New Compound... Optimum Hyper 2015 or 3D AAT?

VP Mark said:
Got a chance to use the new compound on a hood today, very nice product. Cuts FAST finishes really well, and wipes off like a breeze. So far, so good.
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Is that the new new compound or the old compound new intensive polish? LOL. :)
 
New compound and intensive polish.

The intensive polish is not the old compound, I used it on a Corvette yesterday and it was busting swirls easily and finishing excellent. The old compound I never used much because it hazed a lot.

I don't mind the changing of colors ect. that Optimum does when releasing new formulas. Every time they bring out a new generation of polishes they are markedly improved over the last
 
VP Mark said:
The intensive polish is not the old compound, I used it on a Corvette yesterday and it was busting swirls easily and finishing excellent. The old compound I never used much because it hazed a lot.
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Huh? You mean the Intensive Polish is not the old (blue) compound, right? Because on the Optimum forum they explained with the introduction of the new (white) Hyper Compound, that the previous (orange) Hyper Compound was being renamed Intensive Polish.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Huh? You mean the Intensive Polish is not the old (blue) compound, right? Because on the Optimum forum they explained with the introduction of the new (white) Hyper Compound, that the previous (orange) Hyper Compound was being renamed Intensive Polish.
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This is the maddening thing about OPT. Seems their information is ever-changing, in a very confusing manner. And just to throw another wrench into the fire, here's the email that OPT sent out about the changes a couple weeks ago:

Optimum Polymer Technologies said:
New Product Announcement:

The New Optimum Hyper Compound is the fastest cutting compound in the marketplace that leaves a great finish with minor marring. The new Hyper Compound is the only compound that can remove 1,000 grit or finer scratches in 1-2 passes using the new Hyper Wool Foam Pad on Zentool DA Polisher. Follow up Hyper Compound with Hyper Polish and the New Black Waffle Foam Pad for a perfect finish with one or two passes.

The previous version of Hyper Compound is still available and has been renamed as Optimum Intensive Polish which is a great product for one step compounding that leaves a great finish.
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According to "Ron@Optimum" on the OPT forum:

Ron@Optimum said:
This is a total reformulation of Hyper Compound to increase it's cut. The previous formula Hyper Compound has been renamed Intensive Polish and as you said, it slots between the 2 Hypers. The original Hyper products were specifically designed for the body shop market but not limited to them. The new wool pad may be used with rotary or DA and depending on the polish and/or machine (and speed) it can used for heavy correction or to finish (though probably not a "fine finish").
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I don't know, everything you posted there was consistent--it was VP Mark who said "the Intensive Polish is not the old Compound"...I have to believe that he never got the "new" orange compound because he said "The old compound I never used much because it hazed a lot."

PS I guess the "maddening" thing to me is that they weren't thinking far enough ahead to know that they were going to be adding the new (white) Hyper Compound and just call the orange one Intensive Polish last year when they changed it from blue.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I don't know, everything you posted there was consistent--it was VP Mark who said "the Intensive Polish is not the old Compound"...I have to believe that he never got the "new" orange compound because he said "The old compound I never used much because it hazed a lot."

PS I guess the "maddening" thing to me is that they weren't thinking far enough ahead to know that they were going to be adding the new (white) Hyper Compound and just call the orange one Intensive Polish last year when they changed it from blue.
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I swear someone from OPT posted recently saying the Intensive polish was tweaked when it changed from Hyper Compound to Intensive. Can't find it yet though.

I guess it's not the varying information so much as the constant name change. How many times has Opti-Coat been renamed? Then you've got Optimum Protectant Plus, re-named to Leather Protectant, and now I think it's back to OPP. And here in this thread we're talking about all the various compound and polish names & formulas.

I'll climb off my soap box now.
 
I agree with you, a lot of name changing and product changing...but isn't that pretty much the norm in this business? I'm not sure how much of it is new technology and how much is just to generate some churn. I thought I was being smart when I picked up a half gallon of the old blue compound when it was being blown out for $25 (I thought I was being even smarter by ordering a matching half gallon of the old pink polish, but even though it showed as available it was sold out).

At the time I thought if I had a cheap half gallon of compound and polish, I could convince myself to throw out all my old polishes that I've been collecting for the last 10+ years...but that didn't work. So now I'm stuck with a half gallon of blue Hyper Compound that I'll probably never use (since I also have a spray bottle that's half full). At least I have the little bottles of the crème polishes.

I guess you pros can wind up in the same place even though you use a lot more product, if you're buying gallons, etc.

Oh...and I guess I should ask about this:

VP Mark said:
The intensive polish...I used it on a Corvette yesterday and it was busting swirls easily and finishing excellent.
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Did you follow with something else? Or was the finish adequate on that hard Corvette paint?
 
Totally misinformed on the opti-coat.net website; it states intensive polish is a NEW product. Well, how is it NEW, if it's a renamed version of the previous hyper compound?
 
Just got information from a reliable source at Optimum. Blue is still hyper polish; unchanged. The previous orange hyper compound is RENAMED to Intensive polish. The white hyper compound is a brand new formulation.
 
E92M3_Mark said:
Just got information from a reliable source at Optimum. Blue is still hyper polish; unchanged. The previous orange hyper compound is RENAMED to Intensive polish. The white hyper compound is a brand new formulation.
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Thanks for the confirmation Mark. :dblthumb2:
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Did you follow with something else? Or was the finish adequate on that hard Corvette paint?
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It finished great, just as good as regular Hyper Polish. Looking forward to trying it on a Black BMW Monday to see if it will finish as well on a softer clear.

If the new Intensive Polish is the old hyper compound renamed then I would like to hear that directly from Dr. G, other wise I will not believe it. It has a completely different consistency, smell, does not haze like the old hyper compound did, and is much easier to remove.
 
VP Mark said:
It finished great, just as good as regular Hyper Polish. Looking forward to trying it on a Black BMW Monday to see if it will finish as well on a softer clear.

If the new Intensive Polish is the old hyper compound renamed then I would like to hear that directly from Dr. G, other wise I will not believe it. It has a completely different consistency, smell, does not haze like the old hyper compound did, and is much easier to remove.
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The information I posted came straight from Optimum. I'd be very interested to hear what Dr. G says though. You can call him at (901) 363-4955. Please report back so we all have a final answer on this.
 
VP Mark said:
If the new Intensive Polish is the old hyper compound renamed then I would like to hear that directly from Dr. G, other wise I will not believe it. .
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So, 4 different employees of OPT are going to lie?
 
E92M3_Mark said:
So, 4 different employees of OPT are going to lie?
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Did you hear it from Dr. G? He is the one that actually creates the formulas.

And how did we go from "a reliable source at Optimum" to "4 different employees?" Genuinely curious, not trying to pick a fight.
 
E92M3_Mark said:
And he wouldn't enlighten his employees?


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That really wasn't my question at all. Guess I will contact Dr. G Monday and ask him personally.
 
E92M3_Mark said:
And he wouldn't enlighten his employees?


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depends on who you talk to. i'll leave it at that.

Dr. G is the most reliable source, bar none.

my worthless feeling is intensive is based on what you think it's based on, just modified.
 
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