Don't like rinseless wash.

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Just finally tried my black fire rinseless wash and it put a bunch of fine scratches in my car. I ended up going through and polishing the car over. Luckly they came out pretty easy. I did just what the bottle said to do. My car just had a light dusting of salt and dirt. THe touchless car washes put less scratches in my car.
 
I've never been a fan off rinseless washes. I'll only do a traditional wash, nothing else...
 
What was your process like? Did u use wash mitt or microfibers?


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I know it's late info. But when using a rinseless wash I use the Gary dean method. I spray the crap out of each panel with waterless wash and proceed with the dean method. Soak 10 mf in 2-3 gallons of rinseless mix. Use a new soaked mf per panel. Have lots of mf's on hand and your good to go.
 
I agree. I know it's a popular method but I don't think it's much less work than a full wash.
 
I agree. I know it's a popular method but I don't think it's much less work than a full wash.

You are spot on! Regular wash is probably less work. I think dean method is great for freezing cold days etc.
 
I've also sort of experienced that with ONR (super soft subie paint). I noticed the first few times it took me FOREVER to complete a full rinseless wash. Then I realized I shouldn't be drying panel by panel and started to wash half the car then dry it before doing the other half. Definitely made it faster. However, I still do like warm weather a traditional washes more :).

For the guys using the Garry Dean method, what towels do you use?
 
I've also sort of experienced that with ONR (super soft subie paint). I noticed the first few times it took me FOREVER to complete a full rinseless wash. Then I realized I shouldn't be drying panel by panel and started to wash half the car then dry it before doing the other half. Definitely made it faster. However, I still do like warm weather a traditional washes more :).

For the guys using the Garry Dean method, what towels do you use?

I mix it up. I have some decent towels from advanced auto and if not super dirty gold jr's I use a two sided short and long nap to dry and for heavy soaked panel guzzlers .
 
I don't do any waterless or rinse-less washes unless the car is foamed and pressure washed first. Also, I clean the wheels and tires first conventionally. I'm not trying to save water, but it does save some time. If you do this & lube the panel with waterless wash before touching it, it's not much different than a regular wash. You wont get scratches, but you wont save as much time. As, then panel and towel will both be wet and soaked with lubricated solution before touching the panel. Any detailing task takes me A LOT of time because I'm working on my own car and take every precaution. But, I have found some advantages of rinse-less or waterless wash.

1. No water spots. You can pressure wash the car outside, and do the rinse-less or waterless inside away from the sun.

2. Car dries faster and more completely. Even though I pressure wash first, most of the "drips" come out while you are doing the wash process. Also, I do the wheels conventionally first, so they dry completely while doing the rest of the car. Tires are also dry by the time you finish. This is where a lot of time is saved for me.

3. It is faster (not too much) because you spend no time rinsing, getting the hose, and laying it down. Also, its faster because I don't have to hook up DI water filter for final rinse.

4. You are able to work in very cold temperatures easier without getting (as) wet. As you can work anywhere you can park in shelter. You can do your pre-rinsing outside and pull car inside to wash. Also, you are able to pressure wash at one local (coin op) and rinse-less wash at another (inside away from cold)

5. Since I pressure wash first, lube the panels with waterless wash, and clean wheels and tires conventionally first, the results are the same if not better than a 2BM wash. "Better" because you are left with no water spots. Also, because your not rushing to get done before the water dries.
 
The process of a rinseless isnt marginally faster for me either but the clean up is. Instead of taking out the pressure washer and foam cannon and putting them away when im done, I only have to fill up two buckets which is at least ten minutes saved for me. I have always presoaked the panel first before going over it with my mitt and havent noticed any scratches with ONR.
 
For the guys using the Garry Dean method, what towels do you use?

I've been experimenting with a few towels. So far, I like the Rolled Edge more than the Gold Plush Jr (my go-to towel) and CG's blue Monster. The RE tends to be more uniformed during wipe; roll significantly less (no pun intended) compared to towels mentioned. The next ones I'm trying are Autofiber Zero Edge and lighter 300 sgm towels.
 
I use ONR and Blackfire rinseless and haven't had swirling or scratching from either.
 
Rinseless is all I can do at my current location so I use it pretty often. The only real problem I've run into is when I'm working on wheels and wheel wells. I only do them after the paint is done but I often have to make a second mix of solution since the wheels turn the solution murky pretty quick. Other than that rinseless has saved me a lot of time and time=money
 
Rinseless washes are awesome when it's cold outside. I personally like the Meguiars rinseless over any other that I've used. The cleaning power is incredible and the wash media does not get stained at all. I've never seen any scratches, but of course sometimes a car is just too dirty for anything other than a traditional wash.
 
I pre-soak, or go to a coin op to get the nasty heavy built up stuff off if it's been awhile. I two bucket wash with grit guards as well. I use a chenille mitt (the dreadlock looking one).
 
I've never been a fan off rinseless washes. I'll only do a traditional wash, nothing else...

Hey Mark.

This has been my position for a long time. :props:

I know realize formulations contain lubricants that "float" the surface contamination BUT, dragging a bow wave of debris across a polished panel has to be imparting defects to some degree....

I have done rinseless washes during the winter months here in New England but the surface contamination must be light along with the paints color.. I also flood the panel prior to and during the wash..
 
Just finally tried my black fire rinseless wash and it put a bunch of fine scratches in my car. I ended up going through and polishing the car over. Luckly they came out pretty easy. I did just what the bottle said to do. My car just had a light dusting of salt and dirt. THe touchless car washes put less scratches in my car.


Not that it will help now but I have a lot of tips on getting a car clean without scratching in these two articles,

Tips & Techniques for using a Spray Detailer to Remove Light Dust, Fingerprints and Smudges

How many microfiber polishing cloths do I need to detail my car?

How dirty is too dirty to safely use a rinseless wash?



:)
 
I have the flip side of using ONR when it's cold.

I use it when it's 100 plus in the shade. It's a challenge keeping large vehicles wet, avoiding water spots.

It's nice to wash and dry one panel at a time.

I use the blue rolled edge towels. They don't swirl my paint.
 
Rinseless has it place.

Of course, technique has a lot to do with getting mar free results just like a two bucket wash.

Doing rinseless does not mean you cannot pre-soak with rinseless solution or hose it down when dealing with moderate amount of soiling.
 
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