Collonite 480 what was going on?

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Wadey

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I'm a cyclist and I've heard it said that all cyclists are amateur metallurgists. For some reason, I'm guessing that all car detailers are amateur chemists ;-) — so here's my question…

I'm new at all of this and used Collinite products for the first time this weekend on silver 2013 Toyota. Great experience with 845.

In my attempt to select compatible products, I ordered 480 (pre-wax cleaner from AutoGeek). I learned, after use, that I missed AG's warning not to use with clear coats. That said, Collinite's website and product label says it is for use on lighter clear coats (silver, white) — which I DID read prior to use.

I've found threads here that hypothesize about 480 causing flaws that are less noticeable in CCs over lighter colors. I honestly did not notice any scratching, but something didn't seem quite right …

What I experienced was areas where the 480 was difficult to remove. I either had to work harder or use a little spray detailer. The finished product (post 845) does look great, but I remain curious as to what was actually happening.

I've been in touch with Collinite. They assured me that I haven't caused any damage (which I honestly was concerned about :cry: ), but recommended discontinuing use.

Does anyone know what actually happened when I applied this? Feed back please Thanks.
 
Thought I should clarify that when I say "difficult to remove," I mean you could still see a haze — like residual wax.

There were panels where I never experienced any of this and it came off fine.
 
I would advise against using it on clear coats. I would try it on my boat though to see how it compares to the 920! ;)

I have never used the 840, I assume you mean 840, not 480, but have quite a bit of experience with quite a few others in Collinite's arsenal. (845, 476, 850, 920 and 925) Any time I have haze like that, I applied it too thick, which is easy to do on lighter colors.

In any case, I just wipe off what I can. If there is residual wax or looks like it, I just put on another thin layer and wipe off immediately, without allowing it to haze. Seems to work for me. Good luck.
 
It's so easy and apparently natural, because we've all done it, to apply too much product and that's what happened here.

Waxes fall into the category where more is not better....:laughing:

If you still find there's a slight haze, let the product warm up a bit by parking it in the sun then buff with a clean microfiber towel and you should be all set...:props:
 
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