MFCS vs. Surbuf

[RaskyR1]

Both pads will have their purpose. I don't plan on removing either from my supply any time soon.

Exactly!!!



This was interesting Chris....I actually did two test spots on a black 2005 Passat last night. One side with Surbuf/M105 and the other MF/D300. To keep things equal I used both on the PCXP, Speed 6. With the Surbuf I used light pressure to keep the fingers from curling, on the MF side I used moderate pressure....


After inspecting the areas the D300/MF side actually appeared to have removed more defects, but it left the finish a little "foggy" looking. The Surbuf/M105 side had several RIDS still showing but the finish looked more black. This was the exact opposite of what I've experienced so far and it just goes to show you not all paints are the same. The speed 6 may have had something to do with how the D300 finished, I will have to go back this weekend and try it on the recommended setting.


When I have time to edit and load up the video I'll post it here. Probably not until next week though.

Rasky

 

[Spicy McHaggis]

Exactly!!!



This was interesting Chris....I actually did two test spots on a black 2005 Passat last night. One side with Surbuf/M105 and the other MF/D300. To keep things equal I used both on the PCXP, Speed 6. With the Surbuf I used light pressure to keep the fingers from curling, on the MF side I used moderate pressure....


After inspecting the areas the D300/MF side actually appeared to have removed more defects, but it left the finish a little "foggy" looking. The Surbuf/M105 side had several RIDS still showing but the finish looked more black. This was the exact opposite of what I've experienced so far and it just goes to show you not all paints are the same. The speed 6 may have had something to do with how the D300 finished, I will have to go back this weekend and try it on the recommended setting.


When I have time to edit and load up the video I'll post it here. Probably not until next week though.

Rasky

Awesome test Rasky! That just shows that all paints aren't the same and you need to use what works best for you and the specific paint you are working on. Great job! rops:

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

The speed 6 may have had something to do with how the D300 finished, I will have to go back this weekend and try it on the recommended setting.

That might be a good idea Rasky!!! :xyxthumbs:

What size surbuf pad did you use?

 

[RaskyR1]

That might be a good idea Rasky!!! :xyxthumbs:

What size surbuf pad did you use?

6" pads for both.

I was surprised to see the D300 remove more defects, but the high speed and heavier pressure was a factor I'm sure. I also removed some wet sanding scratches with M105 and a 3" MF cutting pad, which cut and finished very well! I may try that on a larger MF pad too as the car has a lot of RIDS.

I'm going to be pressed for time finishing it Saturday so I don't know how much messing around I'll be able to do, but I'll try to get a couple more videos. :xyxthumbs:

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

6" pads for both.

I was surprised to see the D300 remove more defects, but the high speed and heavier pressure was a factor I'm sure.

Yeah, I would guess at speed 4, not as many defects would have been removed, but it would probably have finished better. I'm pretty curious.

 

[richy]

Chad: very, very interesting post!! I am amazed to see this result. I based my opinion on seeing your videos showing the corrective abilities of the new system at the recommended settings. It is very interesting to see bumping up the speed increases its cut, and more importantly, to ABOVE that of what M105 is capable of. Hmmmm. Looking forward to hearing more about this for sure.

 

[rfinkle2]

I read on MOL, and I'm not sure it will happen frequently, that the pad may separate if used above its recommended opm settings.

Just use a little caution when using the pad out of its recommenced speed range. (I guess)

 

[RaskyR1]

Chad: very, very interesting post!! I am amazed to see this result. I based my opinion on seeing your videos showing the corrective abilities of the new system at the recommended settings. It is very interesting to see bumping up the speed increases its cut, and more importantly, to ABOVE that of what M105 is capable of. Hmmmm. Looking forward to hearing more about this for sure.

I was actually VERY surprised to see the results myself, as every other car I'd worked on had the opposite effect. I'll see if I can throw the video together tonight....wife may get upset with me though as it's Friday and she's finally done with the bar exam!

I read on MOL, and I'm not sure it will happen frequently, that the pad may separate if used above its recommended opm settings.

Just use a little caution when using the pad out of its recommenced speed range. (I guess)

Yes. My results on this car were definitely not the norm, and polishing on speed 6 for extended periods of time will shorten the life of the MF pads, along with almost any other pad out there.

 

[jimmyjam]

I don't want this thread to go side ways, but I have a quick question. What backing plate do I need for the Megs MF system? I have the Flex 3401, and I seen the Megs video and they mentioned that the Megs BP was for optimum performance.

 

[RaskyR1]

I don't want this thread to go side ways, but I have a quick question. What backing plate do I need for the Megs MF system? I have the Flex 3401, and I seen the Megs video and they mentioned that the Megs BP was for optimum performance.

You don't really have a choice with the Flex right now as the Meguiar's backing plates won't work with that polisher, nor will any of the LC backing plates.

The backing plate on the Flex will be fine, just check the pad often to make sure it's not getting too hot.

 

[jimmyjam]

You don't really have a choice with the Flex right now as the Meguiar's backing plates won't work with that polisher, nor will any of the LC backing plates.

The backing plate on the Flex will be fine, just check the pad often to make sure it's not getting too hot.

Thank you!