Meguiars Microfiber DA correction system... HERO or ZERO?

I did have some separation early on before an adhesive was settled on. I do have one pad starting to separate a little on the edges. I keep running with it to see how far it will go and it seems NOT to be getting worst. I have used it on maybe 10 vehicles now. It is still plenty usable.

I also have another pad that does look like the fibers are really thinned out. Those pads also have been used on countless vehicles so I guess it's expected.

Keep in mind the pads I have all have been test pads. We rocked them HARD.

At some point the pads will wear out. The question you need to ask yourself is; was the cost (investment) of the pad worth it versus what you made with the pad before it wore out.
 
superior_shine said:
I did have some separation early on before an adhesive was settled on. I do have one pad starting to separate a little on the edges. I keep running with it to see how far it will go and it seems NOT to be getting worst. I have used it on maybe 10 vehicles now. It is still plenty usable.

I also have another pad that does look like the fibers are really thinned out. Those pads also have been used on countless vehicles so I guess it's expected.

Keep in mind the pads I have all have been test pads. We rocked them HARD.

At some point the pads will wear out. The question you need to ask yourself is; was the cost (investment) of the pad worth it versus what you made with the pad before it wore out.
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Thanks for the info :) I'll probably just keep them to cars, and use wool/foam on the boats, the pads regardless of my experiences on durability are awesome and achieve amazing results, and worth the slight bump in cost per pad :)
 
I know next to nothing about this new MF system. Is this strictly for DA polishing??
 
Joe, what is your view on the system with the Dynabrade/Hitachi combo? Same as the Flex? Thanks.
 
just wondering if some of you seasoned folks have tried them with those 6inch air operated da,s-just wondering how that would workout against the flex
 
I used the new MF/D300 and I have to say it's the easiest thing I've used so far. Low dust, good cut. I need to try M105 and MF for deeper defects, but a good 85% correction with MF/D300 at one pass (2-3 section passes) and I'm happy. That is with a Griots DA. Only one car so far, so I'll report back with my truck results in a couple weeks (OEM paint and repaint).
 
Indy YZF said:
I used the new MF/D300 and I have to say it's the easiest thing I've used so far. Low dust, good cut. I need to try M105 and MF for deeper defects, but a good 85% correction with MF/D300 at one pass (2-3 section passes) and I'm happy. That is with a Griots DA. Only one car so far, so I'll report back with my truck results in a couple weeks (OEM paint and repaint).
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I agree about the easy part getting great results. The cut is awesome, the compound is so very easy to work with, and the finish of the compound is awesome, generally speaking. The MF system is flat out awesome! I'm excited to try M105 with the cutting pads. I have a feeling all megs SMAT products will work great with the MF pads.



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jimmy, the MF pads/d300 were very grabby. The polisher was all over the place. Plus, at higher speeds, I got "balding" on the pads. I'm convinced the MF system doesn't work well at all with the 3401. I'm gonna give m105 a try, but I can't imagine it will make a huge difference.


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You are doing something wrong then. Maybe try adding a spray of distilled water after a few passes or a spray of QD. Speed shouldn't be an issue, but see if you get the same results at a lower speed. How large of an area were you working?

Perfections said:
Joe, have you experienced ant pad separation on the cutting pad? Or flat spotting in the middle of the pad? I've used the system on one car, was blown away, but then hit 3 boats 2 of which were heavily oxidized and had 1 pad separate and the other is starting to flat spot in the middle of the pad, I'm using my air compressor only to clean them, so my only other guess to the cause would be pad saturation, but I'm using very little product, on a gg speed 3.5. Have you experienced this? Might just be a boat thing causing the problem, but the results were stunning and the customers were pleased :)
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Which backing plate are you using? If you use the one that is dedicated for the system you shouldnt have any problems.
 
NY946 said:
You are doing something wrong then. Maybe try adding a spray of distilled water after a few passes or a spray of QD. Speed shouldn't be an issue, but see if you get the same results at a lower speed. How large of an area were you working?



Which backing plate are you using? If you use the one that is dedicated for the system you shouldnt have any problems.
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Yeppers I called a friend that had been using the system and he did recommend me to get the Meg's backing plate so I did when I bought the system, so that's not cause, the only other thing I can think of is my gg da is a tad out of balance, it's been correcting perfectly so I hadn't replaced it, since it's my only da and gets used 7 days a week, but still am lost to what might be causing the issue so i might just have to send it in :(
 
NY946 said:
You are doing something wrong then. Maybe try adding a spray of distilled water after a few passes or a spray of QD. Speed shouldn't be an issue, but see if you get the same results at a lower speed. How large of an area were you working?
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You do know I'm referring to using the MF system with the Flex 3401, correct?
 
I must say, that Lexus you did was drop dead gorgeous. It was my computer background at school. I had no idea you did that with the MF system.
I almost want an 8x10 of it, it's that nice:dblthumb2:
 
Joe, looking great!

If I can get similar durability from these pads as you did I'm gonna be very happy.
 
Mark..what ever happened to the pads/105 experiment? I think it has kinda been proven here that the Megs DA system is really best when used with a PC/MEGS/GRIOTS DA polisher...but not the flex. Even when it was "sent" out to selected few detailers..the system did not finish down well with the Flex. Mark may be on to something though with the pads/105....
 
Nice to see the thoughts on this product. Are you using the finishing wax that comes in the kit or using something else after the compound or even putting something on the car after the finishing wax.
Enjoy all the thoughts on this.
 
Big Ed5150 said:
Nice to see the thoughts on this product. Are you using the finishing wax that comes in the kit or using something else after the compound or even putting something on the car after the finishing wax.
Enjoy all the thoughts on this.
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I just stick with the finishing wax for protection, it's pretty durable. I don't like topping different manufacturers protection, but a lot of people do!
 
Big Ed5150 said:
Nice to see the thoughts on this product. Are you using the finishing wax that comes in the kit or using something else after the compound or even putting something on the car after the finishing wax.
Enjoy all the thoughts on this.
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My paint protection product of choice is Meguiars #20.
 
I played with the megs 5inch MF cutting disc with D300 on my truck on a panel tha thad light marring and scratches from claying and was impressed with the minor defect removal and finish of the compounding step. I did not get much in regaurds to RIDS.

Just checking out my technique with those that have more experience, PCXP - speed 4 3-4 slower rotation - heavy passes followed by 3 -4 lighter rotation - faster passes.

I followed this up with the rotary - grey pad Mnz 85rd and 4 - 6 600x1 - 1000x2 -3 - 600x2- 3passes. I did not appriciate much difference with the menz step inside the garage but my lighting was not perfect to tell how much marring was left by the system.

The marring from claying was light enough that I later removed it with menz 85rd on grey without the compounding step. Other then the claying the truck is in great condition being my personal vehicle... i need to find a better test vehicle.

If I used 6 inch pads what speed would i need on the PCXP to keep the pad rotation correct with moderate pressure?
 
i used the mf system on a blue 330 and love d the cut with the d300 and mf discs. got about 85-90% of the defects out and swirl free. i ended up using 205 w/black pad and bfwd w/a blue pad to finish.

my question is regarding the finishing discs and 301. do you have to clean the disc after every section pass as well? have not tried it yet. this was my process w/cutting disc and d300
 
dreamps said:
my question is regarding the finishing discs and 301. do you have to clean the disc after every section pass as well? have not tried it yet. this was my process w/cutting disc and d300
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It sure wouldn't hurt, but you do not have to clean the finishing discs/d301 after ever section pass like the cutting discs/d300.
 
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