Rupes LHR 15ES vs GG6

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View attachment 24525I just polished my 2006 Mazda this weekend with my new Rupes and I must say there's a huge difference from my GG6. Both times were done with LC 5.5" flat white pads and Menzerna PF 2500 and Powerlock applied after. The GG6, the paint came out okay but with the Rupes, the gloss was really extra nice. Maybe because in three months, this was the second time polishing the Mazda, but I must say this time was really great. Maybe I didn't use the GG6 patiently and went as slow as I should have.

I don't know. I don't feel like I did anything differently with the Rupes, but who knows. I don't have before pictures, but here is on after (excuse the messy garage). All I know if the car looks really nice.
 
I have both machines as well. I haven't noticed the Rupes gives necessarily superior results - but, I have noticed it's just more enjoyable and faster to use. That makes it worth it's weight in gold IMHO.
 
This past Saturday I used the Rupes 21 for the first time and found it to be so smooth, only problem with the machine is that the pads stops spinning even on a flat panel using a 5 inch pad.
The GG6 will not bog down, pad spins no matter what.
So which one is better?
Well for light polishing the Rupes is hands down the best but for corrections the GG6 will out perform it.

At first I thought I'd have a difficult time learning to work with its massive throw but it was how to keep the pad spinning.
For the money one would think the Rupes had more power and no issues with keeping the pad spinning.

I have the GG6, if I was to buy a Rupes I'd only use it for light polishing and use the GG6 for corrections.
 
swanicyouth said:
I have both machines as well. I haven't noticed the Rupes gives necessarily superior results - but, I have noticed it's just more enjoyable and faster to use. That makes it worth it's weight in gold IMHO.
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I agree. The larger throw on the Rupes will allow you to correct much faster than a GG6 would.
 
I don't see my Rupes 21 stop on flat panels, which is where I use it most. If there are acres of flat panel, the Rupes comes out. Intricate work, Flex or GG.
 
parttimer said:
I don't see my Rupes 21 stop on flat panels, which is where I use it most. If there are acres of flat panel, the Rupes comes out. Intricate work, Flex or GG.
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I dont see my GG6 stop on flat panels either, even pressing down on it. Its all about the pad your using & technique as well.
 
rstark said:
View attachment 24525I just polished my 2006 Mazda this weekend with my new Rupes and I must say there's a huge difference from my GG6. Both times were done with LC 5.5" flat white pads and Menzerna PF 2500 and Powerlock applied after. The GG6, the paint came out okay but with the Rupes, the gloss was really extra nice. Maybe because in three months, this was the second time polishing the Mazda, but I must say this time was really great. Maybe I didn't use the GG6 patiently and went as slow as I should have.

I don't know. I don't feel like I did anything differently with the Rupes, but who knows. I don't have before pictures, but here is on after (excuse the messy garage). All I know if the car looks really nice.
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Ummmmm, really? Youre comparing a $350 machine to a $140? LOL!
 
HateSwirls said:
This past Saturday I used the Rupes 21 for the first time and found it to be so smooth, only problem with the machine is that the pads stops spinning even on a flat panel using a 5 inch pad.
The GG6 will not bog down, pad spins no matter what.
So which one is better?
Well for light polishing the Rupes is hands down the best but for corrections the GG6 will out perform it.

At first I thought I'd have a difficult time learning to work with its massive throw but it was how to keep the pad spinning.
For the money one would think the Rupes had more power and no issues with keeping the pad spinning.

I have the GG6, if I was to buy a Rupes I'd only use it for light polishing and use the GG6 for corrections.
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You clearly haven't used the Rupes 21 much OR properly if you think it's best for light corrections.
 
I only used it once, the first thing I noticed was how easy the pad stopped spinning, I mean on a flat panel.
At one point there were a scratches that just would come off so I removed them with my GG6.
Like I said for as much as the Rupes cost you would think it would have more power.
Sure you can correct paint just not as fast.

One of the members here was with us, he worked the hood with his Rupes 21, he had a make many passes to get rid of the defects.

On a positive note it's very smooth, covers a big area with its throw.
He was using the Meg's MF cutting pads along with the WG Über.

Is it a good machine?, sure thing but if I had one I'd use it for light defects or on the second step.


MshawnBauer said:
You clearly haven't used the Rupes 21 much OR properly if you think it's best for light corrections.
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MshawnBauer said:
You clearly haven't used the Rupes 21 much OR properly if you think it's best for light corrections.
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:iagree:Technique is Very important. There is a short learning curve for the long stroke. Placing a lot of downward pressure is a hard habit to break.
 
I think someone is pushing down WAY too hard. Let the machine do the work! Let up on the pressure. Not once did I bog down the machine and I corrected my entire car in one quick pass (instead of the 2 or more it would take me with my PC or GC). It's like someone that can't drive a stick shift calling a manual Porsche slow, lol.
 
MshawnBauer said:
I think someone is pushing down WAY too hard. Let the machine do the work! Let up on the pressure. Not once did I bog down the machine and I corrected my entire car in one quick pass (instead of the 2 or more it would take me with my PC or GC). It's like someone that can't drive a stick shift calling a manual Porsche slow, lol.
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I agree. Something ain't right, that's for sure. The Rupes may stop spinning on a super concave panel, but not on a flat panel. I mean, guys have been using these to correct all kinds of jacked up paint. There is a slight learning curve, but it's virtually nil on a flat panel.
 
swanicyouth said:
I agree. Something ain't right, that's for sure. The Rupes may stop spinning on a super concave panel, but not on a flat panel. I mean, guys have been using these to correct all kinds of jacked up paint. There is a slight learning curve, but it's virtually nil on a flat panel.
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Totally! There's no reason to apply that much pressure on a flat panel?! I hate it when a product gets wrongly reviewed because the reviewer isn't using it properly, lol. Here's the vid that made me want the Rupes and it compares it directly to the Griots.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cfYQHCQm8M0&desktop_uri=/watch?v=cfYQHCQm8M0
 
I don't own a Rupes, and I'm no Rupes expert, but recall reading about the washer mod that seems many Rupes owners are doing.

Is this then an important key to then getting better performance from these machines?
Thought I'd bring this up since I haven't seen it mentioned yet?
Mark
 
Maybe we used the wrong pads which was the Meg's MF cutting pads plus the guy who owns it didn't do the mod.
We both tried to figure it out, I found if I lifted up on the back some it helped but the pad wasn't completely flat.
I read where one said its best to use the Rupes pads with the Rupe 21, does it make a difference in performance?

In all fairness I only used it about an hour.
I do wonder if Rupes will start shipping the units with the mod done?



MarkD51 said:
I don't own a Rupes, and I'm no Rupes expert, but recall reading about the washer mod that seems many Rupes owners are doing.

Is this then an important key to then getting better performance from these machines?
Thought I'd bring this up since I haven't seen it mentioned yet?
Mark
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It now seems apparent I didn't know what the hell I was doing with the Rupes. Lol
One thing is certain , the Rupes may be the smoothest machine out there.
I found it to also be well balanced and pretty light.



FivePoint.0 said:
LOL!!! With proper technique, the Rupes 21 will BLOWWWWWWWWWW away the GG6 as far as correction. That's like comparing a pinto to a lambo. Seriously...

Hell, the LHR12 BLEWWWWWWWW away the GG6 as far as correction. Imagine the 21.

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