Guide to taping off a car

As a rookie, and a person who absolutely hates taking an hour to go over the car picking wax out, I prob go over board. The good thing is, I'm getting faster at it. I just hate those rounded window trims. I wind up tearing little strips trying to get it right, but I'm anal about everything.
 
The only issue I really have with taping is when i use the blue 'painters tape'...it tends to stick fine to what i WANT it to stick to...like plastic molding for example...but it doesnt stick to ITSELF that well....what i mean is...in some cases you cant just run ONE solid line of tape to cover an area...you have to add a piece at the end or do multiple small pieces to where the tape overlaps itself in some spots...and it usually wont stick that well to itself. Otherwise, no problems for the most part.
 
To me it comes down to a huge variety of factors. I have gone from taping everything perfectly (like is shown in Mikes pictures) to not taping anything at all.

I agree. I've done all kinds of styles, sometime taping everything off, sometimes taping nothing off..

When I write an article, since I like to help as many people as I can and I know everyone is different, I try to provide as many options as possible and let everyone pick and choose from the article all of it... or part of it... or none of it...

That's my normal approach versus providing nominal information. Of course, good pictures helps others to see the entire picture with the descriptions and how-to directions...



I personally like to do everything like an assembly line. I don't want to lay one piece of tape and then dress half a tire and then clean a window, you get the idea. When I tape I want to get it all done at one time.

If I'm going to tape anything off I like to do it all at once and at the very beginning of the project, that is after the Test Spot and then getting the work area clean.


When I sanded and buffed-out this 1970 El Camino I had a lot of other projects going on at the time and had to spread this job out over 3-4 days. I was really worried that I was going to run into problems when it came time to take the tape off and luck was with me as there were no problems at all. I would attribute this to the fact that we didn't have any hot days and temperatures remained cool, thus the adhesive didn't warm up and become more sticky after application.



One thing for sure, after all the rotary buffer steps and DA steps this El Camino saw it was nice not to have any detailing, or toothbrush work to do...



Damp-Sanding Tools, Tips and Techniques...

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Taping-Off, Covering Up and Removing Trim
As a rule, it's a good idea to tape-off any raised hard body line for two reasons,

  1. So you don't sand over the high points
  2. Simply so you can see where they risky areas are at on a panel
1. So you don't sand over the high points
Paint will tend to be thinnest on any high point as the forces of gravity will cause the paint when it's sprayed and thus a liquid to flow downward. It only takes a few seconds of sanding on any high point, edge, corner or raised body line to either sand through the topcoat or remove enough material that when you later compound the area you go through the topcoat while compounding. So taping off high points will save you from having to repaint a panel.

2. So you can see where they risky areas are at on a panel
This one might sound kind of dumb if you've never sanded down an entire car before so let me share with you why it's important. As you're sanding, you'll create a white slurry on the panel that you can't see through. This slurry is made up of particles of paint you've removed off the topcoat, mixed with water. As it covers the panel it hides or camouflages everything under it including a high point or raised body line. By placing some tape over the area you want to avoid you create a visual indicator or reminder of where not to sand.

Here you can see where I've taped-off the edge of the gas tank door and the sheet metal surrounding the opening for the gas tank door. This will protect the edges while sanding and compounding.

Body lines taped-off
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If you look carefully you can see some thin tape lines running down the center of the hood and the middle of each half-sections of the hood, these are raised body lines as a part of the styling of the hood. They are not very high off the surface and when sanding, the entire area will become white with water slurry. By taping them off I could see where they were at and if I accidentally run the sander too close to them, no worries...

Thin tape on top of raised body lines on the hood
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Grills and Vents
It's nearly impossible to get under the fresh air grill on late model cars to remove splatter residue so I always carefully tape them off. Sad to say but whoever sanded and buffed this car before me plastered the area under the tape you see here and there's no practical safe way to remove it so it will forever be an eyesore when the owner shows this El Camino

Fresh Air Grills Taped-off
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Here you can see where I've taped-off any edge I didn't want to risk sanding over... and it's not that I'm not good at what I do it's because the next paint job I buy is going to be for me.



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I love the wheel maskers... especially when machine dampsanding or using a rotary buffer...

Canvas Wheel Covers
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De-taped

After Shots - This is after all the rotary buffer steps...
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Re-assembling trim components
Before I started any washing, claying or chemical stripping, the first thing I did was to remove, package and identify as much of the chrome trim as I could do so safely. Don't count on your memory to remember where each and every little nut, bolt or washer goes but instead use Zip-lock bags and Post-It notes to compartmentalize and describe the components and where they came from.

The first application of paint sealant will make the paint slippery so it will resist any accidental scratching or scuffing during assembly of the trim pieces.

All chrome trim components for this 1969 El Camino were packaged to prevent
losing any parts and identified as to where the were removed from.
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You can use a little Dielectric grease on the rubber boots to make assembly and any future disassembly easier but don't actually coat the electrical connectors with dielectric grease as it is non-conductive.
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Clean and oil all threads before reassembling components, be careful not to over tighten assembly
nuts and bolts on classic to avoid braking or stripping attachment components...
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Clean and sanitary re-assembly creates a crisp, factory new look...
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A fast, simple way to attach any screws to their rightful home is to place some painter's tape on the threads after inserting them into their proper location. This will save you lots of time hunting down just the right threaded screw to re-attach trim components. Remove the tape, clean the component and it's ready to re-assemble.

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After the first compounding step Post-it notes were placed on all 4 major windows to remind people not to touch the car and specifically the paint. After the last polishing step and any wax or sealant steps, the finish becomes so clear and glossy that fingerprint smudges stand out like a sore thumb.

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Fuzion is a Finishing Hybrid
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Wiped off...
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Then outside for a few beauty shots...
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Note the chrome trim around the side marker lights is still missing...
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But yeah... tape-off as little or as much as works best for you...

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LOL, I even hang newspaper over my wheels on all but my daily drivers.

LOL, I've never used newspaper, but I do have those canvas bag type things that I got from a body shop supply house in my area. They are pretty cheap and one set should last you forever. It sure beats the hell out of cleaning polish splatter off of clean tires and wheels!

If you are using a rotary (especially for the first few times), you may consider taping very sharp contours of body panels also.

I do this when I wetsand.
 
Of course classic cars are a lot easier to tape off as they don't have much or any plastic trim like the cursed pebble textured black plastic...

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With classic cars with chrome and stainless steel trim, the thing you want to avoid is getting sanding slurry, or compound and polish residue in the gap between the trim and the paint and the only way to prevent this is by taping the trim off.

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That's a '68 or '69, not a '70. :xyxthumbs:

Good catch, I was thinking 1970 but in this thread I did refer to it as a 1969 El Camino

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This is our project car. This is a restored and mild hotrod 1969 El Camino with a custom basecoat/clearcoat finish. The fit and finish of the panels is excellent and the paint application came out very nice, there are a few leftover sanding marks in the paint and rotary buffer swirls including arc scratches probably from an abrasive particle being trapped between the pad and the paint. Our goal is to remove all the below surface defects and restore a true show car shine.
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We moved the car out into the sun where the bright overhead sunlight can reveal the true condition of the paint.

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You have a good eye for model years Charles...

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Ok, here's an update on my progress (with pics) after purchasing the video from AG on taping a car off.

First, I know you cant see the pics of my first 20 jobs but here is the first one after watching the video, I've improved. It's an Acura and man it had alot of taping. Everything on this car has a rubber seal or trim somewhere.

It did take me longer, only because I was trying to do it carefully using Mikes method. After trial and error I incorporated my own tricks and about half way through the car I noticed my speed picked up tremendously, not a taping speed demon by no means but quicker than I was.

Please notice my rounded corners, aint they pretty ? This is the whole reason I bought the video, I was tired of tearing off little pieces of tape trying to get that corner round.

Also notice my emblems, aint they pretty too ? Can a man say pretty and still sound like a man ??

I did figure out that there is no quick way to tape a car up. It can be made easier with less cursing but as far as quick goes, I think the purpose for taping explains why it cant be done quick. It's called detailing for a reason, nuff said.

One last thing, I had some questions about the video so I emailed Mike. Not only did he answer me but gave me his number and told him to give him a call. ON A SUNDAY FOLKS !! BIG Mike, thanks for the help. :xyxthumbs:

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Wow!

You did great! And you're right, a lot of new cars have a lot of rubber and plastic trim and gaskets on them and if you don't tape them off then you get to go back and spend time and frustration trying to remove the residue.


For what it's worth, I'm really slow at taping off cars, so don't worry about it. :xyxthumbs:

You want to see someone that's fast... watch a professional painter, someone that's been painting cars for years... they grab their paper and tape car and literally fly around a car.


Nice work and thanks for sharing!


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Thanks for showing the update. Even with all this info in the thread, I'm a visual learner. I'm very tempted into buying the video now..
 
This is an incredible thread for us beginners too. I've been following along albeit in the virtual sense. Some excellent hints, ideas on technique and various tips to make it easier. I also like the way you folks are explaining the "WHY" are we doing this rather than just saying here's a picture to look at (most everyone on this forum does include the 'whys', just emphasizing it).

Mike P. - You are correct, a professional painter that has painted a few years can tape/paper off a car so fast it will make your head swim.
 
So how do you polish the trim on the doors? Do you polish the door, untape, and the tape around the trim?? I could use some tips.

I'm not quite sure what you're asking...if the trim is plastic...you wouldnt polish it, just dress it. If it is chrome or something like that...depending on the condition its in you can polish it by hand after you untape it especially if its a small area....if its a bigger area (like a chrome bumper) then you can polish it with a 4" pad.
 
You are correct, I should have been more specific. My trim is color matched and painted. I do not have 4" pads and I was wondering if there was a technique using 5.5" pads. Sorry about the confusion.
 

Looks great! I think you taped up everything we would, corners look good and well stuck on. Best tip is to make sure vehicle is dry ;)

In addition, if you polish the B-pillar trim, make sure to cover the little bit of rubber and window trim that meets up to it, and extend the tape down and around about the size of the pad.

EDIT: Add some tape to the underside of the mirrors as to protect from the pad hitting it as you polish the door under the mirror area!

Extra EDIT: I prefer not to place the roll of tape on the paint (roof) ;) Leave it on the sunroof glass or windshield.

And to all you guys complaining about $14 to learn how to tape from The Master of taping, get a life. You have received much more value than $14 just by reading this thread.
 
...You have received much more value than $14 just by reading this thread.

No argument here. Learning how to do something right the first time, instead of the trial-and-error way, is worth a lot.
 
The only thing I don't understand is if the videos were made to sell to be able to teach then why would the video have only certain time where you can only watch for I think 30 days after that you will have to pay to watch again.


Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But that's what I got told last time.

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