Most regretted detailing product purchase

The Guz said:
You don't need to wait days in between additional coats. 45 min to 1 hour is what is recommended by CarPro. Also Reload can be applied 1 hour after the last coat of CQUK. It is recommended to wait at least 7 days before it gets wet or is washed. Reload is there to protect the coating in case it gets rained on sooner than later. I don't use Reload as it lacks the hydrophobics of Cquartz. But at the same time I am not too concerned with Rain as it does not rain here in Southern California.

What was your prep?

I have been enjoying CQUK 3.0 and and TiO2 and have been having very good results.
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I got to thinking about how I did it, and I waited an hour, actually a little over, and then applied the second coat. Not sure why I said I waited 24 hours for the second coat.

I waited as long as I could after the coating, which was 3 days, might have been 4 for all I remember LOL! But I needed to drive it, so I pulled it out and applied the Reload then. I did that more because rain was in the forecast, which happened the day after I used Reload.

I followed the directions that Carpro put out for applying the coatings. I also used their applicator sponge thing with the cloth or whatever those things are that goes over it. I don't know, maybe I did something else wrong?

I am sure I'll try something again down the road. For now, I'll just maintain the Wolfgang paint sealant that's on both my vehicle's now.



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minerigger said:
Guz serious question, 3.0 with gliss or the Ti02...which one di you prefer and why

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Personal preference. They are both good. TiO2 will give more reflectivity because of the TiO2 with in the SiO2 mixture. CQUK 3.0 will form the hard layer between the two but don't buy too much into the hardness.
 
swanicyouth said:
Your simply not following directions. Not the directions on the bottle (they’re BS) - but the uber super secret directions that are only mentioned by a guy on a forum via a post I can no longer find. Mods deleted it because it mentioned a brand of special coating towel they don’t sell.
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Your recent posts have been very witty and entertaining, just the right amount of common sense without being offensive. A much needed breath of fresh air or reality check if you will... I can dig it.
 
Jetseal Matte from Chemical Guys is the worst product I’ve ever bought. Regardless of how it is applied, it leaves streaks and swirls that are extremely difficult to get off, regardless of technique. Terrible product.
 
Ryobi said:
Jetseal Matte from Chemical Guys is the worst product I’ve ever bought. Regardless of how it is applied, it leaves streaks and swirls that are extremely difficult to get off, regardless of technique. Terrible product.
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You must be pissed.
 
Ryobi said:
Jetseal Matte from Chemical Guys is the worst product I’ve ever bought. Regardless of how it is applied, it leaves streaks and swirls that are extremely difficult to get off, regardless of technique. Terrible product.
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The regular version of Jet Seal is also terrible. Not so much for streaking, just terrible durability.
 
Right now I’d have to say the Griot’s G9. Trying to like it but keep feeling I tossed $150 down the toilet. It does have more power but more vibration than my PC. Between the vibration and the heat around the brushes, very disappointed.
 
Texchappy said:
Right now I’d have to say the Griot’s G9. Trying to like it but keep feeling I tossed $150 down the toilet. It does have more power but more vibration than my PC. Between the vibration and the heat around the brushes, very disappointed.
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Are you within the return if not happy period? If the problem continues, maybe to to customer service and return it.
 
Regrets, I've had a few
But then again too few to mention - BS, but I'll confine it to detailing products...

Griot's older foam sprayer - leaked - so did the second one.

BeadMaker phew, certainly did not live up to the hype. Got close to a gallon and will box it up with a 1/2 dozen or so products that are ok, but I'm not gonna use. Anyone in NE NJ wants to stop by and pick them up, send me a PM.

Griot's Glass Cleaner - Griot's Wheel Cleaner - not a real regret, they work perfectly fine, just nuthin' special.

Griot's new Wheel Wash Mitts, not as thick as I was expecting, so I'll repurpose them for something (god only knows what).

Not picking on Griot's. it's just that I have way more off their products then anyone else's. All things being equal, few companies hit all home runs and I remain a very happy GG customer.
 
Sonax net shield
Armourall tire coating
1st version of Carpro Reload
 
bob m said:
Are you within the return if not happy period? If the problem continues, maybe to to customer service and return it.
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Yes. Believe I’ve still got a month and a half. I keep giving it a try and making sure I’m doing thing correctly with it - bigger gauge extension, holding it differently, letting it cool down after each small section. Everyone on here (though not on the sister forum) seems to love it and is convinced I’m doing it wrong (see the vibration thread started by someone else). Find myself using my PC with 3” on larger and larger sections.

Add Black Wow to the list - even though I really like it’s creator.
Also disappointed I didn’t get to Opt Hyperpolish before it solidified.
 
Texchappy said:
Yes. Believe I’ve still got a month and a half. I keep giving it a try and making sure I’m doing thing correctly with it - bigger gauge extension, holding it differently, letting it cool down after each small section. Everyone on here (though not on the sister forum) seems to love it and is convinced I’m doing it wrong (see the vibration thread started by someone else). Find myself using my PC with 3” on larger and larger sections.

Add Black Wow to the list - even though I really like it’s creator.
Also disappointed I didn’t get to Opt Hyperpolish before it solidified.
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I don't think anything you do at this point will change your mind.

Return it if you can and try something else.
 
Oh, given a little more thought, something else came to mind, echoing an earlier post, MTM Foam Cannon and associated foam shampoosky. It worked as it should - shooting up that foam, but too much set up with the PW, fittings and hose and not an inexpensive item to boot. That just may go on Craigslist.
 
Texchappy said:
Right now I’d have to say the Griot’s G9. Trying to like it but keep feeling I tossed $150 down the toilet. It does have more power but more vibration than my PC. Between the vibration and the heat around the brushes, very disappointed.
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bob m said:
Are you within the return if not happy period? If the problem continues, maybe to to customer service and return it.
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Agree with Bob. Griot's will gladly listen to you and most certainly will offer to replace it.

I have the G9 and the vibration is minimal IMO. And I have not found it to get overly hot.

It is entirely possible that you received a defective unit, Tex. But that is the good thing about Griot's. A 100% lifetime guarantee. No BS.

Give them a call, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. :)
 
Gallon of ShineSupply Clutch. Not that I don’t like it it’s actually a nice LSP.

Just I didn’t realize how much a gallon of LSP is and cost me $150

With my curiosity of other toppers just won’t use it all.


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M37 365 Ceramic Spray Coating. It came out at the time when TW Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray, WG Ceramic Spray Coating, and numerous others came out. It’s by far the lesser in all categories compared to the rivals. It says it likes a bare, prepped surface, as do the others obviously. And I haven’t even gotten a month out of 365 before performance is awful... usually only 2-3 weeks. And the others are more forgiving when used as toppers (not as far as streaking but as far as performance and longevity. Maybe I got a bad bottle, and I bought 3 on some mega sale hoping that M37 couldn’t make a bad product. But their ceramic line was disappointing, and 365 is the main highlight of the lineup and probably the worst.

At 22oz per bottle I’ve been using this on everything I don’t care about (toppers on old wheels, glass, door jambs, or just as a drying aid when I’m not in love with my LSP of choice. It disappoints in all cases and is definitely not worth the pain of using on door jambs.
 
TW Graphene Flex Wax and TW Seal and Shine (old version) have been considerable disappointments for me.

Flex Wax- I have applied the Flex Wax (1-2 sprays per panel) using both a square mf applicator and and it was always a streaky mess, regardless of the amount of product I used, ambient temperature and humidity, and tc.; tried a LC coating applicator, but experienced the same results. Flashed/dried way too quick and I always had to use the damp mf towel recommendation to remove which, combined with the effort trying to remove with a dry mf, is too much towel contact for freshly-polished paint for my liking. This product was just generally way too user-unfriendly, to the point that it was almost as bad an experience as when I used the first version of Blackfire Crystal Coat. To top it off, the protection was visually non-existent after about a week and it looked like nothing was even on the panel, if judging by the slow water sheeting. I made the mistake of purchasing two bottles of this stuff and Pepboys is refusing to accept a return for the unused bottle without a receipt, so I am stuck with it.

Seal and Shine- this had decent (nothing that stood out) short term water behavior and protection like all the YouTube videos and internet reviews and whatnot. However, under real world conditions for a car that is not garaged, is sparsely driven, and is washed bi weekly it looked like it was barely present after a month or two. When I performed my annual detail to the car I applied S&S to a panel of, I applied several other products on the other panels at the same time and they are holding up much better. I will concede that I used the old version though and that the new version may be better.

These are just my real world experiences.
 
Griot's Garage Blue Detail Sponges. They left blue bits of foam all over my seats when using them to apply Griot's 3in1 leather spray. I called them up for a refund on those.
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Another vote for Turtle Wax Seal N Shine.

Product loses gloss until after the first wash. Water behavior is just ok and real world longevity is only 1-2mo at most.

I'll throw the whole Hybrid Solutions line in here too. Wet Wax is the only good thing there and that is a dust and pollen magnet.

Meguiar's Fast Finish wasn't great either.

Pretty much every version of CarPro Reload.

I either gave all these away or dumped them.
 
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