New Word of the Day

A "new word of the day" for 07.16.2012:

Phatic

Definition:
1. Of, relating to, or being speech used to share feelings or to establish a mood of sociability
rather than to communicate information or ideas.
2. Pertaining to words used to convey a polite mood, rather than meaning.
(Person #1: "How are you today?"; Person#2: "Fine!")
3. Small talk
4. Meaningless jabber/gossip


-Many anthropologists that specialize in the ethnography of human societies, past and present, include the scientific approach
towards explaining/describing an individual's/community's speech-'behaviors' (communion/communication).

Any links pertaining to the subject would be appreciated FUN. Great way to burn up the evening. PM if you are inclined. Thanks!
-These ethnographers have chosen, (among several: defined-speech-categories), pathic-speech
to discriminate/differentiate the: talk-between-humans, (as so listed in the above 'pathic-definitions-section');
and, to what they refer to as: colloquy---(discussion, formal conversation, dialogue, debate)...that individuals/communities do so engage.

-I wonder, then, what ethnographical name-subset(s) would be given to
AGO's individuals/community typed-responses/"speech" in, for example:
a. New Members' Introductory Threads
b. How to Start a Detailing Business Threads
c. What is the Best Wax/Sealant Threads
d. Take a Look at My Latest-Detail...Sorry, No "Before" Pics

-No matter their "speech"-designations...
This is how I've often viewed individual/community..."communication(s)":

"All speech is vain and empty unless it be accompanied by action." ~ Demosthenes

:)

Bob
I do also, but probably not to the degree that you're capable of.
I wonder if it's human nature, or just the way we Americans process information?

Edit: Being Freudian in nature, I tend to see various underlying themes from time to time in various posts.

This is what my minds eye caught concerning this sig.pic... http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...e-200-detail-look-quality-only-2-3-hours.html

:autowash: :buffing: :hotrod2:

wash..............buff...........haul ass!!!!! LOL:laughing:

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Any links pertaining to the subject would be appreciated FUN. Great way to burn up the evening. PM if you are inclined. Thanks!

Will do!!

I wonder if it's human nature, or just the way we Americans process information?

Excellent point!! :xyxthumbs:
We Americans are often viewed as being somewhat "strange"...Perhaps that's the "price" we pay for having: Democracy and Free Speech!!

Edit: Being Freudian in nature, I tend to see various underlying themes from time to time in various posts.

^^^Me too!! (and I have FUN trying to decipher those themes)^^^

Hi VT...
PM is on the way...Hope you enjoy the links!

:)

Bob
 
Having travelled to all but one of the 48 contiguos states, and having lived in multiple regions of the country, I find it useful and entertaining to adapt and flow where colloquial variations come into play.

As far as the reference to "the way we Americans process information", I am just pondering the how we as a nation like to put things into groups, or look for the cause and effect in patterns concerning groups.

Forum member rustytruckruck opened up a can of worms when he :poke: the young'uns...
concernig their business aspirations and his opinion of their - maturity (???) or whatnot...I forgot what the thred was all about.
 
Punography

Punography


I changed my i Pod name to Titanic. It's syncing now.

When chemists die, they barium.

Jokes about German sausage are the wurst .

A soldier who survived mustard gas and pepper spray is now a seasoned veteran.

I know a guy who's addicted to brake fluid. But he says he can stop any time.

How does Moses make his tea? Hebrews it.

I stayed up all night to see where the sun went. Than it dawned on me.



This girl said she recognized me from the vegetarian club, but I'd never met herbivore.

I'm reading a book about anti-gravity and I can't put it down.

I did a theatrical performance about puns. It was a play on words.

They told me I had type A blood, but it was a Type-O.

A dyslexic man walks into a bra.

Why were the Indians here first? They had reservations.

Class trip to the Coca-Cola factory. I hope there's no pop quiz .

Energizer battery arrested. Charged with battery.

I didn't like my beard at first. Then it grew on me.

How do you make holy water? Boil the hell out of it.

Did you hear about the cross eyed teacher who lost her job because she couldn't control her pupils?

When you get a bladder infection, urine trouble.

What does a clock do when it's hungry? It goes back four seconds.

I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me.

Broken pencils are pointless.

I tried to catch some fog. I mist.

What do you call a dinosaur with a extensive vocabulary? A thesaurus.

England has no kidney bank, but it does have a Liverpool.

I used to be a banker, but then I lost interest.

I dropped out of communism class because of lousy Marx
.
All the toilets in New York's police stations have been stolen. Police have nothing to go on.

I got a job at a bakery because I kneaded dough.

Haunted French pancakes give me the crepes.

Velcro - what a rip off.

Cartoonist found dead in home. Details are sketchy.

Venison for dinner ? Oh deer.

Earthquake in Washington obviously government's fault.

I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure.

I do not enjoy computer jokes. Not one bit.

Be kind to your dentist. He has fillings, too.
 
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You, forum friend, may join my list of all time favorite comedians.
Thanks for posting hand!

"Doctor, I have a ringing in my ears". "Don't answer".

"Doctor, my legs hurt, what can I do?". "Limp".

A man goes to a psychiatrist. "Nobody listens to me!" The doctor says, "Next!".

A man goes to a psychiatrist. The doctor says,"You're crazy!". The man says, "I want a second opinion". "OK, you're ugly too".

The doctor says, "You'll live to be 60". "I AM 60!". "See, what did I tell you".
 
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You, forum friend, may join my list of all time favorite comedians.
Thanks for posting hand!



"Doctor, I have a ringing in my ears". "Don't answer".

"Doctor, my legs hurt, what can I do?". "Limp".

A man goes to a psychiatrist. "Nobody listens to me!" The doctor says, "Next!".

A man goes to a psychiatrist. The doctor says,"You're crazy!". The man says, "I want a second opinion". "OK, you're ugly too".

The doctor says, "You'll live to be 60". "I AM 60!". "See, what did I tell you".

Ha. No such luck. someone else sent it to me. But funny
 
I can't tell a joke without losing the punch line.
The above jokes are from the King of the One Liners.
I'm a fan of Johnny Carson and watch his monolgues frequently on the web.
 
Re: Punography

Punography

Thanks for some good one-liners, Largebore:props:

That reminds me...I told my folks, that when I grew up, I wanted to be a Punographer...
But they didn't get it.


-Seven days without a pun makes one weak.
-Puns about monorails always make for decent one-liners.

-I used to be addicted to soap, but I'm clean now.
-The one who invented the door knocker got a No-bell prize.
-A hole has been found in the nudist camp wall. The police are looking into it.
-I used to be a watchmaker. It was a great job and I made my own hours.

-Those who jump off a Paris bridge are in Seine.
-I saw a beaver movie last night, it was the best dam movie I've ever seen

-Two peanuts were walking in a tough neighborhood and one of them was a-salted.
-The coffee tasted like mud because it was ground a couple of minutes ago.
-I could not pull out of my parking space, so I used my back up plan.
-A dog gave birth to puppies near the road and was ticketed for littering.


-A bacteria walked into a bar and the bartender said, 'We don't serve bacteria in this place.'
The bacteria said, 'But I work here, I'm staph.'
-A toothless termite walked into a tavern and said, "Is the bar tender here?"


-It's not that the man did not know how to juggle, he just didn't have the balls to do it.
-Why did the capacitor kiss the diode? He just couldn't resistor.
-It was an emotional wedding. Even the cake was in tiers. (For AGO forum member Alko (Alex)
-An invisible man marries an invisible woman. The kids were nothing to look at either.
-Don't join dangerous cults: Practice safe sects!

-Weight loss mantra? Fat chants!
-I got my large circumference from eating too much pi.
-The roundest knight at King Arthur's round table was Sir Cumference.

-Did you hear about the guy whose whole left side was cut off? He's all right now.
-The butcher backed up into the meat grinder and got a little behind in his work
-The frustrated cannibal threw up his hands.
-The cannibal's cookbook titled 'How to Better Serve your Fellow Man'
was written by a guy who had a wife and ate kids.
-When the cannibal showed up late to the luncheon,
they gave him the cold shoulder.

-A small boy swallowed some coins and was taken to a hospital. When his grandmother telephoned to ask how he was,
a nurse said 'No change yet'.
-The proctologist reassured the patient that his condition could be rectified.
-For plumbers, a flush beats a full house
-The student was late for class, claiming he was in the washroom. Teacher said he was stalling.

-John Deere's manure spreader is the only equipment the company won't stand behind.

Punography is almost as much FUN as lymerick-ing!!!

:)

Bob
 
* Constipated people don't give a crap.

*Practice safe sex - go screw yourself.

* To all of you virgins, thanks for nothing.

* If at first you don't succeed...Blame someone else and seek counseling.

*Impotence: Nature's way of saying no hard feelings.

* You're just jealous because all of the voices are talking to me.

*Necrophilla: That uncontrollable urge to crack open a cold one.

*Bigamy is having one wife too many. Some say monogamy is the same.

*The most effective way to remember the wife's birthday is to forget it once.

PHOTO OF A PUNOGRAPHER:

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Thanks!! VT...good stuff :props:




:)

Bob
 
Before 07.18.2012 draws to an end, here's its "new word of the day":

Paracosm

Definitiion: An imaginary world

Although a paracosm is said to begin in ones childhood, as adults we still create imaginary worlds.

For instance:
-We get new jobs and imagine someday we'll be the CEO of the company.
-We meet a person that interests us; ask them out on a date; and then imagine our two lives being forever entwined.
-We purchase a: "Black-BC/CC'ed vehicle"...for use as a Daily-Driver (DD) and imagine it will surely stay: swirls, scratches, etc.---blemish-free.

Then all of a sudden it hits us: "Wow, how the he!! did that happen"?

Perhaps we're so accustomed to allowing our imaginations run wild, that sometimes we can't distinguish from our paracosms,
and what it is in life we actually want and are striving to obtain...realistically.

It's sometimes an ardous journey in making those imaginary: 'ideal-world(s)'...live up to our: 'real-world(s)'...and, our expectations...IMHO.
We hear, see/read about it all the time, even on Detailing Forums.

But then again: What does, (or even should), this say about the "Dreamers" amongst us??

:)

Bob
 
Amazing. I've searched the thread starters looking for something to make a NWoD.

Great example FUN.
I've only reviewed one of the links that you sent me the other day. I will take the time to review the others. Interesting to compare their analysis to my perception of how our society has changed; and the societal norm reversal compared to that particular time frame.


My paracosm-like thinking involves living out my life in the DC area. I'm a warm climate person and have only lived a total of 6 years (out of 50.5) in any region that I consider cold.

I know for a fact that as long as I have good health, I'll detail in one capacity or another, but white line fever is in my blood, no - in my DNA ...another paracosm as wifey wants no parts of it in our lives.

What's a hand to do ?
 
A "new word of the day" (and it's 'associates') for 07.19.2012:

Half-Life

Definition:
-The Theory of Radioactive Decay (and Growth)…"The Law of Decay"
-The time required for one-half of a radioactive element to decay
- A process for a way of quantifying how fast the decay of a radioactive element is occurring
(the whole/complete decaying process would, in principle, take forever to complete)
-This "half-life decay" results in a change of the original radioactive element
into another element called: "the daughter element".
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Poisson Distribution...after French mathematician Siméon Denis Poisson:
-In Probability Statistics: A distribution that represents the number of events
occurring randomly in a fixed time at an average rate


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Gaussian Distribution...after German mathematician and physical scientist: Johann Carl Friedrich Gauss.


In probability theory, the normal (or Gaussian) distribution is a continuous probability distribution,
that has a bell-shaped probability density function,
known as the Gaussian distribution-function---the "Bell Curve", (with its 6-Sigma assignments).
[Further put to use by W. Edwards Deming in some of his SPC-teachings…
including world-wide OEM vehicle manufacturing]



An application of the "Bell Curve" per the following AGO thread (and others on the same subject):

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/22805-professional-detailers-list-2.html



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John Napier: A Scottish mathematician, physicist, astronomer and astrologer:
Known as the discoverer of logarithms and the common usage of the decimal point in mathematics.
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Now, it may be asked: What does this have to do with 'Detailing', so to speak?

AS such:
-I have been quite intrigued ever since I read the posting (#36),
by 'Optimum Polymer Technologies' Dr. G...in Largebore’s following thread,
and decided to brush-up/do-a-little-research on the subject matter:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/52781-dr-ghodoussi-where-s-beef-4.html

In part, Dr. G states…

"Obviously you have brought up a great question that has generated a good deal of discussion already.
There are several different factors that are discussed here
and I throw in my $0.002 by starting off with the UV question..."

"First let me point out that waxes and/or sealants do not block UV light
unless there are UV absorbers that are effectively incorporated in the formula.
Additionally, automotive UV absorbers which are very durable,
have a 5 year half life, meaning that every five years
the concentration is reduced by 50% percent."

"The UV absorbers we use in the Optimum Car Wax are the same as those in the clearcoat paint.
The testing we did is an ASTM standard test for automotive paint."
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Disclaimer:
The following is in no way, form, or fashion an attempt to discredit/discount Dr. G's statements.
Just curiosity on my part…Nothing else!!
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Being that I’ve always associated the term:
half-life... with radioactive elements and their atomic-structure;
and, automotive paint’s life being defined in terms such as:
life-expectancy over the course of vehicles’ service-life ;

I am, then, proposing the following questions/postulates/points-of-view:

Questions:
1. Are clear-coat paint (CC) formulations, radioactive, in and of themselves?
2. Are any of the UV absorbers/inhibitors (let’s call them 'protectors'), radioactive, in and of themselves?
3. Does the addition of these UV protectors to CC paint mix/formulations result in a radioactive paint-product?
4. Will CC paint with UV-protectors, when exposed to UV-A/B rays become radioactive,
or more radioactive (taking into consideration: questions 1,2,3 above)?
5. Are "daughter elements" the result of CC paint 'decaying'? Are they radioactive?
6. Is radioactive-decay...random by nature.


Postulations:
1. CC paint/UV-absorbers, in their totality (properly engineered/applied/cured);
and, as such, are to be considered as: an element/atoms…are radioactive.
2. UV-rays exposure (as determined by Dr. G’s patent-approved: QUV ASTM G-53 test method)
will affect the life-cycle of the element/atoms: "CC/UV-protectors’ed" paint.
3. "Daughter Elements" are oxidation/CC-failure personified…They are not radioactive.
4. Elements/atoms decay randomly
5. The hallmark of a scientific theory is not what it seems to explain, but rather what it predicts.


Points-of-View:
-Since half-life has been specified as a process of quantifying how fast radioactive decay/growth occurs;
and, with Dr. G alluding to CC paint’s UV-absorbers having a half-life of 5 years;
it would seem to follow that the remaining UV-absorbers then should have:

A: 2 ½ years half-life, etc., etc---(5)+(2 ½)+(1 ¼)+(5/8)+(5/16).......

So, in theory, (and being this is a linear-decay representation), the total life
of CC paints’ UV-absorbers should be at least 10 years: (x = 5(yrs)….....n!)


-But this how we expect elements/atoms to behave! That, however is not the case.
There are limits to what we may logically deduce,
and the science/physics that govern: "The Laws of Decay".

I believe that one must take into consideration that the: "initial speed of decay" will,
as Newton predicted, "slow down"…not be a true linear-decay, as it were.

-Instead, and because of decay "slowing down" from its initial decaying-speed,
the "time constant" should be factored into the half-life equation.

This is what’s known as: The Mean-Life
the defined average-life-expectancy of radioactive elements/atoms.


Without going into too great mathematical depths…

The mean-life equals the half-life divided by the natural logarithm of 2...(0.693)…{RE: John Napier}

Besides, IMO, this fact simplifies the mathematics of: 'growth and decay'. It also quantifies such an everyday idea
as the average life expectancy of an element/atoms {RE: Poisson}:

A Poisson Distribution Chart:





This same principal applies to the growth of the "daughter-elements": oxidation/CC-failure...(inversely, though)...




-To me, then, it can be theorized/assumed that the mean-life of the element/atoms: "CC/UV-absorbers" would be:

Half-life of 5yrs/0.693 = ……………………………7.215yrs; plus (+)

7.215/2 = 3.6075
Half-life of 3.6075yrs/0.693 = ………………….5.2056yrs; plus (+)

5.2056/2 = 2.6028
Half-life of 2.6028/0.693 = ……………………….3.7558yrs; plus (+)

WHOA!!! Wait a minute!...
We’re already way over the stated 10 years life expectancy of CC/ UV-absorbers!!
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What does this mean then (if anything)?.....(I’ll try to touch on a few points I thought of):

-When the new car salesman says: "You don’t ever have to wax your car---it’s got CC".
Is this true?

-If a person were to just keep their new vehicle clean: by utilizing proper vehicle-washing techniques…
Will their vehicles’ CC paint-film last the estimated: >15 years?

-Doesn't abrading the CC paint-film reduce the half-lives of CC/UV_absorbers?
If so, how much removal of CC, by abrasion processes, is acceptable in the half-life theme of: CC/UV absorbers preservation?
Except for 'deemed CC correction'...Why do "abrasion" at all, or ever?

-Does the application of waxes/sealants- LSP’s extend the half-lives of CC/UV-absorbers?
a. How long (years) will a person 'keep' a vehicle.
b. Re-sale value
c. Personal preferences of their vehicles' appearance

-Does this in any way answer LargeBore’s initial thread-starter question; i.e. "Scientific evidence"…and…
Will the urban myth, brought up by LargeBore, that applications of LSP’s: will '‘protect' CC paint...finally be put to rest?

-If CC/UV-absorbers are radioactive...Should Dr. G amend his statement/explanation about half-life?
If not radioactive...Is the: "Law of Decay", then, still applicable?


In Conclusion:
-Personally I believe that I'll keep my vehicles as clean as possible;
lightly polish the CC paint-films with products
such as cleaner-waxes/3M Imperial Hand Glaze, or their ilk;
and apply a spray wax such as Dr. G's: Optimum Car Wax (OCW)...
until I decide to incorporate a Coating into my "processes".


Of course; and, without a doubt:
That coating will be,
from none other than Dr. G,
Down in Tennessee!!

-Also...For those that did...Thanks for taking the time to read this rather protracted posting of mine.

-And, as always: Thoughts anyone??

:)

Bob
 
Disclaimer:
The following is in no way, form, or fashion an attempt to discredit/discount Dr. G's statements.
Just curiosity on my part…Nothing else!!
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What does this mean then (if anything)?.....(I’ll try to touch on a few points I thought of):

[SIZE=+2]Q1.[/SIZE]-When the new car salesman says: "You don’t ever have to wax your car---it’s got CC".
Is this true?

[SIZE=+2]Q2.[/SIZE]-If a person were to just keep their new vehicle clean: by utilizing proper vehicle-washing techniques…
Will their vehicles’ CC paint-film last the estimated: >15 years?

[SIZE=+2]Q3[/SIZE]-Doesn't abrading the CC paint-film reduce the half-lives of CC/UV_absorbers?
If so, how much removal of CC, by abrasion processes, is acceptable in the half-life theme of: CC/UV absorbers preservation?
Except for 'deemed CC correction'...Why do "abrasion" at all, or ever?


-Does this in any way answer LargeBore’s initial thread-starter question; i.e. "Scientific evidence"…and…
Will the urban myth, brought up by LargeBore, that applications of LSP’s: will '‘protect' CC paint...finally be put to rest?

-And, as always: Thoughts anyone??

:)

Bob


Social sciences are more my forte. So, please forgive my ramblings...remember, I'm the one who thought that petrolatum was the Isoparafinnic Hydrocarbon. :dunno:


Q1 & Q2:

What if you substitute the word, 'dirty'- for the word, 'clean' ?

What I'm asking is does a rarely washed, grime laden, heavily swirled ( as dense as the rainforest's canopy) cc layer act as it's own "UV inhibitor"...due to refraction ?
Post 22 here...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/50848-2000-subaru-outback-3.html

Isn't it said around here that the OEM UV inhibitors migrate to the surface of the cc film as it cures?

Q3:

Inquiring minds," want to know".
 
Social sciences are more my forte. So, please forgive my ramblings...remember, I'm the one who thought that petrolatum was the Isoparafinnic Hydrocarbon. :dunno:


Q1 & Q2:

What if you substitute the word, 'dirty'- for the word, 'clean' ?

What I'm asking is does a rarely washed, grime laden, heavily swirled ( as dense as the rainforest's canopy) cc layer act as it's own "UV inhibitor"...due to refraction ?
Post 22 here...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/50848-2000-subaru-outback-3.html

Isn't it said around here that the OEM UV inhibitors migrate to the surface of the cc film as it cures?

Q3:

Inquiring minds," want to know".

-Yes...I can see how a vehicle with a layer of dust, dirt, grime... may be considered as having another: UV inhibitor.
But in the same vein of thought...
What effect is this dirty-layer of air-born contaminates doing to the CC paint-film?
Surely, the chemicals in the dirt itself, is chemically "breaking down" the CC somewhat over time?
I'm predisposed to think so.

-The UV-inhibitors/absorbers, although being clearly throughout the CC's resin/formulation, do have the chemical-tendancy to
'gather' around the 'upper-portion' of the CC paint-film.
But with the CC being so very thin...the exact % of migratory UV-inhibitors/absorbers
(without access to special electron microscopes) would be difficult to count...
as well as what 'strata' of the CC paint-film they decide, to finally reside.

I'm sure the paint manufactures engineers/lab techs have already discerned the above situations...
and made the necessary calculations to appease their OEM customers' paint-specs.

-Q3...It is said that: smoothness equals glossness. Which in turn should/will increase the reflection-angle of incoming UV-rays...
helping, in a manner of speaking, to preserve the CC and all of its ingredients.

I guess the questions, then, might be:
-What is the least amount of abrasion that it will take, to produce just enough CC-smoothness, to satisfy an individual vehicle owner?
-Will true-glazes/LSP's provide enough, or any: smoothness/glossness...to satisfy a person's quest for "SHINE"?


BTW...VT...
What's your take on CC/UV-inhibitors/absorbers:
Half-life vs. Mean-life numbers?


:)

Bob
 
I'm a little off today. First I posted in the wrong thread Im the MAN. Secondly, the committee upstairs was debating reflection or refraction as I was typing - resulting in the above.:confused:

One thing that I've noticed over the years is that when cleaning MawMaw's car that's rarely driven far, and equally not cleaned as often, is that the end result after polishing is just amazing.
This old lady would only put several thousand on the clock yearly, vehicle outside 24/7, and only cleaned by the dealership at service intervals. But when polished every 4-5 years, that whip would bling. Few if any etchings or waterspots.

Half life makes sense. Not in the traditional sense of the word, but as in marketer-speak/PhD talk.

One has to 'break it off proper' - technical talk, but not too much as to be over the detailers head.


The mean life reference came into play as I read the original Dr.G. reply the other day; but I soon dismissed it. As far as the number's...remember when I posted that I graduated with a GPA barely above that of 43...you know, W .:)


Truly hoping that others will chime in.
 
-Yes...I can see how a vehicle with a layer of dust, dirt, grime... may be considered as having another: UV inhibitor.
But in the same vein of thought...
What effect is this dirty-layer of air-born contaminates doing to the CC paint-film?
Surely, the chemicals in the dirt itself, is chemically "breaking down" the CC somewhat over time?
I'm predisposed to think so.


:)

Bob

Give me a few minutes to upload a few iPhone photos of a 90's model Buick (hard clear-former county vehicle pool) maintenance customer.

Bear with me if i don't get back- heavy t-storm/winds right now. This area is prone to power outages.
 
Flabbergasted
Definition: me
I think you guys are turning this thread into one of the most educational threads on this Site. Thank you guys for keeping it up when I continually am falling short, that girl really messed up my chi lol

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IDK, Mike. If you look at my posts, there are a lot of spelling errors, mispunctuations, misuse of verbs/adverbs, nouns/pronouns, etc.

Sister Regina Moody would be much dismayed.

Actually, I'm glad that she's not around...that ruler brought pain to many a knuckle.

 
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