The sio2 products often goes a long way when applyied. So I think you used to much of it that caused the streaking. Then those cure also after applyied and the gloss enhance during this and reach the top after 24h.
You can test to reapply to a spot where it was streaking and wipe it off. Often it's that alike desolves alike. Do this test as soon as possible. I like to use 2 towels to apply with one and the other to remove. The application towel would not be saturated only slightly damp or you use to much of sio2 product. And you may have to use several wipe off towels so they are as effective as possible to remove the excess product.
If you find it still streaking you can test to spray the towel folded in four 2 times the sprays to prime it and then 1 spray as you move on. Look at the paint and when you see it starts to reduce the product then wipe it off. You can test to use 2 wipe off towels too and see if that works better.
If you apply another layer wait 24h so it has fully cured or even some days. Some sio2 products don't like to be layered to soon and starts to streak very fast.
Just have in mind when useing different LSP on the same paint. That you get the last applyied characterictis. So the looks of the first can be muted. So I would do a test spot with the topper you want to layer to the trunk lid for an example. Then decide from that if you are satisfied with the results.
You can test to reapply to a spot where it was streaking and wipe it off. Often it's that alike desolves alike. Do this test as soon as possible. I like to use 2 towels to apply with one and the other to remove. The application towel would not be saturated only slightly damp or you use to much of sio2 product. And you may have to use several wipe off towels so they are as effective as possible to remove the excess product.
If you find it still streaking you can test to spray the towel folded in four 2 times the sprays to prime it and then 1 spray as you move on. Look at the paint and when you see it starts to reduce the product then wipe it off. You can test to use 2 wipe off towels too and see if that works better.
If you apply another layer wait 24h so it has fully cured or even some days. Some sio2 products don't like to be layered to soon and starts to streak very fast.
Just have in mind when useing different LSP on the same paint. That you get the last applyied characterictis. So the looks of the first can be muted. So I would do a test spot with the topper you want to layer to the trunk lid for an example. Then decide from that if you are satisfied with the results.
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I find streaking of SIO2 products come from three reasons: 1. Over application. 2. Wax or sealant as a base coat. 3. Application in the Sun/hot surface. If you can avoid these three events your SIO2 product will likely work the way the manufacturer intended.
Marc Hufnagel
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Thank you for the tip about dampening the mf cloth. Makes things much easier!
LarryS
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I think it likely that I used too much. I'm going to reapply today using less. Thinking about giving the car final buff with my orbital but I'm unsure about what pad to use and at what speed. If anyone wild like to chime in with advice it would be most welcome.
LarryS
Don't use the orbital, just put it on and take it off the proper way. A typical car door should be one spritz. Possibly Max 2.We all grew up putting on wax to where we had to see it go on, polymers and Si02 products, almost flash as soon as they get on the paint, and are clear, so you can't tell easily what you're doing, you just have to remember where you applied it. That's why A wipe "up down side to side" is recommended, And not circular motions.
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Mike,
how will this do as a drying aid? im always looking for a new drying aid thats good in the sun.
how will this do as a drying aid? im always looking for a new drying aid thats good in the sun.
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Is there any reason this product cannot be used on my fiberglass boat.
After careful paint prep (wash, claybar, machine polish), I applied Blackfire SiO2 spray sealant to my Macan GTS. It looks great and I'm very happy with the result. I'm wondering how this type of application (a spray ceramic) will hold up compared to the traditional application methods (chamois sponge) for ceramic coatings. Has this stuff been around long enough for anyone to know?
It was very easy to apply and buff off, unlike the other ceramic coatings I've read about, which have somewhat intimidating application methods. I am always worried about possibly screwing up the application leaving a hard to remove uneven finish. One of these days i'll try one, as I'd like a finish that is good for a year or two, as opposed to 3-4 or even six months.
Anyway, my car's finish looks great and is smooth as can be! Makes me smile. Just wondering about durability. Anyone? Mike?
It was very easy to apply and buff off, unlike the other ceramic coatings I've read about, which have somewhat intimidating application methods. I am always worried about possibly screwing up the application leaving a hard to remove uneven finish. One of these days i'll try one, as I'd like a finish that is good for a year or two, as opposed to 3-4 or even six months.
Anyway, my car's finish looks great and is smooth as can be! Makes me smile. Just wondering about durability. Anyone? Mike?
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Completely agree with this! Potentially very dangerous to your lung health.
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Mike Phillips
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Just to note for those reading this into the future that might not know, Essence is a machine applied polish, thus the build up on a pad that would become a dry powder when brushed off the pad with a brush.
BLACKFIRE SiO2 is a spray-on liquid, that does NOT dust and therefore is completely different in application method and characteristics than Essence.
If you go back and look at my pictures you can see it's a liquid, that is sprayed onto a surface, spread around and then wiped-off. After you finish the car, wash the microfiber towels, don't chew on them.
While I'm all for safety, me thinks this is much to do about nothing. Use common sense using any product and if you're uber conserved, then simply don't use the product or wear some form of personal protection.
Maybe if you take the spray nozzle and spray this or any similar product up your nose. :dunno:
Don't start scare mongering where it's not applicable.
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John U
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My Blackfire Si02 from the "Geek" arrived. Today I applied it to my Zaino'd minivan using a microfiber grout polishing sponge. Worked slick covering a large area with minimal product waste. I got mine from Home Depot.
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Hi Mike,
I am thinking of getting BF paint cleaner and BF sio2 spray sealant, as i gotten a sample of BF one step and i liked it so much.
I am thinking of:
- quarterly (i.e. every 3 months) apply paint cleaner by hand
- monthly apply sio2 spray sealant by hand
My questions are:
- may i use the paint cleaner on glass and trim? By trim, i mean the black stuff found on window edges and wiper cowls. If the answer is no, would the paint cleaner stain the glass and trims white if i accidentally put some on them?
- may i apply the sio2 spray sealant on the same glass and trims i was referring to?
- when applying paint cleaner by hand, should i put some passion behind the pad? Or gently massaging it into the paint would work? And should i work it in until it dries?
- since the paint cleaner has glaze on it, should i wait for it to haze before wiping it off?
- after applying sio2 spray sealant, should i immediately wipe off? Or wait for it to haze?
Thanks in advance.
Sorry for the questions. BF is an expensive line and i would like to gather as much info as i can to enable me to arrive at a smart decision.
I am thinking of getting BF paint cleaner and BF sio2 spray sealant, as i gotten a sample of BF one step and i liked it so much.
I am thinking of:
- quarterly (i.e. every 3 months) apply paint cleaner by hand
- monthly apply sio2 spray sealant by hand
My questions are:
- may i use the paint cleaner on glass and trim? By trim, i mean the black stuff found on window edges and wiper cowls. If the answer is no, would the paint cleaner stain the glass and trims white if i accidentally put some on them?
- may i apply the sio2 spray sealant on the same glass and trims i was referring to?
- when applying paint cleaner by hand, should i put some passion behind the pad? Or gently massaging it into the paint would work? And should i work it in until it dries?
- since the paint cleaner has glaze on it, should i wait for it to haze before wiping it off?
- after applying sio2 spray sealant, should i immediately wipe off? Or wait for it to haze?
Thanks in advance.
Sorry for the questions. BF is an expensive line and i would like to gather as much info as i can to enable me to arrive at a smart decision.
I use the same type of sponge (MF covered) when applying a rain repellant on glass. Smooth even coverage.
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Mike Phillips
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I don't use paint cleaners as I choose to use a fine cut polish instead. A fine cut polish will do EVERYTHING a paint cleaner will do plus remove fine paint defects. So for all the time, energy and work it takes to "apply and wipe off something", I might as well get the best bang for my time, energy and money.
But to answer your questions, I would not rub down any type of plastic, rubber or vinyl with any paint cleaner. It might work and it might stain. You can always test and see.
Yes.
No passion or elbow grease. You must have read my article somewhere on putting some passion behind the pad.
How to use a hand applied abrasive polish or paint cleaner by hand
But NO - paint cleaners are non-abrasive and rubbing them hard will only mar the paint. Mar is the kind fluffy name for scratch. If you want to use a paint cleaner, here's an article I wrote YEARS ago on how to apply a paint cleaner following the directions on the label of the bottle. In most cases, I'm NOT a straight-line guy....
How to clay, clean and wax paint by hand with Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion and Pinnacle Signature Series II Carnauba Paste Wax
The benefits of a light paint cleaner, cleansing lotion or pre-wax cleaner
I forget what the BF PC says but a good rule of thumb is to read and follow the directions. With compounds and polishes you DON'T let them dry as there is no benefit. With paint cleaners? Read the directions and see what they say.
Simply wipe the thin film off. See my how-to steps in the first post that created this thread.
BLACKFIRE SiO2 Spray Sealant review by Mike Phillips
Lots of pictures too....
No problem.... you ask great questions that I am confident others will find helpful in the future. This thread will be read thousands of times and will be easily found via Google and simply by existing on this forum. None of these things can be said if this were posted to a Facebook group.
