Griot's Garage NEW BOSS Paint Polishing System

It's no secret Griot's looked at RUPES for inspiration on the new BOSS system. Ask Jeff Brown and he'll tell you the same.


Looks like they just completely copied everything from Rupes and just changed the names. Rupes was innovated with designing the actually body of the polisher and companies like megiuars, griots & chemical guys just copied ideas.
 
Looks like they just completely copied everything from Rupes and just changed the names. Rupes was innovated with designing the actually body of the polisher and companies like megiuars, griots & chemical guys just copied ideas.

Of course just about everything is a copy of something else; this just looks more blatant because the differences (or lack thereof) are easier to see. Does that negate the quality or usefulness of the tool(s)? I can't say, at least not until I've used it. But I'm betting it's a great system.
 
As always, Mike, real great write-up. I am in the market for a new polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ries/91203-upgrading-porter-cable-7424xp.html) and had landed on the Flex 3401, but then here comes this other option from GG. As interesting as it is, there are several things that are keeping me from giving it serious consideration.

  1. Only 4 and 5 inch backing plates. Maybe a 3rd party will fix that in the future, but right now, nothing exist below this.
  2. Build quality? GG's past offerings never felt solid to me before and I recently tried the Rupes as well. None of them compared to Flex. How would this new solution compare?
  3. Smoothness and fatigue? My PCXP and GG's 6 are not comfortable machines to use at all. The Rupes and Flex are. How is the smoothness of their new machine and is the fatigue experienced (or not experienced) close to the Rupes and Flex?
  4. Price. Really? I guess only time will tell if it's something comparable to a 3401 or Bigfoot (since GG is pricing it with the big boys), but that initial price is definitely not helping its initial attractiveness for me.
 
The difference is though that just like GG's original (which is also made in China), I assume they will be sold with a lifetime guarantee.

It's pretty much a 2yr comprehensive warranty. Lifetime against defects which pretty much means 2yr warranty. It's all in the wording.
 
Can anyone comment on how it sounds in comparison to a rupes? The rupes always had the annoying high pitched whine to it.
 
I am not in the market for a polisher right now (I find my GG 6" versatile enough to satisfy my needs). If I were in the market, though, I would definitely consider buying this system for the lifetime warranty alone! Unlike other warranties, which are often money-making schemes for the applicable companies, GG's warranty is 1) free, and 2) taken seriously. I had to send in my GG under warranty once, and the staff were very accommodating, no questions were asked and it was replaced easily. The replacement was refurbished and the power knob didn't function correctly, so I returned that, which was a minor hassle, but the GG staff were all so friendly and apologetic; they sent a brand new one to me very quickly to rectify the situation (it was the new model too). I felt valued as a customer, and thus, GG has my loyalty! GG as a company seems to understand the lifetime value of a customer and the importance of customer satisfaction! Mnay of the polishers out there, to me, are similar. In fact, regarding consumer goods, there is often an illusion of choice, with many similar products being marketed in different ways. (Not saying there aren't specified products out there, especially int he detailing industry). That being said, to me, what is more important than picking, say, CG ez creme from PB black hole, which may give similar results on dark vehicles is 1) the value behind the product(s), and 2) the company behind them (do they value customers, are they green/socially responsible etc. I think that GG, even if they do have machines from China, takes customer loyalty seriously, and also offers a great value price-wise for what you get. Just my $0.02.
 
As always, Mike, real great write-up. I am in the market for a new polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ries/91203-upgrading-porter-cable-7424xp.html) and had landed on the Flex 3401, but then here comes this other option from GG. As interesting as it is, there are several things that are keeping me from giving it serious consideration.

  1. Only 4 and 5 inch backing plates. Maybe a 3rd party will fix that in the future, but right now, nothing exist below this.
  2. Build quality? GG's past offerings never felt solid to me before and I recently tried the Rupes as well. None of them compared to Flex. How would this new solution compare?
  3. Smoothness and fatigue? My PCXP and GG's 6 are not comfortable machines to use at all. The Rupes and Flex are. How is the smoothness of their new machine and is the fatigue experienced (or not experienced) close to the Rupes and Flex?
  4. Price. Really? I guess only time will tell if it's something comparable to a 3401 or Bigfoot (since GG is pricing it with the big boys), but that initial price is definitely not helping its initial attractiveness for me.

Maybe they might a sale like they did a while back 15% off , no exclusion...I bought my pink flex for around $300.00 :)
 
People don't even recommend the porter cable anymore, they say get the griots it has more power, this is the exact same scenario..

I have 2 griots pcs 1 PC from 3D and one Porter Cable PC. The Porter Cable is the oldest of the PCs I have and never never had an issue with it. Both Griots have been replaced 3 times already. Just saying.
 
Is this an all new design, or a rebranded Chinese made polisher like the Waxedshine is?
 
Will these pads, compounds and polishes work with a non-long-throw DA, such as the GG 6" ROP, or are they designed solely for long throw machines?
 
I'm most curious how it compares to the Rupes 15 & 21 and Flex on curved, concave and convex panels....
 

There are 2 initial impressions/reviews on DI by two well respected pro detailers-- check them out as they outline the improvements. You can also go to the MaxShine website and Griots website and compare the specs to see for yourself.

It appears Maxshine makes the new Griots polishers, but if you watched the video and do some reading on the Griots website you'll see they designed it to their specs (higher quality counter weight, high quality gears and bearings) so it's not an exact Maxshine unit.
 
Will these pads, compounds and polishes work with a non-long-throw DA, such as the GG 6" ROP, or are they designed solely for long throw machines?


Absolutely will work with any DA!!

I tired a test panel with the Finishing Sealant on my GG6 (5" plate) and a Griot's FAST MF pad....might just be my new AIO go-to! I'll have to do some more testing and see how the longevity is, but there is enough abrasives in it along with the MF pad and smaller diameter system, seemed to be plenty aggressive....:dblthumb2:

Mike
 
I hate to to a downer, but this is exactly what I expected...a Chinese Rupes. Relabeled Maxshine that has been on eBay for ever. Just shop on Alibaba for the next great polisher. AG just needs to drop Rupes. I feel for their company. Everyone here railed against Maxshine, now we can buy a Maxshine competitor? Duplication. Now I don't trust ant Griots products. I apologize if I upset AG or any potential buyers, but this is a forum and this is my opinion.

I can definitely understand you're assumption based on all the other tools that have come out over that last year or so, but having seen disassembled units from Rupes, ANSI Auto, off the shelf Maxshine, and the new BOSS, and can assure you this couldn't be further from the truth. These tools started from a drawing and every feature was discussed with a team of developers on how to make a tool with features that most all detailers would want. From the soft rubber grips, reshaped pistol handle, instant-on variable speed trigger, quick access brushes, effortless speed lock, improved speed dial, platypus head design, premium NSK bearings throughout...really the only thing this tool has in common is the offset of the tool and similarity in shroud design. These tools were built to Griot's design and are required to meet the rigorous QC standards set in place by Griot's, regardless of who makes it. 5 second with each tool in your hand and you wouldn't be saying the things you are above.

I've had these tools since December of 2014 and I would encourage you to spend a few minutes watching my review online. :xyxthumbs:


https://youtu.be/p7cAF3tqPNQ
 
Let's not knock the Maxshine until we put it up against all competitors. Fair is fair. Maxshine can be had for under $200, so buy 2 for the price of the Boss. If one breaks you don't have to send it off, just throw it away. Who fixes stuff anyway? Ever tried to get a TV fixed?
 
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