Optimum Car wax
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What am I trying to accomplish? I know what you're trying to accomplish. All I did was tell the truth.
For some reason, you are unable to grasp the concept that this product does not last up to 5 months. What do you mean by "up to"? When you say up to, do you mean 4 months? Do you mean 3 months? In my previous posts, I stated that the longevity of this product is around 6-8 weeks. I also stated that the car in which I used this product on is garaged 24-7. As I stated, the conditions in which this product was used, was favorable for longevity, meaning that in less favorable conditions, longevity will be less.
When you say "up to 5 months", that could be anywhere from 1 week, to 5 months. 6-8 weeks is nowhere near 5 months. At this point, I consider this dishonest and fraudulent. I am done with Optimum, this thread and with you.
Great way to gain customer loyalty :xyxthumbs:
Chris Thomas
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Now I know why there has to be a lawyer disclaimer at the end of everything...
C. Charles Hahn
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Yes, because obviously no possible set of conditional circumstances exist wherein their claims could possibly be accurate. Your personal set of circumstances and all variables that come into play within your scenario are the ideal conditions for that 5 month durability to be observed, and none better could possibly be found.
Give me a break!
oke:Fly Bye, I don't understand you. At first you praised OCW then suddenly flipped and stated you are done with Optimum. You stated the same thing as Chris, there are different variables affecting the performance of the product. That implies you understand the statement "up to". You stated the product loses slickness after a couple weeks but that doesn't mean protection is not there. In your opinion you feel OCW does not last up to 5 months in your garage, yet Optimum achieved better results in a lab where they could monitor the product in ways you can't. I'm sorry but you are contradicting yourself, not Chris.
The solution is simple really, if you don't feel the product lasts long enough then re-apply it or move to a more durable product as mentioned.
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The solution is simple really, if you don't feel the product lasts long enough then re-apply it or move to a more durable product as mentioned.
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builthatch
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dude, go hit a heavy bag or something. lay off with the crazy attitude! log off and come back when you have your mind right. what Chris said makes perfect sense and you attacked him because you either didn't read or comprehend his explanation of the 5 month thing. he already posted about it earlier in this thread:
it's apparent there that he's saying if you REQUIRE that durability, then do the maximum, ie OOS w/ OCW or Opti-Coat. if you don't do those things, then the liklihood of that upper durability duration is less and as explained that depends on the variables he listed.
Chris has come in here and been nothing but gracious to everyone. many factory people are not necessarily personable or objective when offering data and from what i've seen Chris has been both of those things.
sheesh.
Chris Thomas
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I apologize if my post sounded condescending but I re read my posts and they seem crystal clear. In testing we were able to get 5 months but this certainly doesn't mean every customer, in every climate with thousands of variables will get that. I honestly thought that the term "up to" was commonly used and known to be a best case scenario. The claim is certainly not fraudulent or even misleading. Optimum stands behind our products 100% so you really have nothing to lose. If you don't like something we sell just contact me for a resolution or contact AG for a replacement/substitute.
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Black Car
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don't apologize dude. he's out of line. i think i speak for a lot of people on here when i say that Optimum has some of the best looking and easiest products on the market. I would be lost without my ONR, OCW... the list is endless.
As for the OP, i dry the entire car completely before i use my opti spray wax and it looks great.
As for the OP, i dry the entire car completely before i use my opti spray wax and it looks great.
I love OCW and the majority of my production work I finish with this product. When my clients see and feel the finish, they are astounded by how great their car looks and silky smooth the paintwork is. Not only is it easy to apply and wipe off, it produces great results in minimal time.
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What are your thoughts on OCW and ONR?
I guess I need to "bump" this thread..got a question..
will OCW give protection to rain (drizzle or hard rain)?
Because it's raining season now in the Philippines, (still, it's supposed to be summer right now!), so yeah, how about tree sap and bird poo?
I'm planning to use this as a LSP over a coat of liquid wax, QD spray wax, then OCW.
What do you think?
Or should I change the set, liquid wax, OCW, then QD spray wax?
will OCW give protection to rain (drizzle or hard rain)?
Because it's raining season now in the Philippines, (still, it's supposed to be summer right now!), so yeah, how about tree sap and bird poo?
I'm planning to use this as a LSP over a coat of liquid wax, QD spray wax, then OCW.
What do you think?
Or should I change the set, liquid wax, OCW, then QD spray wax?
builthatch
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OCW will protect as well as the best LSPs. it's basically a hybrid wax/sealant. it won't prevent spotting from hard water - nothing will, but it will protect the actual clear coat from the deposits, and that is what you want from an LSP.
i'm not sure what you mean by QD spray wax, as a QD is a QD and a spray wax is a spray wax.
anyway, i wouldn't worry about stacking them like that. liquid waxes have solvents in them that can conflict with spray wax or sealant. when you are ready for an LSP, use the OCW. if you want to use the Optimum instant detailer to enhance the gloss after the OCW, you can, but it find it to be somewhat unnecessary. instant detailer would be ideal when drying everytime you wash AFTER than initial OCW application. it will enhance the slickness and gloss in a HUGE way. then, reapply the OCW when you need to down the line. for some people it's 2 months, for some people it's 6 months. it's so easy, no reason to not apply it sooner than later.
what I mean about the QD, it's not like the QD of megs that we call 'cleaning qd'
My QD is called Microtex NanoSliq *local stuff*
It's like a coat after my Microtex NanoGloss *wax*
And they say when you top off nanogloss with nanosliq, you can get better protection (which I think, it does)
so yeah..Do I have to put this 2 before I put OCW? Or should I just use OCW?
My QD is called Microtex NanoSliq *local stuff*
It's like a coat after my Microtex NanoGloss *wax*
And they say when you top off nanogloss with nanosliq, you can get better protection (which I think, it does)
so yeah..Do I have to put this 2 before I put OCW? Or should I just use OCW?
Black Car
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Instead of using those three things why not just throw a sealant down. Maybe even 2 coats. Then use any spray wax as upkeep after you wash (or after it rains).
jamores23
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wow, no need to get at chris like that he made perfect sense. Sounds like your having personal issues at home and your bringing them on here which is annoying... OPT makes great products, "UP TO" meaning "BEST CASE SCENARIO" and like he said if you want longer protection why not opti coat or opti seal? and if you dont like OCW then STOP USING IT AND GET SOMETHING YOU DO LIKE!!
Chris, your help is always greatly appreciated here and you are very informative! dont let this one idiot ruin it for all of us. Thanks alot chris!
builthatch
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Black Car
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For the price of all those waxes and quick detailers you could def buy yourself some Wolfgang Sealant. Try it out. I really like that stuff. Hoping to get a sample of Ultima Paint Guard at some point too. I've heard very good things about that.