Prima Hydro Seal Installation Video

How often would you add hydroseal to the mf?

I think I would overuse this product, not knowing if I'm applying product or just spreading around water.

And wouldn't a MF applicator pad make it a little easier?
 
I add a little bit more for each section. By the end of the vehicle, the towel is pretty saturated and it doesn't take much.

If your not sure, wipe some glass. If it smudges, you have product.

As for a MF applicator, it may work better for you. That is pretty-much personal preference. I'm offering a guideline for what works for me. Other testers have found a MF applicator effective. I found it difficult to gauge moisture. HS application is pretty flexible. After spending a great deal of time with it, I have my preference.

If people run into problems, I need to eliminate variables. I know how well it applies with a towel and can trouble-shoot any problems. In order to support the product, I need to have a reliable system and set of tools to use as a baseline.
 
I agree with Rob mostly everyone I know including myself use a form of a no rinse wash. Yesterday I can home and used ONR then this morning after my 2am workout i decided to try my new HS.
I first wiped the finish down with a wet MF then applied Hydro seal using original Hydro as a spritz instead of water. Well I have to tell you I applied the HS pretty thick( I am what you call a heavy user I need to see the product) and it still flashed extremely well. it took me less than 20 min and the finish is absolutely amazing. I am a huge Amigo/BG/Hydro fan and the new Hydro seal is as good or better than advertised. This product is a hit . I have been so impressed with Prima products that I recommend them to everyone. If Prima comes out with a No rinse I will never have to use any other line ( hint ) Prima products work so well and are so easy to use. At 1st i thought the HS was expensive then found out I bougth the 32oz. I am glad I did.
 
Nick@Prima said:
2. Really, you can use any non-polymer autowash before HS. Dawn is even fine. You just don't want the gloss enhancers and beading agents from an enhanced wash bungling up your HS application. Those characteristics can cause streaking.
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Any ideas on which Meguiar's shampoo might be non-polymer etc.? Or Sonax.
(When it comes to shampoo, no way can i get it shipped from the USA.)
 
Dogma- thanks for your input with using a no rinse wash and then Hydro Seal. I also use ONR or its equivalent as my wash...so I thought this might be a deal breaker for me since it contains polymers. But maybe not.
 
Waxmax said:
Dogma- thanks for your input with using a no rinse wash and then Hydro Seal. I also use ONR or its equivalent as my wash...so I thought this might be a deal breaker for me since it contains polymers. But maybe not.
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I don't think there would be a problem with using ONR or any polymer based car soap after the sealant has cured. However, before applying hydro seal, I would not use a polymer based soap(Dawn). I mean, it's only one time, and peace of mind knowing you're not bungling the application process. :dblthumb2:
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
I think that's beside the point. If it's not recommended, why do it?
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With all due respect, I'll wash my car the way I prefer, and of course, you will wash given your preferance.

I'm going to assume that Nick even has some expectation of the use of rinseless washes with hydro seal.

Again, I have nothing but great things to say about the Prima line, and I've tried many of them.
 
rfinkle2 said:
With all due respect, I'll wash my car the way I prefer, and of course, you will wash given your preferance.

I'm going to assume that Nick even has some expectation of the use of rinseless washes with hydro seal.

Again, I have nothing but great things to say about the Prima line, and I've tried many of them.
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With all due respect, refer to my post prior to this one. I wasn't inferring using a non-polymer based soap all the time, but at least prior to hydro-seal application. Makes plenty of sense to me. However, in the end, to each their own. :dblthumb2:
 
I'm not interested in arguing. I was giving my initial positive impressions of the product.

Thanks for your expert advice.

rfinkle2 said:
I got my hydro seal yesterday, and , like all products, can never wait to get initial application impressions.

I used UWW to wash two panels on my car, dried, and misted distilled water onto the panels.

I applied the Hydro seal fairly liberally, and buffed off.

THIS STUFF IS GOING TO BE A HIT.

Ease of use is on par (imo) with wowo sealants.

I went out this morning, and wanted to check slickness of the product.
I got out a fresh mf, and buffed the panels I applied the hydro seal to, and like many prima products... the panels are slick... real slick.

So far, I am really excited about using this, given I can use it on a wet car, and application is silly easy.

FWIW, if we can get a month of solid protection, you could essentially use this every wash, and keep your car slick, and looking good with relative ease.
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I apologize if I introduced some confusion. Like Prima Mystique, some autowash products and NR products have beading agents. This can cause a water-based application to streak. If you apply HS over your NR, and you get no streaking, then you are good-to-go.

If NR is your staple product, and you do get streaking, I would get down a base layer of HS after a Dawn wash or something similar. Then go back to your NR and you should be fine. Hydro Seal tends to find itself pretty well.
 
So far, I can tell you that adding an extra coat of hydro-seal after rinseless washing works well also!
 
Nick@Prima said:
I apologize if I introduced some confusion. Like Prima Mystique, some autowash products and NR products have beading agents. This can cause a water-based application to streak. If you apply HS over your NR, and you get no streaking, then you are good-to-go.

If NR is your staple product, and you do get streaking, I would get down a base layer of HS after a Dawn wash or something similar. Then go back to your NR and you should be fine. Hydro Seal tends to find itself pretty well.
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Thanks for the clarification, Nick. I thought the polymer rinseless washes may cause bonding issues, not just streaking.
 
thanks for the support on the product nick.just to clarify i can use onr or optimum car wash prior to hs and still be good correct.
 
john b said:
thanks for the support on the product nick.just to clarify i can use onr or optimum car wash prior to hs and still be good correct.
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From what I've read, yes. The only thing is, you might get streaking. If you don't, you're good to go.
 
So if the no-rinse stuff is ok - possibly - then it would probably be ok after washing with NXT or Sonax?
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
Thanks for the clarification, Nick. I thought the polymer rinseless washes may cause bonding issues, not just streaking.
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I haven't run into any bonding issue, just application issues. The first time I ran into it, I decided to leave the Sub all streaky to see what would happen. It rained a few days later and when I finally washed the rig, the streaks disappeared and the product was protecting normally. The beading was insane and the dirt basically rinsed off.

I guess it really depends on the purpose of the polymers. I suspect in the rinseless washes, the polymers are lubricants. In the case of Prima Mystique they hold to the surface and bead water. Not so good for a water-based application.

So why can one apply over a sealant? Well a sealant is bonded to the paint and is static. HS bonds to the sealant, and where the sealant is thinned, to the paint. The polymers in Mystique are "loose" and mix with the water used in application. HS won't bond to this particular polymer so together, they collect in a pile and streak. Ultimately, there is more HS than beading polymer, so some HS will find its way to the paint and do its job.
 
;495129 said:
Tis sounds like a great product but the chemical burn from the Hydro wash is concering have to wear goves each time thats not gonna happen.

is because of low ph in hydro wash
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I believe the gentleman was lost and confused. He did not get a burn from Hydro Seal or Wash. In post 15 he mumbled something about "presoak low pH i think." He isn't even talking about any Prima products. The best I can tell, he is talking about something he got from his work.

And no offense, but now his incoherent ramblings are being reposted as fact. His post is ridiculous and completely without merit. They were so absurd I shouldn't have to acknowledge them which is why I didn't. Yet here we are...
 
I hope that the Autogeek community knows better than to take the post referenced above as fact...

I'll report it if a moderator does not remove it.
 
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