Can't Get Rid Of Brown Tires!

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Whiplash Willy

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For some reason, I always seem to get brown tires, and once they turn brown, I can never make them black again. I don't really care about shiny showroom glossy tires, I just want them black.

After trying several products, I decided to go all out and gut the Wolfgang Tire and Wheel Cleaner. I also bought a stiff tire brush.

Here is what I did:

Rinsed loose dirt from tires, applied product, let it sit for about 1 min, scrubbed the sidewall with the brush, let sit another minute, and thoroughly rinsed.

The end result was actually worse then what it looked like before! The dark brown turned into a light brown/greyish color, with scratches all over it.

Here is a pic:
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Am I doing something wrong? Am I cursed to live with brown tires for all eternity?!? I got the Wolfgang, because I thought it was the best, but I am starting to wounder if there is something better out there.

BTW the tires are about 4 months old, and I have been cleaning them weekly, first with Bleach White, then with Eagle Wheel and Tire Cleaner, when I ran out of Bleach White. Used the Green Bristle wheel/tire brush on this site.
 
Do you ever apply a tire gel?

The brown stuff is natural, I forget the term but it's been posted about many times. Clean the tire to the best of your ability, dry the tires and apply a product like Opti-bond, which isn't too glossy and I think you will like.
 
Whiplash Willy said:
Am I doing something wrong? Am I cursed to live with brown tires for all eternity?!?
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When tires no longer turn brown (the blooming effect)....Then it's probably getting close to the time to get rid of them (the tires).

I suggest:

-Thoroughly clean your tires/wheels with P21S' Wheel Cleaner or P21S TAW; S100 Wheel Cleaner; or any citrus-based cleaner (d-limonene).
-Thoroughly dry the wheels/tires
-Apply a tire dressing that is milky-like in appearance: Lexol's Vinylex, 303 AP, etc.

Tire dressings must be renewed/re-applied often. Each time you wash your vehicle...include the tires in that wash regimen, with a tire dressing "re-dress" each time, if so desired.

Even this strict tire cleaning/dressing routine may not totally disallow the tire manufacturer's inherent, built-in, on purpose, protective tire compounds' formulation from coming to the outer tire surfaces (blooming/browning) upon each revolution the tire undergoes.

Note:
Some tire 'brands' will just be: More "blooming-brown" than others.


:)

Bob
 
I have had great luck using Amazing Roll Off to get rid of the brown on my tires.

Then I use a good protectant. My current favorite is Wolfgang Tire gel.
 
Blooming is happens to some tires not all. Wolfgangs cleaners are very mild. Pick up some westly bleche white otc and that'll remove it.
 
Try Griots rubber cleaner followed by Griots vinyl and rubber dressing. use both products with every wash. My tires never look brown if I am using this regimen. The Gritos will not give a high gloss. More of a new tire low gloss look.
 
I too use ARO when tires get too brown or dirty looking. The bloom is inherent with tires and a good cleaning and dressing works wonders.

Currently I'm kind of partial to PERL but tire dressings are one of those things where I use whatever I have and dull down or amp up the finish by reapplying or wiping down after depending on the dressing. I have several laying around.

I also use ARO on my jet skis as they are in and out of the water constnatly for 8 months out of the year, salt and fresh water. Works great with a long handled brush.
 
+1 Amazing Roll off

and

+1 "tire dressing that is milky-like in appearance". Avoid clear tire spray like Megs Hot Tires or whatever its called, IMO. My favorite is DP Gloss Tire Gel.
 
try some APC. I have never run into a tire I could not clean with some sort of APC.
 
Wash them once with amazing roll off and a tire brush and rinse. Then wash them again with ARO and an old crappy mf towel. Trust me, the towel is going to make the difference in your situation. While rinsing the tire with water flowing over it wipe the tire once more.

Then apply the tire dressing of your choice.
 
You mention Bleach White. Did you mean Westleys Bleche White ? If so then as per the instructions do not wet tire before the first application. Let dwell for 4-5 mins and the agitate with a stiff tire brush. A second application is sometimes needed. In over 40 yrs I have never had a problem with this product. I also have Optimum and Meg's APC+ but for the tough one I always end up with WBW. Works great on rubber mats also.
 
2old2change said:
You mention Bleach White. Did you mean Westleys Bleche White ? If so then as per the instructions do not wet tire before the first application. Let dwell for 4-5 mins and the agitate with a stiff tire brush. A second application is sometimes needed. In over 40 yrs I have never had a problem with this product. I also have Optimum and Meg's APC+ but for the tough one I always end up with WBW. Works great on rubber mats also.
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:iagree: Just don't breathe the overspray in as it is pretty nasty.
 
Thank you for all of the tips guys! I would rather not to have to use a dressing each time I wash my wheels/tires. I already spend alot of time every week cleaning my car... I really just want to get rid of the browness, but if I have to use dressing, I will.

I will have to check out ARO, and APC. Which brand of APC is good, Meguiars?

So if I understand correctly, both ARO and APC need to be diluted, but ARO has to be diluted before each application because it is water activated? Are both safe on clearcoat wheels? (In case there is overspray)

I used to have westleys bleach white, but I think I mistakenly applied it to a wet tire. I just picked up more bleach white, but it is by black magic. I figured it was just bought out by black magic, but maybe it is just an imitation?

I am amazed that everybody's tires aren't brown, since the average person just runs their car through the car wash. My wife only runs her car through the car wash 1x/month and somehow manages to have black tires...
 
Whiplash Willy said:
Thank you for all of the tips guys! I would rather not to have to use a dressing each time I wash my wheels/tires. I already spend alot of time every week cleaning my car... I really just want to get rid of the browness, but if I have to use dressing, I will.

I will have to check out ARO, and APC. Which brand of APC is good, Meguiars?

So if I understand correctly, both ARO and APC need to be diluted, but ARO has to be diluted before each application because it is water activated? Are both safe on clearcoat wheels? (In case there is overspray)

I used to have westleys bleach white, but I think I mistakenly applied it to a wet tire. I just picked up more bleach white, but it is by black magic. I figured it was just bought out by black magic, but maybe it is just an imitation?

I am amazed that everybody's tires aren't brown, since the average person just runs their car through the car wash. My wife only runs her car through the car wash 1x/month and somehow manages to have black tires...
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The real Bleche-White is manufactured by Blue Coral out of Cve Oh. Rubber gloves and eye protection is advised on the label as it is with most APC's. I tried Black Magic version and returned to Westley's . My favorite apc at one time was Meguiars APC+ but since I have tried Optimum Power Clean the Meguiars is gathering dust on the shelf. Power Clean is great diluted on interior and exterior applications. I have tried to narrow my product list down as much as possible but my Westley's and Optimum are in my arsenal to stay.
 
Flash Gordon said:
Whiplash Willy is an awesome user name :)
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Thanks! It is a lyric from Underworld - Dirty Epic, that I started using long ago...

ARO seems like it might be a PITA to have to dilute every time, I am trying to cut down my steps in my weekly car wash! I think I will try Optimum Power Clean or Meguairs APC, and possibly some Westleys.

If I have to use a tire brush, is it better to use a hard or medium bristle brush?

Here are the brushes I have:

Short Handle Tire/Wheel Brush

Short Handle Tire/Wheel Brush

Deluxe Contour Tire Brush

Deluxe Contour Tire Brush

I used the Delux contour tire brush with the Wolfgangs...and it was difficult to scrub with, and didn't work well. I wish i wouldn't have spent the $20 on the Wolfgangs, but I guess I can just use it for wheels, so it isn't a complete waste.
 
Whiplash Willy said:
ARO seems like it might be a PITA to have to dilute every time, I am trying to cut down my steps in my weekly car wash!
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Huh? Dilute it every time? The directions say to wet the tires then spray on the ARO...not sure how that is different than most other tire cleaners.

Whiplash Willy said:
I wish i wouldn't have spent the $20 on the Wolfgangs, but I guess I can just use it for wheels, so it isn't a complete waste.
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It may be that you have to use it multiple times...I remember one time I had a bad browning problem (probably from the dressing I was using) and I had to scrub the tires about 6 times.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Huh? Dilute it every time? The directions say to wet the tires then spray on the ARO...not sure how that is different than most other tire cleaners.

It may be that you have to use it multiple times...I remember one time I had a bad browning problem (probably from the dressing I was using) and I had to scrub the tires about 6 times.
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I read a review on these forums that said you should dilute it to 4:1 for tough jobs and 10:1 for normal use. Also, on their website, they say that you should dilute it if it is being used on painted surfaces. I know I would be just using it on tires, but I would worry about getting it on the body or painted wheels....

Since it is water activated, diluting it and letting it sit for 1 week + would decrease it's effectiveness right?

Yea, maybe I need to try several applications...
 
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