One polisher to rule them all

dlc95 said:
In my opinion, you already have two machines that can just about do it all.

The Porter Cable 7424xp is my general purpose work horse. It will sand, remove sanding marks, compound, polish, seal, and be used with brushes.

I've had the Flex 3401, and while it was a great machine - took me much longer to get the job done, so I sold it.

For more refined results, and higher end performance I'll use my Rupes system. For general jobs, the Porter Cable will get me paid in a timely manner.
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And see for me the 3401 gets the job done quicker than my Torq 10fx.

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Idk about one but i like my tools
g21 griots for the large panels
gg6 convert to a 3.5 bs with 4 inch for smaller areas
and a rotary for sometimes getting hard stuff out or speeding the correction step if that makes sense.
 
Cruzscarwash said:
Every carpet brush I've ever has the backing has come off after 1 use. Which are u guys using
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I once tried going the cheapo route and bought 1 of those brushes you're talking about... I used the darn thing for about 30sec. and it came right off the backing. Lol.
It's a good thing the seller was cool and offered me a refund on it.
 
Jomax said:
My only beef is when it stops spinning on awkward panels.
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Mark 2 supposedly fixed the stalling issue. Sent my defective FE7 back today in exchange for a 15 mm mark 2 HD. I'm selling my 1st gen 15 mm for $20.
 
Red Hawk said:
Mark 2 supposedly fixed the stalling issue. Sent my defective FE7 back today in exchange for a 15 mm mark 2 HD. I'm selling my 1st gen 15 mm for $20.
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The mk2 15 has plenty of stalling issues as well, not as much but I still can get it to stall on certain panels.
 
Eldorado2k said:
Do you use the washer mod?
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Yup, got mine off Kevin Brown
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With just about and free spindle machine, stall will always be a factor.

One of the more overlooked aspects of these tools - long throw especially, is the amount of time that might need to be spent on technique.

Some people have a natural aptitude, and some may take longer getting acquainted with random orbitals.

I've actually been getting requests for buffing lessons, and had my first one last Sunday. Big dude, really heavy handed. Did great with the rotary, but on the r/o he slightly favored heavier pressure, but was good about keeping the pad flat, and maintaining rotation. We didn't have time to get to the Rupes that session, but maybe next time.

The Rupes took me some time to get acclimated to. More than I thought it was going to. Even today, after the cars, and practice panels the tall stroke is easier for me to stall than the PC, but is quickly corrected by paying attention to technique.
 
Not trying to be rude, but these posts about people who haven't ever used a polisher, yet spring for a Rupes, are in for a rude awakening. Yes, the Mark II has less stalling issues, but will still stall on MANY areas of a car, especially if you don't have experience. The best place to start for a newbie is a GG 6" 8mm DA.
 
Keep them all and save up for another polisher if you think it will improve your ability to increase efficiency. You don't want to be stuck on a car and have your ONLY polisher break down. Also, having multiple polishers set up with different sized backing plates or different pads will help speed any correction job along.
 
WRAPT C5Z06 said:
Not trying to be rude, but these posts about people who haven't ever used a polisher, yet spring for a Rupes, are in for a rude awakening. Yes, the Mark II has less stalling issues, but will still stall on MANY areas of a car, especially if you don't have experience. The best place to start for a newbie is a GG 6" 8mm DA.
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:iagree:
 
Zubair said:
I did a Ferrari not long ago, particularly the rear fender with a very awkward angle where I was getting orbit only without rotation on my 15 ES. Lo and Behold with orbital action only it corrected swirls amazingly well! I can only imagine howmuch more efficient my soon to arrive MKII would have behaved on the same panel. I have yet to see where the Rupes fell short on a curve or concave and where the Flex outcut it. We too obsessed on rotation only forgetting the massive throw is cutting as well.
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How much better is the MK2?
 
AZ Mike said:
Usually the Grey Ultra Soft Upholstery Brush and the Aqua Soft Carpet Brush. The Aqua Soft brush works great on tires.

Grey Ultra Soft Upholstery Brush

Aqua Soft Carpet Brush
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Yeah, I agree Mike.

I found the white brushes bristles get a bit out of shape after a while & I've been running the Aqua brush for quite some time now & it's nowhere near as distorted. These brushes do a fair amount of work in my shop & I wouldn't hesitate to recomend them at all.

Grey brush is awesome on dirty leather or other interior surfaces too.

Aaryn NZ. :dblthumb2:
 
WRAPT C5Z06 said:
Not trying to be rude, but these posts about people who haven't ever used a polisher, yet spring for a Rupes, are in for a rude awakening. Yes, the Mark II has less stalling issues, but will still stall on MANY areas of a car, especially if you don't have experience. The best place to start for a newbie is a GG 6" 8mm DA.
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I disagree (a bit).

The Mk II does not stall.

One could say if someone is inexperienced it can stall. OK, I will give you that.

However, one could also say if one is inexperienced they will cook pads with a GG6.

I own both these machines and the difference is night and day. The only benefit to a GG6 is that you can use smaller pads (3-6.6"). However, the user experience / ease of use between a Rupes and GG6 is night and day.

IMHO the Rupes is definitely worth the money if you can afford it.


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swanicyouth said:
I disagree (a bit).

The Mk II does not stall.

One could say if someone is inexperienced it can stall. OK, I will give you that.

However, one could also say if one is inexperienced they will cook pads with a GG6.

I own both these machines and the difference is night and day. The only benefit to a GG6 is that you can use smaller pads (3-6.6"). However, the user experience / ease of use between a Rupes and GG6 is night and day.

IMHO the Rupes is definitely worth the money if you can afford it.


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I totally agree it's worth the money, especially for those where time is money. And I don't polish as many cars as some on here but been using a DA on and off for about 5 years.

However the mk2 can and does stall from time to time on various panels. It's a great machine but it is what it is. Maybe with experience one can contour the machine a bit different, maybe add or decrease pressure on certain panels but that doesn't mean the machine won't experience some kind of pad stall.

The experienced just know how to decrease the stalling better.
 
Cruzscarwash said:
Every carpet brush I've ever has the backing has come off after 1 use. Which are u guys using
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I'm using the Aqua Color One

This brush is phenomenal on carpet scrubbing. It has medium crimped bristles for gentle by thorough cleaning, making it suitable for a variety of jobs. It loosens and removes spots and stains from most types of carpet. Use it in conjunction with Stoner Carpet Cleaner or Wolfgang Carpet & Upholstery Restorer to exceed the expected!


Used it on the floor mats to our van and a throw rug we had in our entryway to our front door. Worked okay, but honestly I would rather just use our carpet cleaner that has brushes on it. YMMV. The 7424 can make a mess on mats with how I used it. It was hot out so I didn't care that I got wet.
 
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