Is layering opti-coat worth it?

[Flash Gordon]

Here ya go:

AUTHORIZED OPTIMUM PROFESSIONAL COATING INSTALLERS

Wow! Could they make it any harder to navigate :laughing:

 

[Setec Astronomy]

OK, I wasn't aware of any re-direct. I just saw a worldwide map for installers.

I don't think we're on the same page, there is another (new) site for pros to purchase the warranty kits, it was up for testing but now that address re-directs to the Optimum forum store which competes with AG, so I don't want to spell it out.

 

[RaskyR1]

Professional Coatings

 

[richy]

Wow! Could they make it any harder to navigate :laughing:

Hey Flash...zoom in on my area...I'm waving at you....and look, I'm even using ALL my fingers, hahahahahhaha:awesome:

 

[Rsurfer]

And while we're at it, the early batches of 2.0 were NOT layerable?

And while we're at it, the early batches of 2.0 could never be worn off except by polishing. To me that would mean that the coating will last as long as I own the car. Now the life expectancy is 5 years and lifetime for the OCP.

 

[richy]

And while we're at it, the early batches of 2.0 could never be worn off except by polishing. To me that would mean that the coating will last as long as I own the car. Now the life expectancy is 5 years and lifetime for the OCP.

Ron, don't confuse "life expectancy" with what Optimum is willing to cover on a warranty. Hell, I even did a 2002 Concorde with it a while back and I fully expect it to last a very long time.

 

[RaskyR1]

And while we're at it, the early batches of 2.0 were NOT layerable?

If I remember correctly 2.0 has always been layerable, it just wasn't discovered until after it was released (Chris demoing on Lambo hood at SEMA). It was the Original version of Opti-Coat that was NOT layerable, but after it was updated to the same resin as Opti-Coat 2.0 it became layerable.


Chris can correct if I'm wrong but that's how I remember it. rops:

 

[Flash Gordon]

Hey Flash...zoom in on my area...I'm waving at you....and look, I'm even using ALL my fingers, hahahahahhaha:awesome:

Your website (company name) was actually the first one I browsed across :dblthumb2:

Professional Coatings

I'm coming up with nothing. C'mon Chad, quit holding out :nomore:

btw....everytime I see Minneapolis on the weather channel my heart goes out to you

 

[RaskyR1]

Your website (company name) was actually the first one I browsed across :dblthumb2:



I'm coming up with nothing. C'mon Chad, quit holding out :nomore:

btw....everytime I see Minneapolis on the weather channel my heart goes out to you

Sorry, looks like you have to be logged in to see it.

Thanks! I really hate this time of year not having a drain and running water.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

It was the Original version of Opti-Coat that was NOT layerable, but after it was updated to the same resin as Opti-Coat 2.0 it became layerable.

Uh-oh...different resin?

 

[Flash Gordon]

Sorry, looks like you have to be logged in to see it.

Thanks! I really hate this time of year not having a drain and running water.

Okay, thanks :xyxthumbs:

If I ever get rich like Richy I will build you a heated garage with a drain and throw in a snow plow

:dblthumb2:

 

[FUNX650]

I'm coming up with nothing. C'mon Chad, quit holding out


I've got the inside info!!

Hi Flash...

There's a couple of Tennessee:
AUTHORIZED PROFESSIONAL COATING INSTALLERS...listed;

But this one I question:

INTEGRITY DETAIL
COOKEVILLE, TN
NAME: THOMAS, CHRIS
PHONE: 931 267 2500
WEB SITE: www.facebook.com/integritydetail
GROUP: AUTHORIZED PROFESSIONAL COATING INSTALLER



Bob

 

[Flash Gordon]

Hi Flash...

There's a couple of Tennessee:
AUTHORIZED PROFESSIONAL COATING INSTALLERS...listed;

But this one I question:

INTEGRITY DETAIL
COOKEVILLE, TN
NAME: THOMAS, CHRIS
PHONE: 931 267 2500
WEB SITE: www.facebook.com/integritydetail
GROUP: AUTHORIZED PROFESSIONAL COATING INSTALLER



Bob

Hey thanks Bob. I've never heard of this guy so I have o idea of his qualifications

I did notice there is someone in Mphs that is certified, which brings me to my next question. Can there be more then one authorized dealer within the same city?

I appreciate y'all helping me out with all this. You sure are a helpful bunch!

 

[Lim3]

can it be layered with wax ?

 

[Rsurfer]

can it be layered with wax ?

You could, but you would only be wasting your wax, as it will be on your garage floor. J/K If you want the slick feel, you could use Optimum Car Wax.

 

[Lim3]

You could, but you would only be wasting your wax, as it will be on your garage floor. J/K If you want the slick feel, you could use Optimum Car Wax.

I have wanted to coat my car with for awhile
Now. I was just wondering if it would benefit the actual opti coat since it acts like a clear. Why not protect that from swirls and such like we do with our OEM clear. I'm just curious to see if wax will still have the nice visual finish if applied on.

 

[richy]

I have wanted to coat my car with for awhile
Now. I was just wondering if it would benefit the actual opti coat since it acts like a clear. Why not protect that from swirls and such like we do with our OEM clear. I'm just curious to see if wax will still have the nice visual finish if applied on.

The wax will do several things. It will alter the appearance somewhat (not a lot) and unfortunately, it will change the surface dynamics thereby temporarily losing the Lotus sheeting advantages that the coating offers. The coating will reject the wax in short order, so any appearance change will only be temporary. I personally top mine with ReLoad, Aqua Wax, UWW+ or FK425 as well as Permanon. I do that for the added slickness, not a change in appearance. The protection against swirls is going to be the coating (and how thick it is) as well as (and more importantly) how carefully you wash it. The best coating in the world can't protect against poor wash techniques....not implying you would...just saying.

 

[Chris Thomas]

Chris, I'm not really that up on the other coatings, so I'm not familiar with their consumer/pro differences. Are there any numbers available for how thick OG is, vs. a layer of OC 2.0? Are the subsequent layers of 2.0 the same thickness? Or does it lay out thinner or thicker when you layer it?

I wasn't referring to other coatings...just other products in general. Usually the only difference is dilution/concentration.

We have test numbers showing the original Opti Coat consistently at 2um. But I don't have any date for OC 2.0. The thickness would only be consistent when performed by the same person in the same manner of application, but you can expect from .5um to 2um from a single layer. For reference, this is about 100 times thicker than an application of wax and is much more durable.

So you can layer either after it's full cure time? It was said that after curing, opti coat would not even bond to itself.

Opti Coat will bond to itself within the cure period. If you find that it will not bond, you can lightly polish with Optimum Finish and that will "rough up" the surface enough to allow adhesion.

And while we're at it, the early batches of 2.0 were NOT layerable?

I think they were, but we weren't aware of it because it wouldn't work with the pro version...it may only be related to the cure time being longer with OC 2.0.

How is this going to work?

I will continue to make announcements as things develop on Optimum Forums. If you want to be an authorized installer, just contact me.

I was thinking of the portal for pro purchase, but that link redirects the regular store now so I didn't want to post it once I found it.

The only online portal for Pro Coating purchases is the Buy Direct store attached to Optimum Forums. You cannot even see the products if you are not an Authorized Installer, though. It will appear as though there are no products available if you only have "member" status. If you are a member and I have not changed your status to installer, just email me.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

but you can expect from .5um to 2um from a single layer. For reference, this is about 100 times thicker than an application of wax and is much more durable.

That's good info, and one of the few times I have ever seen a statment about a regular "wax" having a measureable thickness (if you can call .005 microns measurable).

The only online portal for Pro Coating purchases is the Buy Direct store attached to Optimum Forums. You cannot even see the products if you are not an Authorized Installer, though. It will appear as though there are no products available if you only have "member" status.

I thought buyoptdirect took me somewhere else a few weeks ago, maybe I could just see the authorized part of it then.

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Chris@Optimum has said that layering OC is kind of a waste of time, that one coat is permanent, and how much more permanent can you get?

If it's truly permanent, that makes sense 100%.