Can someone explain the difference in this vs bf hydroseal? Or the bf hydroseal concentrate?
Actually, let's go 1 step further, how about bf coating booster?
I'm looking for an si02 regimen for my toy hauler. But it seems as all the house brands have a slew of overlapping products.
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Actually, let's go 1 step further, how about bf coating booster?
I'm looking for an si02 regimen for my toy hauler. But it seems as all the house brands have a slew of overlapping products.
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BF HydroSeal is Spray on/rinse off after a car wash/rinse and before drying). BF SiO2 Spray a more traditional spray on, wipe off spray “wax”. BF Coating Booster does seem a bit redundant to SiO2 Spray, but is less substantial and not really strong enough to be used standalone in my opinion. Consider it a watered down, less polymer’d version of BF SiO2 Spray. It’s OK when only topping coated surfaces though.
So what the difference in the 32oz hydroseal and the hydroseal concentrate. I mix myself and end up with more product for a lower cost?
Hydroseal is the strongest of the bunch? My dad and I both have 43ft 5th wheel's and boy it's a chore with that collinite.
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One product is pre-mixed or RTU, which means Ready To Use - some people LIKE this option.
The other product is a concentrate - you need to dilute it according to directions.
Yes.
I would STRONGLY urge everyone to dilute this product correctly. Then ONLY spray to one panel at a time and THEN IMMEDIATLY BLAST IT OFF.
I don't know how the chemistry for these types of product work but they seem to start bonding to the paint immediately, even when the paint is wet.
If you get too much on or don't blast what you so spray on off it can leave too much on the surface. I've been told this can also happen if the panel is hot. Thus all of these tips are actually in the directions.
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Blackfire SiO2 Spray Sealant - This is a stand-alone SiO2 "Silica" Spray Sealant. If you want to use it as a stand-alone sealant I would recommend prepping the paint surface first, so it can bond properly to the paint surface. This should be applied to a clean, dry, cool to the touch paint surface. It can also be used to maintain the hydrophobic properties and add slickness to ceramic coatings. A lot of ceramic coatings have a "Rubbery" feeling to them and most customers want the "Slick" feeling. This SiO2 Spray Sealant is extremely slick an a little goes a long way.
32oz Bottle - Retail $47.99
Blackfire HydroSeal - This is a "Ready-To-Use" SiO2 Sealant that gets applied to a wet surface. After you're done washing your vehicle, simply wet the surface and spray the HydroSeal and immediately rinse the surface with a strong jet of water. Start at the top of your vehicle and work your way around the vehicle working on one panel at a time. Make sure the surface is cool to the touch and work in a shaded area. IMO this product is perfect for large Trucks, SUV's, RV's and Trailers.
32oz. Bottle - Retail $45.99
Blackfire HydroSeal Concentrate - This is the same product as HydroSeal, but in a concentrate version. Perfect for professional detailers and offers a better price point. Your average consumer likes "RTU" products, but a lot of detailers prefer concentrates. The 1:7 dilution ratio will produce 32oz. of "RTU" product with the small 4oz. bottle.
4oz. - Retail $21.99
8oz. - Retail $34.99
Blackfire Coating Booster - This is simply a "Booster" maintenance product for any ceramic, quartz, or resin-based coating. This product will add slickness and shine, as well as hydrophobic properties. It's not as durable as the SiO2 Spray Sealant.
32oz. Bottle - Retail $29.99
So in your professional opinion. Hydroseal concentrate is the best option to go fornin terms of length of protection and ease of use in the rv situation?
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Yes, It's extremely easy to work with on an RV especially when using a pressure washer. You just want to start at the top and work your way down and around working on one panel at a time. Make sure the surface is cool to the touch and avoid working in direct sunlight.
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Is this product ok to use on the headlights/taillights?
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I've used it on every exterior part with no issues
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Just put another coat on the ZR2 today. It does pack a glassy look!
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Yes, I've been using it on my Headlights & Taillights. Great product!
Great thread. Read it all.
I have 3 available "paint prep" options. Mother's 1, Mother's #2 or Blackfire AIO. Would any of these be appropriate to use before trying the Blackfire SiO2 spray?
Coming into winter, so great time to compare the Blackfire SiO2 on the Stelvio to Blackfire AIO/Collinite 845 on the RRS. Want to see how each surface cleans off after a 750 mile winter trip through all the nastiness. To me, all these finishes look great when fresh. I want to see how they recvover from real world abuse!!
I have 3 available "paint prep" options. Mother's 1, Mother's #2 or Blackfire AIO. Would any of these be appropriate to use before trying the Blackfire SiO2 spray?
Coming into winter, so great time to compare the Blackfire SiO2 on the Stelvio to Blackfire AIO/Collinite 845 on the RRS. Want to see how each surface cleans off after a 750 mile winter trip through all the nastiness. To me, all these finishes look great when fresh. I want to see how they recvover from real world abuse!!
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Had to re-edumucate myself on what these product are by reading their descriptions here,
Mothers Ultimate Wax System includes Mothers California Gold Carnauba Waxes, Sealer Glaze & Mothers Pre-Wax Cleaner.
The #1 is a non-abrasive paint cleaner, the #2 is a non-abrasive polish.
Both will work.
The BF One Step will do what both of the above will do plus remove swirls, scratches, water spots and oxidation plus leave the surface protected.
Yes the AIO will replace the 1&2 in the future. Was VERY impressed with it on the Range Rover.
Sounds like I should not use the Blackfire AIO prior to Blackfire Si02 sealant because it has a protection layer? I am entering 2020 with decreasing reluctance!
Halve a half bottle of 1&2 left, so want to know about the AIO when they are goneView attachment 68340
BTW, for years the #2 was swirl remover/glaze. Did a great job removing the semi annual carwash/life marks from 6 months
Sounds like I should not use the Blackfire AIO prior to Blackfire Si02 sealant because it has a protection layer? I am entering 2020 with decreasing reluctance!
Halve a half bottle of 1&2 left, so want to know about the AIO when they are goneView attachment 68340
BTW, for years the #2 was swirl remover/glaze. Did a great job removing the semi annual carwash/life marks from 6 months
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You can use BF AIO prior to BF SiO2 Sealant Spray. The spray is fine going on top of other sealants, especially BF sealants (I’m sure they share similar polymers). But if you want to see the spray on it’s own vs. BF AIO/845 then use the Mothers stuff. If you want to compare BF SiO2 Spray vs 845 as toppers, I would go with BF AIO.
My opinion regardless is that BF AIO topped with BF SiO2 Spray will be a nice combo.
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For what it's worth I many times remove my polishing residue with a spray sealant. This saves me time and adds extra protection. I normally do this with PNS or IG premier
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