DIY Full Flow brass garden hose shut-off valve

tuscarora dave said:
What's the inner diameter coming through the spigot you hook your hose up to? Did you install one of these in that location too?
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For a typical house, if you have a water shut off to the house, it is a 3/4-in spigot. The exterior spigots are 99.99 % of the time 1/2-inch.
 
Bunky said:
The exterior spigots are 99.99 % of the time 1/2-inch.
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Taking that 1/2" exterior hose bib flow-restriction into consideration:
I wonder why so many folks insist on their garden hoses having either a 5/8" or a 3/4" I.D.

Bob
 
The extra size of hose,quick connect, etc help with the peak pressure at start. i think? I wash the car the other day maybe it just my mind, but the pressure sounds smoother.

My is an electric green work pressure washer so it not a high flow.

The quick connect r very strong and feel like a better design.
 
ferret1980 said:
The extra size of hose,quick connect, etc help with the peak pressure at start. i think?
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And after that initial: Whoa!; or Wowsie!...
Shouldn't it stabilize to the "system's" pressure?

The installation of a pressure gauge immediately after the outside hose bib's opening, will tell-the-tale, IMO.

Bob

Note:
I really like this DIY project!!
Can't wait to do mine this way.
 
cshamilton said:
Two words: "MORE POWER!!!!!!"
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So...
You're saying a 5/8" I.D. garden hose would have, and would sustain: More Power,
than a 1/2" I.D. garden hose would...when they would be attached (of course on separate occasions)
to the exterior 1/2" I.D. hose bib...Correct?

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
So...
You're saying a 5/8" I.D. garden hose would have, and would sustain: More Power,
than a 1/2" I.D. garden hose would...when they would be attached (of course on separate occasions)
to the exterior 1/2" I.D. hose bib...Correct?

Bob
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No sorry I was totally just saying that we as a culture have been conditioned to buy things that give us more power. Like Tim the tool man Taylor. In that video he talks about how big the bar of the chainsaw Is which doesn't really relate to more power, but it sure sounded good.

I was saying that's why folks insist on 3/4
 
cshamilton said:
No sorry I was totally just saying that we as a culture have been conditioned to buy things that give us more power.
Like Tim the tool man Taylor. In that video he talks about how big the bar of the chainsaw Is which doesn't really relate to more power, but it sure sounded good.

I was saying that's why folks insist on 3/4
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Man the Eley disconnect are pricey!! Plus their shipping = Empty wallet.
However it looks like a quality product.
 
Did this today thanks for the idea. Also bought a high flow y for at the faucet. Cant get by without that personally.

Also wrapped the valve in electrical tape to cover most of the metal and sharp edges. Ill see how that holds up.
 
I also bought all the pieces for my shutoff valve today.

Strangely my old dramm unit started leaking after getting this new valve on lol
 
dfoxengr said:
Did this today thanks for the idea. Also bought a high flow y for at the faucet. Cant get by without that personally.

Also wrapped the valve in electrical tape to cover most of the metal and sharp edges. Ill see how that holds up.
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Probably wont; try plasti-dip
 
FUNX725 said:
Taking that 1/2" exterior hose bib flow-restriction into consideration:
I wonder why so many folks insist on their garden hoses having either a 5/8" or a 3/4" I.D.

Bob
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I can't speak to why folks buy a particular size, but this chart of PSI loss versus hose size shows a disproportionate amount of frictional loss for 1/2" vs 3/4" (and other size) hose:
Hose Friction Loss Chart | Dultmeier Sales

and this companion chart:
http://www.dultmeier.com/pdfs/tech-library/02Water8.pdf
 
SR99 said:
I can't speak to why folks buy a particular size, but this chart of PSI loss versus hose size shows a disproportionate amount of frictional loss for 1/2" vs 3/4" (and other size) hose:
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This was my point. The problem is usually the water supply line to the spigot. It is usually 1/2-in and yes a 100 ft hose will add more drop. And elbows in supply lines, curled hoses, etc. all affect flow/pressure. The water shut-off (3/4-in vs 1/2-in is much less of an impact. Lesson: use as short of a hose as possible.
 
Bunky said:
This was my point. The problem is usually the water supply line to the spigot. It is usually 1/2-in and yes a 100 ft hose will add more drop. And elbows in supply lines, curled hoses, etc. all affect flow/pressure. The water shut-off (3/4-in vs 1/2-in is much less of an impact. Lesson: use as short of a hose as possible.
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My dad had a defective Pressure washer from Generac and the first question they asked him when he called to warranty it, "how long was the hose"

He answered and they replaced the PW for him, but he asked what did that mean... she said if it was more than 50' (i think, maybe 75 but you get the idea) he could not have gotten a replacement.

Point of the story is, she didn't ask how large of a diameter it was; just how long.
 
Huh, yeah I didn't think about the lines going to the spigot. I also noticed at the hardware store yesterday that some of the spigots are restrictive. Well, crap, I dunno. If you like the idea, build it. If not, don't.
 
regardless if this build increases the pressure or not.
I think it is much beefier than the dramm shut off unit.
And something you can piece together locally.
As lowes and home depot sell the crappy version of shut off valve.
 
At this point for those of us who did the DIY shut off valve I think it's more of an OCD + Pride thing to replace the rest of the components, just so we can be sleep easier and be happy that everything from the spigot to the nozzle is the same diameter. haha

I got a chance to use my new setup this weekend and with the same nozzle as I had before, I noticed a stronger stream of water coming out than previously. It wasn't much, but it was definitely noticeable, with a little bit of kick-back when you turn it on.

My next step will be to replace my leader hose to a 3/4" piece and see if there is a hose reel with a 3/4" connector & internal plumbing.

My current hose is already a 3/4" diameter but I believe it's a 50 foot length. I may go with a 25 foot version to shorten it.
 
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