Just pulled out the surbuf pads......

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Hadn't used them for awhile after the whole MF hoopla! Gave them a whirl today on some heavily swirled paint. They cut like nobody's business(with a GG DA) when used with M105. The don't finish as good as the MF pads, but require less pressure, which equals less fatigue. I really like that! Don't pout these pads on the back burner! :dblthumb2:
 
so do u still prefer the MF disc compared to the surbuf?
 
Hey Mark,

I've heard that Surbuf pads work really well. I don't have any but from the photos I've seen the business surface appears to be similar to that of the Meguiar's DA Microfiber system.

Thanks for the reminder Mark! :props:
 
I think both offer options and better correcting ability when using the random orbitals versus foam pads.
 
I love the Surbuf pads! I noticed they last longer too. The velcro backing doesn't peel off under high heat and they don't seem to degrade easily compared to traditional foam pads.
 
Jhaight11 said:
so do u still prefer the MF disc compared to the surbuf?
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I really do like the MF system, but the pressure needed becomes a bit annoying(at least to me) after buffing for awhile. The light pressure needed with the surbuf makes them a breeze to use. The MF pads finish better, but don't cut quite as good. The both have their pros and cons.

BobbyG said:
Hey Mark,

I've heard that Surbuf pads work really well. I don't have any but from the photos I've seen the business surface appears to be similar to that of the Meguiar's DA Microfiber system.

Thanks for the reminder Mark! :props:
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Bobby,

What do you mean by business surface? ;)

killrwheels@autogeek said:
I think both offer options and better correcting ability when using the random orbitals versus foam pads.
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You NAILED it, Scott! :props:
 
Does the cut of yellow LC pads fall much behind the surbuff and MF cutting pads?
 
BobbyG said:
Hey Mark,

I've heard that Surbuf pads work really well. I don't have any but from the photos I've seen the business surface appears to be similar to that of the Meguiar's DA Microfiber system.

Thanks for the reminder Mark! :props:
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did you ever get around to try the MF pads yet?
 
Mark, do you mind if I share a couple pictures of my first experience with Surbuf pads? Maybe you can give me some feedback since you have used them more.
 
I totally agree about the Surbufs, Mark. The interesting part is I've actually had good luck with the Surbufs on my Flex DA, unlike the MF pads.
 
rwright said:
Mark, do you mind if I share a couple pictures of my first experience with Surbuf pads? Maybe you can give me some feedback since you have used them more.
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Richard, please do!!!! :dblthumb2:

Shiny Lil Detlr said:
I totally agree about the Surbufs, Mark. The interesting part is I've actually had good luck with the Surbufs on my Flex DA, unlike the MF pads.
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Charlie, I definitely agree the surbufs work better with the Flex 3401 than the MF pads, no doubt about it! Mechanically, the surbufs are supposed to work even better on a traditional DA, but I have yet to compare the two.
 
I've been wanting to try those Surbuf pads. Mainly because I've tried the MF system numerous times...and I don't see what all the hoopla is about. I actually don't like the system at all. The pads are ok...but I find them to be a pain to work with.

I like how these sound. They're going in the cart!
 
Be gentle since it was my first time using them :laughing:.

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What polish/compound did you use with that, Richard? If you went aggressive those results look pretty good, the hazing shouldn't be that tough to knock down with a second step.
 
Richard,

Compound?
Speed/Tool?
Pressure?

Defects look a lot better. Surbufs don't finish very well. :)

What are your thoughts on the surbufs?
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
What polish/compound did you use with that, Richard? If you went aggressive those results look pretty good, the hazing shouldn't be that tough to knock down with a second step.
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M105/Surbuf in those pics. Followed up with D300/mf cutting disk then M205/tangerine on one test spot and PO85RD/black on another test spot, same results so the rest of the car was M105/Surbuf, D300/MF, PO85RD/black. I wasn't sure if that hazing was normal or if people were finishing out better? First time using them so I'm looking to improve my technique :).
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
Richard,

Compound?
Speed/Tool?
Pressure?

Defects look a lot better. Surbufs don't finish very well. :)

What are your thoughts on the surbufs?
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Compound was M105, speed 6 GGDA, moderate pressure. That paint was pretty hard in my opinion. Cyan/M105 brightened the paint and left defects, Surbuf/M105 sliced right through nearly everything! My thoughts? Going to order more of these for sure as I need lots of practice with them and they will prove to be handy.
 
rwright said:
M105/Surbuf in those pics. Followed up with D300/mf cutting disk then M205/tangerine on one test spot and PO85RD/black on another test spot, same results so the rest of the car was M105/Surbuf, D300/MF, PO85RD/black. I wasn't sure if that hazing was normal or if people were finishing out better? First time using them so I'm looking to improve my technique :).
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Yeah, I've never been able to get Surbufs to finish down in a single step. Pretty much always have to go back with at least one more step.

If it were me I'd have skipped the D300 step and tried either 205 or 85RD on a MF finishing disc -- you might find you don't even need the third pass that way.
 
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