New ONR Hyper Foam

Setec Astronomy said:
If I ever try Preludio, I would start with a much more diluted mix for a pre-spray. I mean when we use rinseless washes as pre-spray, most of us use them at the standard dilution, or maybe twice the concentration (1:256 or 1:128).

Thinking about my FoamNR results from yesterday, again, I wasn't doing a side-by-side with any other products, but it certainly did an adequate job for what I would be looking for as a pre-spray before a rinseless wash. Whether it's worth having, meaning did it do a better job at that than regular ONR, etc., I don't know. Honestly I don't think I've ever looked that closely, because of course usually I'm pre-spraying and then moving on to the wash. I've never been a big presprayer, anyway, but I seem to be changing my ways.
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Optimum makes a Touchless Decon ONR that is more ideal for pre-wash.

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Although I have wonder how it cuts being the pH is neutral.
 
CleanIT said:
Optimum makes a Touchless Decon ONR that is more ideal for pre-wash.

Although I have wonder how it cuts being the pH is neutral.
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Except that's not a rinseless product--although there is some disagreement about that between the reps on the Optimum forum.
 
CleanIT said:
Optimum makes a Touchless Decon ONR that is more ideal for pre-wash.

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Optimum Touchless Decontamination Car Wash

Optimum Touchless Decontamination Car Wash pH Neutral Formula Optimum Touchless Decon Wash is an extremely powerful and versatile touch free car wash and heavy duty decontamination soap. It combines several essential auto detailing functions into one extra strength formula. It serves as a touch...
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Although I have wonder how it cuts being the pH is neutral.
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Yeah that’s a pre wash applied with foam cannon


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Bel Lavoro really likes the ONR Foam. Mostly positive reviews so far. Saw one negative.

"ONR Hyper Foam is phenomenal! Fist off, 32oz bottles instead of 16oz which is the sweet spot for me. I don't always want a gallon but I pretty much never want small 16oz bottles. Cleans good, pretty slick, not as slick as ethos or Armour, but it contains no ceramic polymers so you get great foam. DIY Rinseless V2 probably the closest comparable product to give you an idea. The foam is really good when used at that dilution and you can also use it as a pre wash or wash soap, similar to ADG Wipeout but with much better concentrations. Optimum killed it though I'm not surprised because that company knows their chemicals across the board."
 
CleanIT said:
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I am really torn on trying this, and I guess my hangup is what others have mentioned; what to do about the foam in panel seams, etc, like the honeycomb grilles on the hood he just washed in the video

I was thinking about it as a winter prespray followed up by a traditional rinseless but I am concerned about how much wetter your rinseless wash media would have to be to flush out the lingering foam in the cracks and crevices

I would love to see it sprayed on a crusty vertical panel and left to dwell and see just how much gunk it would soften and start to lift off

I guess I will have to order some and try it and see
 
chilly said:
I am really torn on trying this, and I guess my hangup is what others have mentioned; what to do about the foam in panel seams, etc, like the honeycomb grilles on the hood he just washed in the video

I was thinking about it as a winter prespray followed up by a traditional rinseless but I am concerned about how much wetter your rinseless wash media would have to be to flush out the lingering foam in the cracks and crevices

I would love to see it sprayed on a crusty vertical panel and left to dwell and see just how much gunk it would soften and start to lift off

I guess I will have to order some and try it and see
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See AMMO NYC seems to have something added to it to make the foam disappear, I used to use it but got impatient with waiting for the foam to go away, so I stopped using it

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chilly said:
I am really torn on trying this, and I guess my hangup is what others have mentioned; what to do about the foam in panel seams, etc, like the honeycomb grilles on the hood he just washed in the video

I was thinking about it as a winter prespray followed up by a traditional rinseless but I am concerned about how much wetter your rinseless wash media would have to be to flush out the lingering foam in the cracks and crevices

I would love to see it sprayed on a crusty vertical panel and left to dwell and see just how much gunk it would soften and start to lift off

I guess I will have to order some and try it and see
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Once I'm out of DIY I am likely going to try either the latest ONR, ONR Foam and OPT Decon Wash.

I have to say though that I've gotten great results from every RW I've used. We are in a drought here in the NE and today I decided to use Ech20 1:200. Hood had bird bombs was relatively dirty. Came out great.

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CleanIT said:
Once I'm out of DIY I am likely going to try either the latest ONR, ONR Foam and OPT Decon Wash.

I have to say though that I've gotten great results from every RW I've used. We are in a drought here in the NE and today I decided to use Ech20 1:200. Hood had bird bombs was relatively dirty. Came out great.

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What do you really want and/or need your RW to do?

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Klasse Act said:
See AMMO NYC seems to have something added to it to make the foam disappear, I used to use it but got impatient with waiting for the foam to go away, so I stopped using it

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Watching him wiping and mopping that foam around was painful

I certainly have enough towels to do that but it would be so time consuming and messy

I’m thinking that foaming it on, letting it dwell, and then using the garden sprayer to start rinsing it off and then doing a RW would get most if not all of it off

The critical thing for me would be how much it breaks the heavy stuff down and allows the prespray to carry most or at least some of it away

Trying to think this through


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Klasse Act said:
What do you really want and/or need your RW to do?

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Great question. Most important is clean well, dry well/easy and leave nothing behind. However, Ech20 leaves such a slick, glossy feel to the paint that I also like it as a RW. I've primarily used Ech20 as a QD. I'd like to see someone really test Ech20's cleaning power. It seems good enough to me.
 
CleanIT said:
Great question. Most important is clean well, dry well/easy and leave nothing behind. However, Ech20 leaves such a slick, glossy feel to the paint that I also like it as a RW. I've primarily used Ech20 as a QD. I'd like to see someone really test Ech20's cleaning power. It seems good enough to me.
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I've basically used Ech2o only as a RW, too tricky as a WW, extra buffing was something I didn't wanna do. If you want ONE RW that adds gloss & protection, you can't do much better than Ech2o, maybe Labocosmetica Idrosave

As far as a pure cleaner, you really can't do better than Feynlab RW v3! I've said it many times and I'll say it again about Feynlab RW..."You can SEE the clean", it's the best way to describe it and when you use it, you'll see what I mean

There's other products, in each of the 2 categories that are pretty close to my 2 choices here but if could only have 2, it would be Ech2o & Feynlab

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chilly said:
Watching him wiping and mopping that foam around was painful

I certainly have enough towels to do that but it would be so time consuming and messy

I’m thinking that foaming it on, letting it dwell, and then using the garden sprayer to start rinsing it off and then doing a RW would get most if not all of it off

The critical thing for me would be how much it breaks the heavy stuff down and allows the prespray to carry most or at least some of it away

Trying to think this through


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Your correct about the messy part!

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chilly said:
I am really torn on trying this, and I guess my hangup is what others have mentioned; what to do about the foam in panel seams, etc, like the honeycomb grilles on the hood he just washed in the video
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I think if one watches their dilution ratio and applies it with a non foaming pump sprayer it won't foam, so then no worries. Not so sure how good it will do as a preclean??? It's not the foam that does the cleaning just allows whatever applied to hang in there a little longer.
 
BLM said:
I think if one watches their dilution ratio and applies it with a non foaming pump sprayer it won't foam, so then no worries. Not so sure how good it will do as a preclean??? It's not the foam that does the cleaning just allows whatever applied to hang in there a little longer.
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Yeah, I get that the foam is for cling which equals more time to do the job and soften stuff up, IF it is capable of that and doesn't just act as lubrication for foaming it on and then wiping it off as a single, freestanding process
 
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Klasse Act said:
I've basically used Ech2o only as a RW, too tricky as a WW, extra buffing was something I didn't wanna do. If you want ONE RW that adds gloss & protection, you can't do much better than Ech2o, maybe Labocosmetica Idrosave

As far as a pure cleaner, you really can't do better than Feynlab RW v3! I've said it many times and I'll say it again about Feynlab RW..."You can SEE the clean", it's the best way to describe it and when you use it, you'll see what I mean

There's other products, in each of the 2 categories that are pretty close to my 2 choices here but if could only have 2, it would be Ech2o & Feynlab

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Good point. I used the previous version of Feynlab and I also was really impressed how well in cleaned. Like you said you can see the clean.....that's the only RW that saturated the surface/wetted the surface. Can Coat would reject the others much quicker.
 
How does the Feynlab do as a precleaner/ presoak?
 
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