference, if any.

I haven't corrected my paint, have 't had a chance to, with either Collinite or Menzerna only clayed my paint.

Collinite 476s is a Carnauba and PL is a sealant. So shouldn't 476s have more gloss than PL sealant?

Stay Friendly my friends

Art :)
 
ART

Collinite 467 is a synthetic with carnauba in it.

typically synthetic sealants have more of a glossy "wet" look to them

whereas carnauba based products have a richness and depth of lustre to them

its very similar to the film industry.

A movie shot on film will have a more life-like quality with a sort of glow and authenticity to the colors..... these are the qualities similar to carnauba.

However a movie shot on digital [or HD TV show] will look overly crisp, with almost too much color packed into the pixels.... these are the qualities often displayed in sealants

Which YOU PREFER, is a subjective preference.... there is no right or wrong answer.. thats why there are so many of these products on the market
 
Christopher.Brown said:
ART

Collinite 467 is a synthetic with carnauba in it.

typically synthetic sealants have more of a glossy "wet" look to them

whereas carnauba based products have a richness and depth of lustre to them

its very similar to the film industry.

A movie shot on film will have a more life-like quality with a sort of glow and authenticity to the colors..... these are the qualities similar to carnauba.

However a movie shot on digital [or HD TV show] will look overly crisp, with almost too much color packed into the pixels.... these are the qualities often displayed in sealants

Which YOU PREFER, is a subjective preference.... there is no right or wrong answer.. thats why there are so many of these products on the market
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Thanks for clearing that up Christopher :xyxthumbs:
 
Wouldn't it be fun to have a blind trial of products where the labels are removed and you get to try each one out and at the end see if your opinions about certain products are justified or not? Scary - I know. Kinda like internet dating. You chat with the girl and like her, then you meet her in person and see what she looks like!:bolt:
 
tswitz said:
Wouldn't it be fun to have a blind trial of products where the labels are removed and you get to try each one out and at the end see if your opinions about certain products are justified or not? Scary - I know. Kinda like internet dating. You chat with the girl and like her, then you meet her in person and see what she looks like!:bolt:
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This.

There has been a few posts like this on forums as well.

Bottom line...... on a properly prepared car........ really can't tell the difference. What does change is longevity.
 
I think it's excessive unless you are using it on a rare or very expensive car. When you do use it, you better be charging a lot! I'll go out on a limb and say you should be in the $100- $150 per hour range.

With those kind of prices, expectations are high.

Also, I would think those type of products would actually be less tested and used by detailers than something like D180. . .which is proven.
 
This is a great thread! I had no idea that there were products like Swissvax. Looking at their website I also had no idea that there was such a product that cost $1,500 - SWISSVAX Crystal Rock - Paul Dalton's state-of-the-art Carnauba-Glaze, 200ml

My thought is that they create such a high priced product not to actually sell - but to give the image of premium status to all their other products and set a reference price - ie you can get access to a $1,500 product for only $200. I personally like the packaging, the branding, the name and the vibe it's communicating to me. When I clean my car with this type of vibe it's saying I'm going to feel good about it.

Definitely ordering the $200 kit to see how it is.
 
jloha312 said:
This is a great thread! I had no idea that there were products like Swissvax. Looking at their website I also had no idea that there was such a product that cost $1,500 - SWISSVAX Crystal Rock - Paul Dalton's state-of-the-art Carnauba-Glaze, 200ml

My thought is that they create such a high priced product not to actually sell - but to give the image of premium status to all their other products and set a reference price - ie you can get access to a $1,500 product for only $200. I personally like the packaging, the branding, the name and the vibe it's communicating to me. When I clean my car with this type of vibe it's saying I'm going to feel good about it.

Definitely ordering the $200 kit to see how it is.
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Which kit are you ordering?
 
The official price of POLISHANGEL GOLDFINGER is CND $53,715. Any takers?
 
CG'S Maxi-Suds for under $25.00 dollars a gallon,I love the soap and does what I want it to do, clean the car and not strip my wax.
M105, 32 oz for $30.00, I don't find more expensive compounds to work better.
M205, 32oz for around $27.00. IMO its the best polish on the market.
CG'S EZ Cream Glaze, I think it's around $15.00 and it my favorite product of them all.
Griot's Paint Sealant, around $15.00 and it last for me, four months and still beading.
Meg's NXT., $22.99, great wax.
Meg's GoldClass Paste Wax, $12.00, great wax for the money.
CGs VRP for $15.00, another one of my favorite products.

So to answer your question I think one can get great results without spending a fortune.

I can afford the higher end products but see no need to waste money when I'm already getting the results I'm after.
 
Personally on my own cars I use the products that I feel make the experience better. Lots of factors go into this such as smell, ease of use, packaging, and of course the final product. So I am more interested in the products that have all of those qualities since I wax my car once a month anyway, I do not worry about durability.

Chemical Guys products meet all of my criteria and more. Sure, I hate the marketing and the hype but at the end of the day they smell great and produce a fantastic finish every time while being very easy to use. I am sure there are better products in one of the catagories but for me it is about the experience.

So find out what you like and expect from a product and match that to the product. Price for me comes second, if a product cost $1 or $1,000 it is all about what makes you happy as the consumer/detailer.
 
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