Can you Believe this is a Hyundai

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The new wheels looks awesome!

/ Tony
 
Asian Petrolhead is a cool, unique YouTuber! He's about to review the upcoming Genesis G80 or 90....the rims alone are a winner.

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Looking forward to some seat time in a Veloster N this Monday courtesy TNcoupe

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Granted it's only a digital rendering, but that car is seriously cool looking.

I'd love to see Hyundai run a prototype-class car like this in the WEC or a DPi in the IMSA Weathertech Championship. That would give them some serious performance credibility if they could pull it off and be competitive. A GT3 car would be easier, but since they don't sell any cars which would qualify, a prototype would be the best way to go and it would be an R&D platform for the entire brand.
 
TNcoupe has a new mod to his N
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Granted it's only a digital rendering, but that car is seriously cool looking.

I'd love to see Hyundai run a prototype-class car like this in the WEC or a DPi in the IMSA Weathertech Championship. That would give them some serious performance credibility if they could pull it off and be competitive. A GT3 car would be easier, but since they don't sell any cars which would qualify, a prototype would be the best way to go and it would be an R&D platform for the entire brand.

IMO, this is just the beginning. Hyundai/Kia are ahead of the game (and pushing the envelope) with electric/hybrid vehicles (seems to be the future). IIRC, LG and/or Samsung help Hyundai/Kia with their infotainment along with some other aspects of the vehicles. many South Korean companies work hand in hand and help each other out. the skies the limit with these brands, especially considering how much money they have and can spend on R&D. even the video below is over four years old (presently, i'm sure things have changed even more), it gives you an idea how HUGE Samsung is...

btw, can't wait to see what Tyrone Johnson (ex-chief of Ford RS performance division / 33 years) brings the to the table since he is filling some big shoes in replacement of Albert Beirmann (promoted to head R&D). exciting times for sure!

 
While I wouldn't argue Hyundai/Kia/Genesis isn't making huge improvements in their products and seeing growth, I think they are still lacking the racing presence needed to make them a household name among enthusiasts. Racing would fix that.

Right now they only have a factory i20 running in the WRC and privateer's running i30's and Veloster N's in TCR-class racing. The WRC is really a European thing (cant even get it on TV in the US) and TCR is an entry level spec of racing below GT4. Right now they don't have a car they could run in a GT3/GTD/GTE-AM or higher, which would make a prototype program (privateer or factory) calling on some of the industrial might you mention an easy fit. Depending on the class of prototype, they could run in race series globally.

We've been hearing of people with serious design and performance chops being poached from other automakers all over the place, but we don't see much for it. The G70 and Stinger turned out well, the Veloster N and i30 N seem to be quite good, but not much else. They continue to churn out SUV's and "normal" cars and I fear the Korean car culture which doesn't really have any preference towards racing or performance cars may be holding them back. I fear they will get to making normal cars which drive great, but never take the leap to fun cars that are true performance leaders.
 
Rumor is a G70 coupe is coming. It would fit in a GT3 class most likely.

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Rumor is a G70 coupe is coming. It would fit in a GT3 class most likely.

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That would be a great fit. They could run it in IMSA's GTD class too like Lexus does with their RC-F. It's fun watching those cars mix it up with Lambo's, 911's, AMG GT's, and NSX's. If they are smart about it (hey, we're dreaming!), they would go about it like Aston Martin did and design the car such that it can be used in both GT3 and GTD/GTE-AM with simple bolt-on changes. Those cars are sold to teams globally. I think a couple teams have even moved between classes with the same car!
 
That would be a great fit. They could run it in IMSA's GTD class too like Lexus does with their RC-F. It's fun watching those cars mix it up with Lambo's, 911's, AMG GT's, and NSX's. If they are smart about it (hey, we're dreaming!), they would go about it like Aston Martin did and design the car such that it can be used in both GT3 and GTD/GTE-AM with simple bolt-on changes. Those cars are sold to teams globally. I think a couple teams have even moved between classes with the same car!
Its just a rumor right now but lets hope it happens. Maybe I'll get to see it at Rolex 24 in a couple years.

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never say never, you just never know...
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I've never been too excited about the initial quality surveys. They just measure the number of defects owners found in the first 90 days of ownership. Granted there shouldn't be any issues when it rolls out of the factory, but I am much more interested in the long term reliability. Not that I doubt Hyndai and Kia won't do well over the long haul.

I find it funny Ford is listed so high. This summer, while car shopping I was looking at Mustang GT's. At my local dealership I looked at two or three GT's and a Bullit and EVERY car had external body pannels which were not put on straight/correctly. The Bullit was really bad. I remember not a single pannel being straight and a couple were so bad they were causing the adjacent piece to be mishapen. The reports of all the issues of the new Explorers coming out of the Chicago plant having to be shipped to Michigan for repairs prior to being sold isn't encouraging either.
 
Savagegeese said as much about the Mustang's quality issues, then there's your observations and the reports are in about the Exploders issues, absolutely pathetic that people given so much as far as pay and insurance can't do a better job but it's been par for the course for decades

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My 2015 Mustang GT panel alignment was spot on. The paint bubbling at the leading edge of the hood wasnt optimal but its gone now so no more Ford worries from me.

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How is the internal material quality in your new Veloster? I've driven quite a few different Hyundai and Kia cars models as rentals, and while they were put together well some of the materials like the cloth on the seats and some of the plastics made me wonder whether they would hold up over a long haul of daily use.

I'll also add the infotainment in the KIA's was by far my favorite of any car I've ever driven. Great layout and the way it incorporated Android Auto was fantastic.
 
Its fine to me. The dash and door panels are hard plastic but thats all in the thought of saving weight. Very little sound deadening and the carpet is thin but interior comforts are not my thing. I need a good seat to hold me in, steering wheel with nice thumb bolsters, pedals close enough to heel toe, and the shifter to be in a nice natural shift position. I dont need fancy stereos, heated or cooled seats, and I damn sure dont need my car to talk to me.

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