Perfectionist Detailing #1 - Compounding & Polishing right up to an edge

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Perfectionist Detailing #1 - Compounding & Polishing right up to an edge



From post 15 of this thread


Best Practice - Avoid buffing on top of body lines and edges



Just to note, sometimes it's a good idea to read the entire thread for the full context of the topic.



This is good info! I wondered why painters tape was used. So how do you clean or buff the body lines? I'm new to detailing so I apologize for my ignorance.

It's a great question and a common question. What you're talking about is called,

Perfectionist Detailing

While I don't have a dedicated article on this topic I've written about it a lot so for right now, I'm going to just copy and paste what I've already posted to the below thread with a similar question...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...g-around-clear-plastic-protectant-film-2.html


Different, but related question: do you guys hand polish body lines before or after taping?

Or asked another way before or after machine polishing?


After as then you can remove any tape-line residue.


I call this, Perfectionist Detailing, that is rubbing out the thin space of paint that runs along trim that was covered by tape. I actually discuss this in in this article I wrote after first coming to Autogeek back in 2009. All the information in this article is just as accurate today as it was when I wrote it and it's a re-write of an even older article on the topic.


Step-by-Step How-To use the Porter Cable 7424XP


Mike Phillips said:
Here we've taped-off the rubber gasket between the glass and the window frame and I'm pointing to show that there's about an 1/8th of an inch of paint that's not going to get buffed with either of the two polishing steps.

After the correction steps we'll remove the tape and carefully wax these areas for a uniform look that will match the polished areas next to the tape line.

While not perfectionist detailing in some eyes, remember this is a daily driver, not a show car.

You can invest more time and just run the tape down the rubber and get it close to the edge of the panel if you want or just overhang a little like I did here. It's your choice based upon what you're trying to accomplish and how much time you want to invest.
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The thing about Perfectionist Detailing is that it is very time intensive. Here's the deal...

If it's your own car go for it as it's your time.

If you're detailing for money and you can get your customer's to understand the time involved to do this kind of detailing and to pay you by the hour for it... then again, go for it as it's a good gig if you can get it.


My experience is most won't want to pay for it for a daily driver and only a few will pay for it for SIV's and you still have to educate them.


Perfectionist Detailing


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Just to note...

The way you would handle the paint right next to and on a raised body line or on an edge is by hand.

Choose compounds and polishes that are known for being able to be worked by hand and then get some microfiber applicator pads and foam applicator pads.

Then put some passion behind the pad....



Put a little passion behind the pad - Mike Phillips




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I personally think taping takes up too much time, and we use that time to hand polish edges and tight areas on every detail we do that gets polished.

I choose polishes that leave no residue on trim, or are easy to remove. A rubber eraser also helps to remove residue from trim if any were to stain. I also make sure that all polish is spread evenly on a large panel before getting close to edges, that way very little (if any) polish can gunk up into cracks and crevices.

For hand pads, we rub the polish into the pads before we start working it, this way less is jammed into the crevices, we then use brushes to remove any gunked up areas.
 
I'm just curious what y'all think of this method:

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http://youtu.be/7lwWXXDs3sc

It's Paul Dalton, from Miracle Detail. I respect this guy a lot. Just looking for opinions.

Also, notice how little polish he uses. There seems to be no polish trail on the surface.
 
I guess conventional method of section passes is out the window. Seems like his method is lot faster or he may just be doing touch up work...
 
He makes it look so easy.

I'd love to buff out an entire door panel at once. And his arm speed is a lot faster than I'm used to moving.

Just bought a Rupes 15 today. Can't wait to start playing around with it.
 
I'm just curious what y'all think of this method:


When it comes to buffing on top of edges and raised body lines, while it's a good practice to not do it, if you're working on a brand new car where the paint has all it's integrity, and using a dual action polisher, there's not a lot of risk.

If you're working on an older car and you don't know how many guys have buffed the car out before you, well now you don't know if they were careful.... or not....

And if "not" you don't want to be the guy to find out the paint was whisper thin on the edges...

Also, with a DA you don't have to worry about holograms or burn-throughs...


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I was thinking that door he was working on (and under the lip of the A pillar) looked super clean - like the car was assembled 5 mins ago.

Has Paul Dalton ever visited AG?
 
I personally think taping takes up too much time,

Just depends upon the project to me. For example buffing around a car with a sunroof that has the fuzzy gasket or even the rubber gasket can get very messing if you accidental rub a polisher over it.

This is what I'm talking about... this is a picture I took of a Porsche that was brought to me this way...

1994 Porsche 964 Turbo 3.6 - Modeled by Janna and Amy


Before I washed it here's what polish residue looks like after it's dried into fuzzy gaskets like used around the sunroof.
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And in this example I was teaching people NEW to machine polishing on how to machine polish...

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Here's Chevron also using a DA Polisher for the first time...
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Done...

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But everyone finds their own way.


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I was thinking that door he was working on (and under the lip of the A pillar) looked super clean - like the car was assembled 5 mins ago.

The video said the car was a 2013. Could be he already did the heavy correction steps, I think I saw a finishing pad on the Rupes.


Has Paul Dalton ever visited AG?

Not yet but I've invited him.

Told him with a little lead time I'll get us a cool car to tag-team.


:)
 
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