Menzerna PG1000

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Hello

I bought Menzerna PG1000 in November and I made a test spot on my Mercedes (Ceramic clear coat) with Orange pad to remove fine swirls but I didn't cut or removed any swirls. Last week I received Meg's MF pads and D300, D301 what an awesome system it did removed swirls really good. Now the question is Why is the PG1000 not doing anything ? Because I bought the 32oz its almost full :dunno:

BTW my tool is Rupes 21ES
 
Faris63 said:
Why is the PG1000 not doing anything?
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Because PG1000 (PowerGloss) is the old-school Menz compound. It probably did remove your swirls, but put its own back in. An old-school compound like PG leaves hazing that needs to be removed by a finer polish.

The Menz old-school lineup was PG, IP, and FFII. If you had a bottle of each, it was kind of startling how much heavier the bottle of PG was, from all the grit in there.

The D300/D301 is a fantastic combo with a very short learning curve, it's hard to go wrong with that.
 
Did you try with a more aggressive pad or MF?

PG is an old old old formula. Very gritty and dusty.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Because PG1000 (PowerGloss) is the old-school Menz compound. It probably did remove your swirls, but put its own back in. An old-school compound like PG leaves hazing that needs to be removed by a finer polish.

The Menz old-school lineup was PG, IP, and FFII. If you had a bottle of each, it was kind of startling how much heavier the bottle of PG was, from all the grit in there.

The D300/D301 is a fantastic combo with a very short learning curve, it's hard to go wrong with that.
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My bottle of PG1000 sits idle since FG400 and the weight difference is huge. Not to mention its thick like toothpaste and feels like grit whereas the FG400 is creamy and smoother.

The PG1000 is not as friendly to work with either, doesn't cut as hard and doesn't finish as nice. I'm not sure when it would be advantageous, but it is an older formula so maybe it will end up being phased out someday too.
 
Durallymax said:
My bottle of PG1000 sits idle since FG400.

The PG1000 is not as friendly to work with either, doesn't cut as hard and doesn't finish as nice. I'm not sure when it would be advantageous, but it is an older formula so maybe it will end up being phased out someday too.
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Well, it's almost half the price of FG400, so I'm sure that is where it fits in, and probably the reason the OP chose it over FG400. The reality of course it that, as you noted, FG400 is going to make up for its price disadvantage by working faster and requiring less steps.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Well, it's almost half the price of FG400, so I'm sure that is where it fits in, and probably the reason the OP chose it over FG400. The reality of course it that, as you noted, FG400 is going to make up for its price disadvantage by working faster and requiring less steps.
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True, I bought it before buying FG400 too. After using both, I think the FG400 would more than pay for itself in ease of use and speed. Win some loose some, it sucks, but I know the OP's position too of having a full bottle sitting there doing nothing, feels like wasted money. Could find a local body guy that may like it for buffing fresh paint though.
 
Thanks guys for help

Andr3wilson said:
Did you try with a more aggressive pad or MF?

PG is an old old old formula. Very gritty and dusty.
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I tried MF pads same results as foam pads I used LC orange pad

I wish I knew that before I'll order FG400 soon
 
Faris63 said:
Thanks guys for help



I tried MF pads same results as foam pads I used LC orange pad

I wish I knew that before I'll order FG400 soon
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I'm surprised it is still being sold. It's old school stuff. There's a bunch of new compounds on the market that are leaps and bounds ahead of yesterday.
 
The only time I can justify using it is with light colored gelcoat. The only reason I try and find a use for it is because I hate to just let something sit on the shelf.
 
I am in the same predicament.... have a completely unused bottle of PG1000 sitting on the shelf.

:doh:
 
Is the Menzerna SI 1500, FF 3000, and SF 4500 good products?
Or are they just way behind things like Meg's 105 & 205?
 
I was working on an older Infinity paint a while back. I reached for the "newer" SMAT technology polishes like 101, 105, 205 and nothing worked regardless of what pad or even if I went rotary.

I took a break and was beyond puzzled. Then I did some searching on Autogeeks forums and saw someone had some success with the Menzerna old school diminishing abrasive technology.

I would have not though of it myself but I pulled out my old PG, SIP, and FPII polishes. I didn't even have to use the PG since SIP cleaned it up well and the final polish brought everything back.

So yes, if you work on different types of paints you may find a need for those polishes someday.

Shoot-I still have some old school Meguiars 83 and 80 in my arsenal and like to use it on single stage paints.
 
DAT polishes were just fine for forever until the SMAT came around. Its not that old school! SMAT is the winner for compounding but DAT definitely have their place for finishing. I have had a 1/2 full quart of PG sitting since M105 appeared on the scene. I keep saying I'll use it up on some basket case of a car but no opportunity yet.
 
So, is Meg's 105 & 205 the winners hands down?

Are the newer iterations of Merzena worth a hoot?
 
shagnat said:
anyone else user the newer versions of Merzerna?
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All the time.

Fg400 / pf2500/ sf4000 are my go to polishes and have worked on almost every car I have done

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lawrenceSA said:
All the time.

Fg400 / pf2500/ sf4000 are my go to polishes and have worked on almost every car I have done

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X2 my three most used. Pf2500 is a great one step.

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Actually I should say I use PF2500 when I simply don't need the cut of FG400. Depending on the tool, pad and technique FG400 finishes LSP ready. Even with wool on a rotary it's LSP ready for enough of the stuff I do which is single stage paint on semis and equipment. The owners want shine, the minimal holograms left they don't notice because before I started their paint usually was a big blob of oxidation with no reflection at all. Under fluorescents I have a hard time seeing a big difference with the SF4000 after FG400 but under the sun you can tell.

Working on a tractor right now with very thin paint in some spots so I have two hybrid orange pads for the 3401 set up. One for SF2500 in the light spots and/or spots that don't need as much cut and one with FG400 for the bad spots that have enough paint.


All of these have a very long working time with no dust. However some people do not like the strong solvent smell of them. After doing an entire vehicle with minimal ventilation it sometimes gets to you.

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Thanks for all the replies..... I had just bought the 3 products mentioned and was hoping they were at least "pretty good" if not better :)

Now, if it ever quits raining and the temp gets above 50* I've got some work to do...... good work too.
 
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