Pan the Organizer product line...let's discuss@

The bottle I have is pretty annoying. It says to shake well before using, but any little shake and it begins leaking like a stuck pig.

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@Klasse Act. Are you talking about the same bottle you sent me?



I just checked the bottle I have and it was separated.

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But a quick shake and it mixed just fine.

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Nice polish, but the bottle & sprayer suck. I need to put it into a different bottle & new sprayer to prevent leaking.
I remember sending you a number of things Ric, I take it I sent you a bottle of it? Is the polish pink or blue?

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Those black sprayers are not the ones they used later. The Hyper Polish was originally pink, and the Hyper Compound was blue. Then when they added the Intensive Polish, which was in-between, they changed the colors to match the suggested Optimum waffle pads, so the polish became blue, Intensive Polish was orange, and the compound was changed to white (I'm not sure if that was supposed to match a certain pad or not).

Actually, the original Hyper Compound goes back to about 2006, and wasn't a spray, but no one remembers that. It was just supposed to be a more aggressive compound.

For people that aren't familiar with the evolution of Optimum polishes, they originally were solventy lotion polishes, then got changed to a more water-based formula, which tended to go rancid. Then they tweaked them so that was less of a problem, and those were really nice products, although they do get all watery after a long time like a lot of polishes do--oddly when TRC was doing their SEMA walk through the P&S guy was talking about this, that polishes don't last that long.

Somewhere along the way, the Hyper (spray) polishes came along, and a few years ago, to my dismay, they stopped making the lotion/creme polishes leaving only the sprays (Hyper Polish, Intensive Polish, and Hyper Compound). One of the lotion/cremes was Optimum Poli-Seal, which was a really nice AIO, which was replaced with a spray called GPS (Glaze, Polish, Seal) which I didn't like at all--that has now been superseded by the new Hyper AIO.

Sorry for the book.
 
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Those black sprayers are not the ones they used later. The Hyper Polish was originally pink, and the Hyper Compound was blue. Then when they added the Intensive Polish, which was in-between, they changed the colors to match the suggested Optimum waffle pads, so the polish became blue, Intensive Polish was orange, and the compound was changed to white (I'm not sure if that was supposed to match a certain pad or not).

Actually, the original Hyper Compound goes back to about 2006, and wasn't a spray, but no one remembers that. It was just supposed to be a more aggressive compound.

For people that aren't familiar with the evolution of Optimum polishes, they originally were solventy lotion polishes, then got changed to a more water-based formula, which tended to go rancid. Then they tweaked them so that was less of a problem, and those were really nice products, although they do get all watery after a long time like a lot of polishes do--oddly when TRC was doing their SEMA walk through the P&S guy was talking about this, that polishes don't last that long.

Somewhere along the way, the Hyper (spray) polishes came along, and a few years ago, to my dismay, the stopped making the lotion/creme polishes leaving only the sprays (Hyper Polish, Intensive Polish, and Hyper Compound). One of the lotion/cremes was Optimum Poli-Seal, which was a really nice AIO, which was replaced with a spray called GPS (Glaze, Polish, Seal) which I didn't like at all--that has now been superseded by the new Hyper AIO.

Sorry for the book.
No reason to apologize at all, I even checked my bottle and it is fact Hyper Polish and I had no problems using it, thankfully

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This guy's close with ADS...I suddenly feel dirty, maybe I need to mix up some Feynlab RW v3 in the bathtub and soak a bit
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I mean he was getting a lot of views and blew up Labo USA. Makes since to get in with a up and coming YouTuber to popularize your product.

Even if the use Pan shouldn’t change that they’re good products that you like.


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I mean he was getting a lot of views and blew up Labo USA. Makes since to get in with a up and coming YouTuber to popularize your product.

Even if the use Pan shouldn’t change that they’re good products that you like.


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He hyped up Idrosave so much without ever mentioning it added protection. That was $40 wasted for me as added protection was something I did not want from my rinseless wash. I don't recall the North American distributor at that time saying anywhere in the product description anything about the nano sealant either.

While I've cooled a bit on Guz with him reviewing so many of Pan's and House of Rags products (I just don't watch those videos), every product I've bought after he spoke highly about it has been money well spent.
 
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He hyped up Idrosave so much without ever mentioning it added protection. That was $40 wasted for me as added protection was something I did not want from my rinseless wash. I don't recall the North American distributor at that time saying anywhere in the product description anything about the nano sealant either.

While I've cooled a bit of Guz with him reviewing so many of Pan's and House of Rags products (I just don't watch those videos), every product I've bought after he spoke highly about it has been money well spent.
Oh you've noticed that too, huh

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Now I gotta hear it….


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I know Yvan had mentored him, helped him streamline and straighten out his detailing business, but the guy is just so goofy now and in the past, I can't take him seriously

He just comes off as the comedic sidekick, and his Vegas lounge lizard mustache and sometimes semi mullet haircut don't help his image

The guy may be sharp as a tack but he's not anyone I would waste much time watching or listening to

I am sure people out there think I am being petty and mean, but to each his own
 
I know Yvan had mentored him, helped him streamline and straighten out his detailing business, but the guy is just so goofy now and in the past, I can't take him seriously

He just comes off as the comedic sidekick, and his Vegas lounge lizard mustache and sometimes semi mullet haircut don't help his image

The guy may be sharp as a tack but he's not anyone I would waste much time watching or listening to

I am sure people out there think I am being petty and mean, but to each his own
The echo chamber and....
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He hyped up Idrosave so much without ever mentioning it added protection. That was $40 wasted for me as added protection was something I did not want from my rinseless wash. I don't recall the North American distributor at that time saying anywhere in the product description anything about the nano sealant either.

While I've cooled a bit on Guz with him reviewing so many of Pan's and House of Rags products (I just don't watch those videos), every product I've bought after he spoke highly about it has been money well spent.

I bought it after all the mistakes they made marketing Idrosave so i knew it had protection. Its pretty good protection to be honest. I washed my car with it last week and just walked by my car after light rain. Its nice i have say. Its quite acceptable in the beads department for me and they seem to mostly rolloff themselves, which i also like, cancoat for instance would have standing beads for days if you don't drive and/or wipe off the flat panels. But i'm a Labo fanboy. I want the stuff to work lol

Its my first wash and seal product so i have nothing to compare it too. But in my experience the protection lasts 4 weeks easy.
 
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He hyped up Idrosave so much without ever mentioning it added protection. That was $40 wasted for me as added protection was something I did not want from my rinseless wash. I don't recall the North American distributor at that time saying anywhere in the product description anything about the nano sealant either.

While I've cooled a bit on Guz with him reviewing so many of Pan's and House of Rags products (I just don't watch those videos), every product I've bought after he spoke highly about it has been money well spent.

Agreed. Pans products may be good. They could even be the best. But he shoulda let others judge that.

Eddie called out Labo for that. He didn’t know it had protection. I personally don’t buy into toppers affect coatings as I still get great beading in whatever I use on top of them.

Griots 3-1 sucks at beading but was a great beader on top of the coating…..

IdroSave still one of my favorite in that it’s slick, looks good and is a great cleaner.

I could do with out protection but I think the leave stuff behind and “affecting protection is overblown”


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I know Yvan had mentored him, helped him streamline and straighten out his detailing business, but the guy is just so goofy now and in the past, I can't take him seriously

He just comes off as the comedic sidekick, and his Vegas lounge lizard mustache and sometimes semi mullet haircut don't help his image

The guy may be sharp as a tack but he's not anyone I would waste much time watching or listening to

I am sure people out there think I am being petty and mean, but to each his own

Yeah him and Wilson auto detail were not my cup of tea


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He just comes off as the comedic sidekick, and his Vegas lounge lizard mustache and sometimes semi mullet haircut don't help his image

I, like you also thought for a while that his mullet hairstyle was an actual joke, but it somehow turned out to be an real choice, which in 2024 was kinda weird. [but honestly I don’t care what another guy decides to look like]

I also think that him continuously asking Ivan what can sometimes seem like obvious or “dumb” questions tends to get kinda old but it seems intentional as that seems to be their style of how they produce their content, which in it of itself can sometimes become a bit much at times with the music going one way, and certain methods going the complete opposite where the preaching by Ivan can become almost condescending.. I hope that makes sense, I think those who know will understand what I mean.

I can’t say I used to watch alot of his content, but when he had his own channel in the past [I believe it was called Hawk Detailing] his content and personality was in many ways taken more serious and or respected as a detailer. That’s why I think the form of producing their content has sort of changed his “image” but I think it’s because part of it is an act, which I can understand because it’s a job, afterall.
 
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Wait...who's got a mullett

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Nick from DIY Detailing.

[btw I corrected a few misspelling errors in my previous post, so hopefully it makes better sense now.]
I never noticed his haircut, where did he come from btw

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I, like you also thought for a while that his mullet hairstyle was an actual joke, but it somehow turned out to be an real choice, which in 2024 was kinda weird.

I also think that him continuously asking Ivan what can sometimes seem like obvious or “dumb” questions tends to get kinda old but it seems intentional as that seems to be their style of how they produce their content, which in it of itself can sometimes become a bit much at times with the music going one way, and certain methods going the complete opposite where the preaching by Ivan can become almost condescending.. I hope that makes sense, I think those who know will understand what I mean.

I can’t say I used to watch alot of his content, but when he had his own channel in the past [I believe it was called Hawk Detailing] his content and personality was in many ways taken more serious and or respected as a detailer. That’s why I think the form of producing their content has sort of changed his “image” but I think it’s because part of it is an act, which I can understand because it’s a job, afterall.
I know exactly what you mean and I agree

Ivan can be a very polarizing figure all on his own and with this pair together it can be too much

I have a self imposed finite amount of time that I spend on UToob and it better be value packed (Sandro for instance) or I don't have a lot of patience for it

Just cut to the chase, save the song and dance, and don't get high and mighty and full of yourself and talk to me like I should have already known what you were going to say
 
I know exactly what you mean and I agree

Ivan can be a very polarizing figure all on his own and with this pair together it can be too much

I have a self imposed finite amount of time that I spend on UToob and it better be value packed (Sandro for instance) or I don't have a lot of patience for it

Just cut to the chase, save the song and dance, and don't get high and mighty and full of yourself and talk to me like I should have already known what you were going to say

Exactly.

And it’s interesting how that content can sometimes be very interesting to where it’s nice that it’s lengthy enough to where I can play it through my headphones while detailing or doing some yardwork to where it plays long enough to not have to mess with my phone for a while and also stay interested…

But when I reach the point that I’ve had enough I need to cut it off and listen to something else NOW! Lol.
 
I never noticed his haircut, where did he come from btw

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Was a popular you tuber before He was with DiY. DiY success probably why everyone coming out with their own line.


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