Klasse Act
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Pan the Organizer product line...let's discuss@
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I have to admit when ADS came on the scene about 18-20mos ago I was not a fan of some of their social media approach. They quickly seemed to learn it's better to be confident in their product and not focus on attacking the competition. They were in pretty tight with some of the brands/suppliers being discussed on this thread but have been sitting back and stayed focused on ADS now. They're not mixed-in to any of the drama. Seems to be a case study in humility and they're continuing to keep their hype up while releasing quality new stuff.
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Of course they are. They don't have anything to do with the day to day production of there products nor do they own any facilities.
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I think some of us may be interpreting "white label" differently
Are some folks calling all brands that don't have an actual factory sitting on the premises "white label"?
I'm not saying that's right or wrong, just trying to define our terms
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Well whomever is making it for them has nailed it...ALL OF IT
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Setec Astronomy
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I personally think that is just the fulfillment center; I don't see anything about that company indicating they manufacture anything. The funny thing is I bought some Labo products from THOR because they had a 25% off sale, but I completely forgot about looking at the shipping label and I already recycled the box, which was really flimsy for what they had in it--it was packed well, I just would have liked to have seen a heavier carton.
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I'm pretty sure someone said Labocosmetica makes their own products
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I commented on a youtubers video regarding Pans spray polish. He claims it can remove 1000 grit sand marks, from a Spray polish…
Keep in mind that Meguiars M100 states on its label that it can remove 1200 grit sanding marks, and M100 is mainly recommended for use with a rotary, but a spray polish is now claiming to remove 1000 grit sanding marks? That’s a Bold statement.
That got me thinking and I did a quick search and low and behold, there’s not a single solitary video of Pan ever doing any kind of sanding, no wet sanding, no color sanding, not a single video of him even talking about the subject, yet he claims his spray polish can remove 1000 grit sanding marks?
What happened to all his supposed extensive hands on, years long R&D that he claims he put into his product line? I guess that was more BS just like how he didn’t even have his own coating to test on his own vehicle just 5 months before release date.
Has he ever sanded anything and removed sanding marks? If he did you’d think there’d be a video? Or is it just another lie.
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I've been messaging those 2 guys you met from the video and they seem cool but tell me Pan apologized to his subs for lashing out at them...but your observation shows what a scam he REALLY is, NO CHANCE I ever watch another one of his videos...EVER
️There's that old saying..."Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"
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I've been messaging those 2 guys you met from the video and they seem cool but tell me Pan apologized to his subs for lashing out at them...but your observation shows what a scam he REALLY is, NO CHANCE I ever watch another one of his videos...EVER️
There's that old saying..."Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"
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Just to clarify: I didn’t “meet” anyone. When I say I interacted with them a couple of times I simply meant posting back & forth in their comment section.
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Thanks for clearing that up Ric, maybe I'll end up on their podcast, I've got a little podcast history as well as big mouth with alot opinions and passion
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Do you have a source to back this statement? Not being combative, rather I'm interested to know as I really, really like their products.
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I am wondering where all the cars he coated with his multiple year coatings during this development phase. He could be giving us 6 month report on all the vehicles. I made some comment about this is one video (not Pan's) and was told it had to be properly maintained. Does Pan have a detailed list of proper maintance? Pan dismissed the usual chemical tests on coatings but then other reviews do them. There is no explanation how coating makers determine the longevity.
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I think they all "ballpark it", basically because off all the conditions around the world
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Some companies test in real world conditions. Some of those companies aren't putting a hard time line on their product. My general rule is that what's being advertised should be cut in half for my geographical area.
I don't think it's an issue of who produces such and such product but rather who formulated that product.
I don't think it's an issue of who produces such and such product but rather who formulated that product.
Valid point.
Well whomever is making it for them has nailed it...ALL OF IT
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Yeah they seem very serious. I'm sure it's good stuff very nice labeling. Seems they have distanced themselves lately on youtube at least. I think its a good move.
Off topic: I often wonder about spray polishes because i actually looked at Pan's lol. Why hasn't more companies released a spray polish i wonder? I had a reply from a German channel a weeks ago they do extensive testing. He stated spray polishes are crap or junk i thinkn he said lol
I would like to know more about spray polishes personally. Interesting Eddie didn't go the spray route.
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As I have often written about the Optimum spray polishes, which came out a long, long, time ago, is that they are a great idea, being able to get a fine coating of polish across the entire pad (Optimum was early in selling MF pads, and I think the idea of the spray polish was to more evenly coat the fibers). However, the actuality of spray polishes is that if you don't use them all the time, the sprayers tend to clog and then can actually break, and even if the sprayer is working perfectly, you tend to spray not only the pad, but the machine, your arm, the car, the side of the house, etc.
Can’t say I recall him ever doing paint correction either but it’s a fairly basic skill.
Can’t really say I’ve been impressed with anyone’s technique but I would be surprised by any detailer that fails at the basic skills of paint correction/polishing.
Somebody asked him why he didn't make his into a spray polish. Apparently it's very thin... his reply was he wanted to be different. Although different from what? Pan's spray polish that released same time?
It's almost like they feed into the drama and knew how many eyebrows their line-ups would cause when released the way they all were...
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