Pan the Organizer product line...let's discuss@

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Klasse Act said:
I appreciate that you are taking my word for it.And if he didn't take the video down you would be able to see it yourself

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It's probably more sad that I can picture him actually doing it.

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Uncbrs said:
It's probably more sad that I can picture him actually doing it.

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FWIW I also bought the guy 3 and a Coke at content creator day at the Bays in Bolingbrook Illinois 2.5 yrs ago because the line to see him was long and never ending...but I'm a bad guy

Live and learn I guess

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With Boxing Day coming up in a couple weeks I wonder if Pan will gift his serfs a couple bottles of his left over products

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Klasse Act said:
With Boxing Day coming up in a couple weeks I wonder if Pan will gift his serfs a couple bottles of his left over products

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Of course he will, but with the expectation that it will lead to a 100% positive review, anything less the 100% would be considered hate filled trolling.
 
Someone posted the following on a forum elsewhere -

I decided to look at Pan’s views on his videos over the last few months to see what the trend has been. With the exception of one or two videos, his views have dropped by a pretty fair amount, with several videos not even reaching 10k views. Leads me to believe he’s ticked off a fair amount of viewers with his “scrubbing” of comments to remove all of the “hate and toxicity”. And possibly some viewers have left since he’s not really reviewing anything other than his own products now. Subscriber counts still appears to be about what it has been, so he doesn’t appear to be losing subs over it. Just views
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This sort of backs up what I found puzzling, as in so much pushback from his actions but still retaining his subs. Posted in this thread earlier, Pan said he only lost something like 135 subscriptions after the launch of his brand.

How many here have a long list of channel subscriptions you rarely, if ever, watch? I know I do, so I suspect many who found issue with his content late last year simply stopped watching rather than consciously un-subscribing to the channel. Myself, I actually purposely unsubscribed because of how he handled things. Most won't be that deliberate.

So, I guess the actual view counts of his recent videos paints a clearer picture.
 
Thanks Deyon and I can only speak for myself but minutes into his infamous Best of 2024 video I unsubscribed and never looked back! I wonder why more people didn't just unsubscribe, it only takes a second, about as much time it took him to ruin years of building a following

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DFB said:
How many here have a long list of channel subscriptions you rarely, if ever, watch? I know I do, so I suspect many who found issue with his content late last year simply stopped watching rather than consciously un-subscribing to the channel. Myself, I actually purposely unsubscribed because of how he handled things. Most won't be that deliberate.
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I hope Pan saved some of that money he was raking in. If not I imagine at present he is forced to consider employment options none of which would offer a public presence. Perfect example of someone that had it all and royally screwed the pooch.
Personally I can't imagine his product line being around in another year or so. I know I'll never buy any Clean products.
 
BLM said:
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I hope Pan saved some of that money he was raking in. If not I imagine at present he is forced to consider employment options none of which would offer a public presence. Perfect example of someone that had it all and royally screwed the pooch.
Personally I can't imagine his product line being around in another year or so. I know I'll never buy any Clean products.
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From another video about the YT money, the formula depends a lot on actual watch time of videos and less about subscribers since these can be padded. I have notice a lot of video talkers (like in the podcasts) seem to be padding the discussion to extend the time watched.

Of course, one art is creating clickbait titles like "Exposed! The Shocking Truth About...." (Pan's recent video) which is so commonon YT,

I do not think he is going out of business, etc.
 
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I think you guys are crazy, Pan's line will do just fine, it's not like he sunk a lot of money into anything, he's using a blender, he's using a 3PL, etc.

PS I learned what a 3PL is from watching a long YouTube video...
 
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Bunky said:
From another video about the YT money, the formula depends a lot on actual watch time of videos and less about subscribers since these can be padded. I have notice a lot of video talkers (like in the podcasts) seem to be padding the discussion to extend the time watched.
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I'll vouch for how much time you can spend watching YouTube videos, yesterday I was learning how to do a waterproof shower stall.
 
How about a new line of shows:

"Behind the Wipe"

I'm sure John Walsh could still use some voice over work

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Setec Astronomy said:
I think you guys are crazy, Pan's line will do just fine, it's not like he sunk a lot of money into anything, he's using a blender, he's using a 3PL, etc.
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Well i cannot think of any other brand i would refuse to purchase based on non product performance issues. Probably wouldnt buy Pans partners in crime products (Detail Co) either due to their association with Pan and not distancing themselves from Pan when the whole Clean sleazefest went down.
 
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BLM said:
Well i cannot think of any other brand i would refuse to purchase based on non product performance issues. Probably wouldnt buy Pans partners in crime products (Detail Co) either due to their association with Pan and not distancing themselves from Pan when the whole Clean sleazefest went down.
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Yeah, ok, I think even without you and Klasse buying anything from him, he'll be fine. That obsessed guy rubs me the wrong way, but his business seems to be fine, and Pan will be too.
 
BLM said:
Well i cannot think of any other brand i would refuse to purchase based on non product performance issues. Probably wouldnt buy Pans partners in crime products (Detail Co) either due to their association with Pan and not distancing themselves from Pan when the whole Clean sleazefest went down.
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Why anyone would buy from those 3 's when ADS is readily available is beyond me! They exceed in both performance AND customer service, they're only going up up and away

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Setec Astronomy said:
Yeah, ok, I think even without you and Klasse buying anything from him, he'll be fine. That obsessed guy rubs me the wrong way, but his business seems to be fine, and Pan will be too.
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The Obsessed guy has his fingers in other things IIRC but your right, he rubs me the wrong way too, never really got into his videos after watching one or two

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