Menzerna SF4000 OR SF4500?? On soft paint!!!

Radarryan said:
(Sonus PF)
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Radarryan said:
Sonus PF
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Please note in the posts above: I meant to say Sonax PF (Perfect Finish), not Sonus. Sorry, those German car care companies sound alike! I need to refresh my Deutsch.

Also, what are people's opinion of Sonax Profiline Nano Polish? Mike mentioned this in an earlier post (page 1) in the same breath as Menz SF4500. Opinions? Comparisons?
 
Radarryan said:
I know what you mean man... They're rough. Are the crimson LC pads equivalent to a grey or blue flat or CCS pad? I've heard good things about the crimson pads for finishing, so maybe I'll have to pick up or two for finishing on my paint. I'm sure I could bump the pad to green or white with 4500 if I needed a little extra bite, but then again, I'm sure the same could be said about Sonus PF. Ah, decisions decisions. I am thankful I have this forum and its members to bounce things off of. Thank you all!
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Crimson pads are 'ultra fine' finishing pads compared to the black (grey) 'finishing' and blue 'fine finishing'. In one particular instance I was using M205 on a blue finishing pad on a black 911 turbo and it still left marring! It blew my mind... I could never own a car with paint that sensitive.
 
zmcgovern45 said:
Crimson pads are 'ultra fine' finishing pads compared to the black (grey) 'finishing' and blue 'fine finishing'. In one particular instance I was using M205 on a blue finishing pad on a black 911 turbo and it still left marring! It blew my mind... I could never own a car with paint that sensitive.
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Yeah man, I know what you mean. I'm not saying I don't love my car, but I sure don't love how soft the paint is. Really makes the joy of detailing my car more a labor, rather than a labor of love.

So in your opinion, and experience, a good combo is Menzerna SF4500 coupled with a crimson hydro-tech foam ultra finishing pad? Maybe start with SF4500 on a grey or blue pad for any defect removal before moving to the hydro-tech?

On a car the size of my 911 Cab, do you think I could get alway with one crimson pad (remember no roof since convertible) while cleaning on the fly, or is it best to have two or more?

Thank you for your help/input!
 
I worked with SF4500 in a ultra soft black paint, and it finished really well.
The problem I found was that, as it is very oily when I go to remove it, I need to pass the microfibre more often to clean it well, and with that I can cause small damage, and need to repeat again in some areas.
 
PedroMalheiro said:
I worked with SF4500 in a ultra soft black paint, and it finished really well.
The problem I found was that, as it is very oily when I go to remove it, I need to pass the microfibre more often to clean it well, and with that I can cause small damage, and need to repeat again in some areas.
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You may have to work it more since it's a DAT. The longer you work it the more it breaks down and easier to remove.
 
From what I've heard, Sonax Perfect Finish needs to be used with a rotary for the abrasives to work as intended. SF4000 can be used with a DA or rotary with great results.
 
lawrenceSA said:
For what it is worth, I polished out a Subaru this past weekend with soft paint which was really trashed to start with, and used SF4000 on a crimson pad for most of the car.

Results can be seen here http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/67270-obsidian-black-subaru-impreza-sti-detailed-lawrence.html

Hope this helps you make a decision.
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Great results! I know one thing for sure: I need some crimson finishing pads regardless of if I use SF4000 or 4500!
 
Theostoubos said:
SF4500 is by far my most favorite polish. Here i used it with a crimson LC hydro pad on a Flex PE 14-2

This is a Black 944 Turbo that I did a few months ago. It finished very well IMO.

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Roof reflection

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Can you share your entire process on this one? I haven't seen black this glossy and glassy in ages!
 
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