Sealant comparison

I think I heard they use those color to when kids bathing in bath tubs. Would be testing with a weak solution or maybe your soap dispenser could dilute it enough. Think those dilute it 1:20.
 
Wow that’s a lot of pages. I’ve read about 20 of them. Is there a verdict for best paint sealant?
 
Great job, Rippy...thanks for all the effort you put into this. :props:

I have a question regarding Duragloss PBA (Polish Bonding Agent). Is this a product that can be used ONLY in conjunction with Duragloss products, or can this be used with other waxes and sealants as well? And if so, are there any boundaries or guidelines as to what it will NOT work with? Thanks
 
Tested both cars yesterday. I waited a little too long to test these. Some products will have later end dates than they should.

Rover (Video)
  • DG 104 and CanCoat doing very well. Almost no slowing.
  • OptiSeal still working. About 15 seconds slower than the other two.
Sentra Passenger Side
  • Everything is done
Sentra Driver's side:
  • Opt Spray wax is barely working
  • Everything else is done
 
Jmmtjoy said:
Wow that’s a lot of pages. I’ve read about 20 of them. Is there a verdict for best paint sealant?
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Just realized I had not replied this. SWETM directed you to the spreadsheet. That's the best way to see the results. I have long-winded response in here somewhere about what is "best." It's really a matter of preference. Most of the products I've tested are quite good. A few don't last long, and some seem very over-priced to me.

For long-lasting and easy to apply, Sonax PNS is hard to beat. The past waxes I've tested seem to hold up well also. If you like to apply a sealant more frequently, one of the spray waxes may be better suited. My preference is to use PNS over the winter and use a spray wax or Quick Detailer during the summer. A freshly applied spray seems to make the paint really pop. If I'm washing every week or so it's easy to use a spray sealant as a drying aid and get that great shine.

Sports Fan said:
Great job, Rippy...thanks for all the effort you put into this. :props:

I have a question regarding Duragloss PBA (Polish Bonding Agent). Is this a product that can be used ONLY in conjunction with Duragloss products, or can this be used with other waxes and sealants as well? And if so, are there any boundaries or guidelines as to what it will NOT work with? Thanks
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Per DG, yes it can be used with other products. I'm guessing it would work with any polymer based sealant. Would be good to do some side-by-side testing with and without it to see if it helps with longevity. I like using it with DG products because it takes the cure time down to almost nothing. I can get 2 coats of DG 111 applied with no wait time between them. (Although I'm using PNS more than other sealants now.)
 
Rover video is blocked for me.

Did you ever score the 2 Essence, gloss and plus?

Be cool to see the plus durability and Essence gloss with some sealant like PNS on it. Or would that be cheating?
 
spazzz said:
Rover video is blocked for me.

Did you ever score the 2 Essence, gloss and plus?

Be cool to see the plus durability and Essence gloss with some sealant like PNS on it. Or would that be cheating?
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Think that cruzcarwash use the Essence PNS combo. Even use the PNS to help with the wipe off of Essence IIRC.

If used in testing it could be cheating. On the other hand Essence is not so hydrophobic on it's own what I have heard at least. I will use Essence and a titanium based sealant this spring. And maybe as a base to Polish Angel Master Sealant. The last one I'm not sure about yet. As I really looking forward to see how PA Esclate Lotion and Master Sealant combo is looking on my silver metallic car. Which is known for being a paint color that is hard to get popping looks on. It's gotten harder to get a hold of PNS here in Sweden. Sonax has a line called Extreme which is the line under the Profiline and over the general one. The sealant in that line I think is PNS but called Sonax Protect + Shine. Comes in a kit with product and applicator and towel. Have been wondering about why they are not offering the Extreme line in the US. You have some products from it though like wheel cleaner plus and interior cleaner and the wheel sealant.

RippyD which is the most durable spray wax or QD product that you have been testing?
 
spazzz said:
Rover video is blocked for me.

Did you ever score the 2 Essence, gloss and plus?

Be cool to see the plus durability and Essence gloss with some sealant like PNS on it. Or would that be cheating?
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This video link should work. Too late to go back and edit that post. (Rant: Google Photo should make this stuff dead simple and foolproof. They don't. It's never obvious which photos/vids are shared or not.)
 
SWETM said:
RippyD which is the most durable spray wax or QD product that you have been testing?
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A little hard to answer because I don't entirely trust the hood tests or the products I've tested only once. Not enough runoff on the hood. I'm hoping to get everything re-tested on vertical panels at least twice to validate or correct the results.

Having said that, here's how I would pick for longevity based on the data:

  • 303 Spray Wax looks good for longevity (can't be used as a drying aid)
  • Dodo Future Armour is excellent as well
  • Opt Spray Wax
  • DG 931 as a QD (This should not work this well - I'll keep testing it)
  • Reload
  • Rupes 808? (Has been inconsistent for me - has to be diluted to use as a drying aid)
  • Sonax BSD
A bunch of others seem to be in the 3-4 week range, depending on weather. My go-to has been Aquawax because it's cheap and I think it gives a great shine. This could be placebo effect - I haven't done blind testing side-by-side with another spray wax. When my Aquawax is gone I may switch to Future Armour or Opt. I want a spray that I can use as a drying aid.
 
Update from the 13th:

The doors were quite dirty. I pressure washed, then use a Big Red Sponge with Duragloss Car Wash (the red stuff), then pressure washed to rinse.

Rover (Video)
  • OptiSeal and DG 104 slowing down. DG 104 is a little faster. Both are clearing in ~20 seconds or less
  • CanCoat doing very well and clearing quickly - a little slower than it was initially, but working well
I'm going to guess OptiSeal will be done in the next 2-3 weeks. No idea about DG 104. It's slowing down sooner than I expected.

Will try to several products applied in the next week or so. (I injured my knee and am not sure I can use a polisher. Maybe if I use a stool to sit while I polish?) I'd like to retest some of the products with only 1 test and maybe a couple with questionable results. The exact longevity for each product will vary. I think the trend is generally right, but I just want to be sure since I've switch from using mostly horizontal to exclusively vertical panels.
 
RippyD said:
A little hard to answer because I don't entirely trust the hood tests or the products I've tested only once. Not enough runoff on the hood. I'm hoping to get everything re-tested on vertical panels at least twice to validate or correct the results.

Having said that, here's how I would pick for longevity based on the data:

  • 303 Spray Wax looks good for longevity (can't be used as a drying aid)
  • Dodo Future Armour is excellent as well
  • Opt Spray Wax
  • DG 931 as a QD (This should not work this well - I'll keep testing it)
  • Reload
  • Rupes 808? (Has been inconsistent for me - has to be diluted to use as a drying aid)
  • Sonax BSD
A bunch of others seem to be in the 3-4 week range, depending on weather. My go-to has been Aquawax because it's cheap and I think it gives a great shine. This could be placebo effect - I haven't done blind testing side-by-side with another spray wax. When my Aquawax is gone I may switch to Future Armour or Opt. I want a spray that I can use as a drying aid.
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Thanks again for all you do Rippy!! You got me on the DG931 bandwagon and I have never looked back. Not only does it last longer that it should but I think it has better hydrophobicity than regular Aquawax. Keep testing it!!!!


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Makes no sense to me and every time I test it I'm sure something is wrong. But it keeps performing. Next time I'll do DG931 and AW side by side and we'll see how it goes one more time.

I can't take credit for the DG931 trick. Somebody else here got me to try it. Can't recall who.
 
Retesting 4 products on the Boxster doors. I pressure washed with no soap, then rinseless washed with N914. I didn't do any polishing before applying these. If I recall the last thing applied to this car was Sonax PNS back in October. Spreadsheet has been updated. Link in my sig.

The car got lightly rained on for about 2 hours after I applied these products. It has since been garaged for 36 hours. I'm not sure what impact the rain will have. If these results look too far off I'll toss them out and start over.

DG 931 as QD and DG FC&S + Aquawax (75%/25%) on the driver's door. FC&S toward the front of the car.
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Ultima Spray Wax and Dodo Acrylic Spritz on the passenger door. Dodo toward the front of the car.
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Weather permitting I'll get a few products on the other side of the Rover this weekend. I plan to re-test Rupes 808, McKee's Fast Wax, 303 Spray Wax, Optiseal, BF Crystal Seal, and Opt Spray wax due to the large discrepancies between the longest and shortest times I've gotten for them. Would be good to these dialed in a little better.
 
I'll be interested in seeing the results of that comparison, as I have and use both. FCS / AW is more user-friendly IMO, less sensitive to temp or humidity variations, but your longevity stats with 931 are just amazing.
Thank you again for your diligent work, Sir.

Bill
 
Agree. AW is more more user friendly. 931 as a QD can be quite streaky and take more effort to buff out. AW is magical as a drying aid for me. On dark cars it looks spectacular. I haven't done a visual comparison between the two. I'll ask the wife for an opinion. (She never sees any difference. It's either shiny nor not.)
 
Update from June 2nd:

Cars were not very dirty. I pressure washed, washed with Big Red Sponge and DG Car Wash, then pressure washed to rinse.

The Boxster products aren't showing any difference, including the gaps between them. This isn't going to work. I need to polish and re-apply.

Rover Update (Video)
  • OptiSeal is done. I can't see any significant difference between the product and non-product areas. It did surprisingly well and better than I've seen previously. Have to wonder if using Reset car wash occasionally was a factor.
  • DG 104 is still working quite well with a very defined product area
  • CanCoat still doing the best
Will polish the Boxster doors and re-apply the same products this weekend
 
Got the same products as shown above re-applied to the Boxster. I polished the doors with Menzerna 3800 (1-2 passes) and a white LC pad, then with McKee's Prep Polish and an LC black pad. I left a larger space between the two products this time.

Will test them in a few days.

Rover is doing the same as it was last time. CanCoat doing great, DG 104 doing well. Video here.
 
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