MFCS vs. Surbuf

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for those who have used both, what are your opinions both pro and cons of each? also, do you plan on using one more than the other, using both, or staying with just one? which do you prefer overall?

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I'd also like to know the answer to this. I currently use lots of surbuf pads and love them (except the longevity) but would love to know how they stack up against the MF pads.
 
I'm in as well..... What's the deal???????

Feed back please
 
AG needs to make a seperate area on the forums to post about the Micro Fiber pad system .
 
Both pads will have their purpose. I don't plan on removing either from my supply any time soon.
 
Both pads will have their purpose. I don't plan on removing either from my supply any time soon.

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These are both "tools" in your detailing tool arsenal.

Keep in mind that with all the feedback being collected that chances are good you'll see some new additions and/or improvements to the system, which includes both pads and chemicals.


:)
 
When would you use SB instead of MF?


If you absolutely have to polish out 1000 grit sanding marks, then go with a Surbuf. The most I've pulled out with a MF pad was 1500. However, the finish isn't even close. MF wins will a big margin.

In tighter areas, I like the MF pads. The Surbuf fingers tend to curl over when one applies pressure. A MF pad with a properly sized backing plate works well with pressure.

If an owner wants a single step polish, the MF pad is the one to get.
 
If an owner wants a single step polish, the MF pad is the one to get.
That's mostly what I do. Perfect.

I think KB said to buy the Meg's 6" backing plate and cut it down to 5.5" for full support so the MF pads don't curl?
 
If an owner wants a single step polish, the MF pad is the one to get.
On some paint, from what I hear. There are a lot of finishes out there that won't finish even close to LSP ready with the compounding pad. Just from what I've seen.
 
If an owner wants a single step polish, the MF pad is the one to get.[/QUOTE]



if this is the case what product would you use for a one step?

now that i think about it ... the compund will probably leave behind some haze as i have read and the polish is hardly abrasive ... so 151?
 
Leave a little haze and remove more defects, or remove less defects and be more shiny? I'll take the first?

If an owner wants a single step polish, the MF pad is the one to get.



if this is the case what product would you use for a one step?

now that i think about it ... the compund will probably leave behind some haze as i have read and the polish is hardly abrasive ... so 151?[/QUOTE]



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There are a lot of finishes out there that won't finish even close to LSP ready with the compounding pad. Just from what I've seen.

While that is definitely a possibility, the MF pads will finish down better than a Surbuf. If a MF pad left it hazy, the Surbuf pads would leave the finish more hazy.
 
I know this will sound like a lame cop-out (no pun intended), but they are both tools and tools work for different people differently. I may love the new Megs system and you may hate it. In fact when I tried M105 for the first time, I hated it...now I love it. If you have a DA, which is what the surbuff and new Megs system is designed for, then you should see if you can try both. I use a rotary for correction but for giggles, I tried my surbuff (hadn't used it yet) with my DA and some M105. It was a nasty scratch that I was chasing and it got rid of it. Very impressive combo. I was not as impressed seeing the level of correction with the new Megs system. M105 is a very powerful tool and can be improvised depending on what pad it's used for. Try both, but I believe that surbuff+M105 is an awesome correcting tool.
 
While that is definitely a possibility, the MF pads will finish down better than a Surbuf. If a MF pad left it hazy, the Surbuf pads would leave the finish more hazy.
If they both have to be followed up then why does it matter? Just wondering. I would want to use the combo that removes the most defects. I understand Surbuf will be overkill for some vehicles, but on the other hand the MF system won't be aggressive enough.
 
:iagree:


These are both "tools" in your detailing tool arsenal.

Keep in mind that with all the feedback being collected that chances are good you'll see some new additions and/or improvements to the system, which includes both pads and chemicals.


:)

If I may, one suggestion would be to develop a polish that finishes soft dark paints as efficiently as po85rd, po106fa. ...Yes, I've tried 205.
 
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