How to clean your foam pad on the fly

Great video mike, that makes it very clear :) I'm new to machine polishing and only tried "on the fly" cleaning once (after reading your book) and I epically failed! My problem was I basically tried to hold the pad tight so that it would move before I turned it on, the machine won hahaha. the 6.5 inch pad probably didn't help either. Thanks again for the video!
 
Re: How to clean your foam pad on the fly when using a Porter Cable style DA Polisher

Great video mike, that makes it very clear :) I'm new to machine polishing and only tried "on the fly" cleaning once (after reading your book) and I epically failed!

My problem was I basically tried to hold the pad tight so that it would move before I turned it on, the machine won hahaha. the 6.5 inch pad probably didn't help either.

Thanks again for the video!


Good to hear!


:)
 
Re: How to clean your foam pad on the fly when using a Porter Cable style DA Polisher

What speed would I put the PC on when doing this?
 
Re: How to clean your foam pad on the fly when using a Porter Cable style DA Polisher

What speed would I put the PC on when doing this?


High speed of course...

Actually, focus on these words...


on the fly....


The idea is to do this quickly and get back to work. When doing correction work you're normally on the high speed settings. Right?

You DON'T take the time to adjust the speed setting, just leave it where it's at while you're working, clean the pad and get back to work.

Adjusting the speed setting would take time, turn it down, clean you pad, turn it back up get to work. That's two points you're fiddle-faddling with the speed setting. Plus wear and tear on the dial.

Don't make this any more complicated than it has to be because it's really quite simple.


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Re: How to clean your foam pad on the fly when using a Porter Cable style DA Polisher

High speed of course...

Actually, focus on these words...


on the fly....


The idea is to do this quickly and get back to work. When doing correction work you're normally on the high speed settings. Right?

You DON'T take the time to adjust the speed setting, just leave it where it's at while you're working, clean the pad and get back to work.

Adjusting the speed setting would take time, turn it down, clean you pad, turn it back up get to work. That's two points you're fiddle-faddling with the speed setting. Plus wear and tear on the dial.

Don't make this any more complicated than it has to be because it's really quite simple.


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Ok will do :)
 
Does the pad have to spin when you're gripping it?? I gripped it and it just vibrate on the towel. If I lighten up the towel spin with it too.
 
nvm i think i got it now. i was expecting the pad to be all white again. i guess i was expecting a little too much there lol.
 
Mike

Could you make a quick vid on how to use a pad conditioning brush properly to clean pads while polishing? I have one and honestly don't know if I'm using it correctly or not. Thanks.
 
Mike

Could you make a quick vid on how to use a pad conditioning brush properly to clean pads while polishing? I have one and honestly don't know if I'm using it correctly or not. Thanks.

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Does the pad have to spin when you're gripping it?? I gripped it and it just vibrate on the towel.

This is correct.

You use your fingers to grip the backing plate like I show in the video and pull the palm of face of your hand towards the face of the pad and this of course pushes the towel into the foam. Then two things happen...

1. the nap or cotton loops agitate against the foam to loose and remove any built up paint and residue gunk.

2. Because cotton absorbs, the cotton absorbs "some" of the excess liquid building up inside of the foam out of the foam.



If I lighten up the towel spin with it too.

That's okay.

I lighten up and allow the pad to spin a little and then repeat the squishing of the towel against the pad so you're getting more and different portions of the pad clean and wicked dry.

Remember, the entire idea behind the ONE THE FLY part of the title is this...

Buffing out an ENTIRE car in one day using a PC type of polisher already takes a long time. 6-12 hours depending upon how large the car is and how good or experienced you are and of course how many machine steps you're going to do.

You WANT a way to clean your pad QUICKLY so you can get back to buffing on the paint.

You DON"T WANT a way to clean your pad that takes 10 to 15 minutes or this will add up and add to the total time it takes to buff out the car and you'll be buffing out the average car for 2 days.




nvm i think i got it now. i was expecting the pad to be all white again.

Nope.

i guess i was expecting a little too much there lol.


Cleaning your pad on the fly is a way to get the pad "pretty clean" not "perfectly clean". Getting your pad pretty clean is good enough to get back to work quickly and get the job done and get the job done right.

If you want perfectly clean, buy more pads and after you buff a section, remove the pad and set it aside for washing and replace it with a brand new clean pad, or a used pad that you've previously cleaned and dried.

In a perfect world, more pads is better... let your budget decide...


Hope that helps... most people make cleaning their pad on the fly harder than it has to be... it's as easy as I make it look in this video and after you get your pad pretty clean... get back to work!




How to clean your pad on the fly

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The above technique works with any of the below DA Polishers,

Porter Cable DA Polisher
Meguiar's DA Polisher
Griot's Garage DA Polisher
Shurhold DA Polisher



So let’s take a look at how-to clean your pad on the fly

Cleaning your pad on the fly is where you take a terry cloth towel, usually a medium size hand towel works best, you fold it in two and then simply hold the towel against the face of the pad and then turn the polisher on and use your hand that’s holding the towel to push the towel into the foam. This will act to draw any excess liquid out of the foam and any excess residue off of the face of the pad.


This is me using the Clean your Pad on the Fly Technique to clean my pad on the fly as we removed the oxidation off this Neon.

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Thanks Mike! I know this question has been ask a lot. I just wanted to confirm wether the pad should spin the whole time while I'm keeping the towel still. I just find that hard to do cause the towel is so grippy it would just stop and vibrate.

Now I have a better understanding from your explanation. It should do a little bit of everything.

Thank you! Hopefully this help more people get a better idea of the concept.

I only had 2 pad to work with for the last week. I was too excited so I couldn't wait to get on polishing. But now I just ordered my self 5 more white pads so I can stay clean the whole way :)

Oh btw for those that are new, dont use a microfiber towel to do this. Mike mentioned this on his video. I was curious so I tried it. It pretty much permanently split all the microfiber up. Which i now use for engine cleaning.
 
Thanks Mike! I know this question has been ask a lot. I just wanted to confirm wether the pad should spin the whole time while I'm keeping the towel still. I just find that hard to do cause the towel is so grippy it would just stop and vibrate. Now I have a better understanding from your explanation. It should do a little bit of everything. Thank you! Hopefully this help more people get a better idea of the concept. I only had 2 pad to work with for the last week. I was too excited so I couldn't wait to get on polishing. But now I just ordered my self 5 more white pads so I can stay clean the whole way :)

Oh btw for those that are new, dont use a microfiber towel to do this. Mike mentioned this on his video. I was curious so I tried it. It pretty much permanently split all the microfiber up. Which i now use for engine cleaning.

I let my pad spin and I do give it some good pressure to work the outsides of the pad a few times
 
Thanks Mike! I know this question has been ask a lot. I just wanted to confirm whether the pad should spin the whole time while I'm keeping the towel still. I just find that hard to do cause the towel is so grippy it would just stop and vibrate.

Now I have a better understanding from your explanation. It should do a little bit of everything.

You have it down...



I only had 2 pad to work with for the last week. I was too excited so I couldn't wait to get on polishing. But now I just ordered my self 5 more white pads so I can stay clean the whole way

More pads are better... not a sales pitch, just the facts when it comes to buffing out anything with foam pads...



Oh btw for those that are new, dont use a microfiber towel to do this. Mike mentioned this on his video. I was curious so I tried it.

It pretty much permanently split all the microfiber up. Which i now use for engine cleaning.


Plus, you want the stoutness of cotton terry cloth that is the stoutness of the loops of cotton fibers to help slice into th gunk, break it up and get it off the pad.

Microfiber is too soft and gentle for this process. It's also the reason we like microfiber for wiping product off of paint, because it's soft and gentle, it want scratch the paint.


Terry cloth hand towels are the way to go. I keep about a dozen in the studio for all types of things and cleaning foam pads on the fly is one of them...


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Silly question but I've been trying to find the terry cloth you used in your write up but all I find in stores look like "strands" of cloth put together and doesn't look like your pics. Harborfreight, advance auto parts, AutoZone(descriptions say 100% cotton terry cloth). Are these useable or am I looking in the wrong places?
 
Hi mike. If i just buff with soft compund polish, how often i have to clean my pad ? Can i buff my entire car then clean my pad ?

thanks =)
 
Silly question but I've been trying to find the terry cloth you used in your write up but all I find in stores look like "strands" of cloth put together and doesn't look like your pics.


I get my towels at the gym I work out at. They, (the gym), buys them at Costco and resells them for just a little over their cost as a friendly service to the gym members.

I think they are Martex brand.

:)
 
Hi mike. If i just buff with soft compund polish, how often i have to clean my pad ?

In a perfect world, you clean your pad after each section you buff.



Can i buff my entire car then clean my pad ?

thanks =)

If that works for you...


See my article here,

Why it's important to clean your pads often...


ANYTIME you're abrading the surface whether you're using an aggressive cutting compound of an ultra fine polish, you have two things building up on the face of your buffing pad...
  • Spent product
  • Removed paint
You need to remove both of these substances from the face of the pad and the panel you're working on before you apply fresh product. If you don't,
  • Adding fresh product to spent product and removed paint adulterates the fresh product, it also dilutes it.
  • Buffing with a dirty pad will be more difficult.
  • The product will cake-up on the face of the pad.
  • The product will become gummy on the paint and hard to wipe off.
How to clean your pads and other options to make buffing clean again...
  • You can scrub the face of the pad with a nylon brush like a pad conditioning brush or even a nylon toothbrush
  • If using a Dual Action Polisher or a Rotary Buffer you can clean your pad on the fly with a terry cloth towel
  • You can wash your pads in a bucket of water
  • You can wash your pads in a sink under running water
  • You can wash your pads in a pad washer
  • You can switch to a clean, dry pad
  • You can switch to a brand new pad
I just buffed out half the hood on an oxidized 1959 Cadillac and used the technique along with a nylon brush and it works adequately enough to allow me to work clean and get back to work quickly.


That's the whole idea behind cleaning your pad on the fly... you can remove a majority of the spent product and removed paint and then get back to running the buffer... buffing out an entire car already takes a l-o-n-g time... stopping to do some kind of pad cleaning procedure that isn't quick and easy keeps you from buffing on the paint.


Fast methods include,
  • Pad Washers
  • Cleaning your pad on the fly with a terry cloth towel
  • Using a nylon pad conditioning brush
  • Using a Spur if you're using a wool pad on a rotary buffer

Slow methods, (they might work well but they take you away from buffing on the car)
  • You can wash your pads in a bucket of water
  • You can wash your pads in a sink under running water

:)
 
Any tips on cleaning your pad while using a Flex? Or pull them off and put them on a GG and clean them on the fly? I have a pad brush but it seems to eat up the pad on flex.
 
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