Sealant comparison

Washed doors of both cars with DG car wash (red stuff) using a microfiber towel.

Rover update (hard to see)
  • CanCoat doing well
  • DG 104 a little slower than Can Coat but still doing well
Boxster (video 1 and video 2)
  • DG FC&S + AW (75/25) working, but just barely better than the area with no product. Should have tested sooner.
  • DG 931, Ultima Spray Wax, and Dodo Acrylic Spritz working well with very clear delineation between the areas with and without product
CanCoat continues to work well. I have to wonder if the reason it didn't slow down over Winter is that I used CarPro Reset car wash fairly often. Will see how it does as we move into fall weather. DG 104 is impressive as well, but most of the paste waxes are also good.

In the next couple of weeks I'll apply CanCoat on a clayed and unpolished surface to see how well that works. If Cruz or somebody else has already done this please let me know and I won't take the time.
 
Washed doors of both cars with DG car wash (red stuff) using a microfiber towel.

Rover update (no video this time)
CanCoat doing well
DG 104 a little slower than Can Coat but still doing well

Boxster (Passenger side and driver side)
DG FC&S + AW (75/25) is done. It was close to done last time so I marked it done a couple of days after the last test
DG 931 obviously working, but not the fastest clearing
Ultima Spray Wax and Dodo Acrylic Spritz working well with very clear delineation between the products

I'll get more products applied once it stops raining every other day.
 
Added 3 more sealants (re-tests) and a new coating yesterday. Did all the prep work to remove any previous products, and got the products carefully applied and documented. Was going to post this morning. Woke up to unforecasted rain. Will have to remove them and re-apply. :rolleyes:
 
If you experience a slow down on the beading it can be the DG car soap 901. It claims to have glossenhancer as I understand the description of it. And it also seems to have something in it that makes it to sheet the water off. As you would get less water to dry. It can be that it's interfear with your testing. I know there are other car soaps like that which have that self drying claim on them. It's just a friendly heads up. Don't think that it's effect is long lasting though. But if testing it right after the wash and you can have it left on the paint. Have you noticed more sheeting from the products you have tested before when you have used the DG car soap?

Still awesome to read and look at your updates of testing. Bummer on the rain coming in and mess with the curing. Hope you get it when you re-doing it.

/ Tony
 
SWETM said:
If you experience a slow down on the beading it can be the DG car soap 901. It claims to have glossenhancer as I understand the description of it. And it also seems to have something in it that makes it to sheet the water off. As you would get less water to dry. It can be that it's interfear with your testing. I know there are other car soaps like that which have that self drying claim on them. It's just a friendly heads up. Don't think that it's effect is long lasting though. But if testing it right after the wash and you can have it left on the paint. Have you noticed more sheeting from the products you have tested before when you have used the DG car soap?

Still awesome to read and look at your updates of testing. Bummer on the rain coming in and mess with the curing. Hope you get it when you re-doing it.

/ Tony
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Good catch, Tony. I somehow hadn't noticed that before. I haven't noticed any difference in water behavior when using the DG car soap, but it seems like a good idea to excluding it from washing test panels going forward.

Interesting that you mention this. I was concerned previously with N-914 interfering with tests. For this reason I washed the Rover panels with all 3 car soaps a couple of weeks ago to see if there was any difference. I didn't notice. Still seems prudent to stop using the DG soap.
 
CarPro Reset and Meguiar's D110 Hyper-Wash are two car wash solutions that are pretty widely regarded as rinsing cleanly leaving nothing behind (no gloss enhancers, wax, etc).
 
Washed both cars with Carpro Reset before testing.

Rover update (no video)
  • CanCoat doing well
  • DG 104 a little slower than Can Coat but still doing well
Boxster (Passenger side and driver side)
  • DG 931 still working but not the fastest clearing
  • Ultima Spray Wax doing well
  • Dodo Acrylic Spritz working well
Added a few more to the drivers side of the Rover. Front is toward the left. I didn't clay or polish before applying these. I pressure washed after washing with Reset and didn't see any obvious product on the doors. I'm hoping none of these last more than 3-4 weeks so I can get another few products tested on that side before Winter gets here.

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I forgot that re-applied some products on the passenger side of the Rover. I added these a week or so ago and then it unexpectedly rained. I polished off the products with a black pad and DG Squeaky Clean (love this stuff). Then washed with Reset and pressure washed to make sure the products were gone based on water behavior.

I re-applied Polish Angel Cosmic Spritz, Sonus Spritz, and Sonus Glanz.

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The Rover currently has
  • CanCoat
  • DG 104
  • DG 521
  • Prima Slick
  • Prima Hydro
  • Mothers California Gold Spray Wax
  • Mothers Speed Spray Wax
  • Griots Spray-On Wax
  • Polish Angel Cosmic Spritz
  • Sonus Acrylic Spritz
  • Sonus Acrylic Glanz
The Boxster currently has
  • DG 931 as a QD
  • Ultima Spray Wax
  • Dodo Acrylic Spritz
 
Checked the products today. Pressure washed with water only, then washed with Carpro Reset, then pressure washed to rinse.

Boxster update (driver and passenger side)
  • DG 931 obviously working, but not the fastest clearing
  • Ultima Spray Wax working well
  • Dodo Acrylic Spritz working well
Rover update (driver and passenger side)
  • CanCoat doing well
  • DG 104 has slowed more and I'm calling it done
  • Polish Angel Cosmic Spritz doing well - it beads rather than sheeting, but is doing so quickly
  • Sonus Acrylic Spritz not doing well - this could be done
  • Sonus Acrylic Glanz not doing well - this could also be done
  • DG 521 - working a little - could be done
  • Prima Slick - definitely done
  • Prima Hydro - working well
  • Mothers California Gold Spray Wax - working ok
  • Mothers Speed Spray Wax - barely working
  • Griots Spray-On Wax - barely working
 
Washed the Rover the other day with CarPro Reset. It got rained on and as too dirty to use N-914. Boxster is with the wife. I won't get to it until this weekend.

Rover update (driver and passenger side)
  • CanCoat doing ok - this is finally starting to slow down a little
  • Polish Angel Cosmic Spritz doing well
  • Sonus Acrylic Spritz is done
  • Sonus Acrylic Glanz is done
  • DG 521 is done
  • Prima Hydro - barely working
  • Mothers California Gold Spray Wax - barely working
  • Mothers Speed Spray Wax done
  • Griots Spray-On Wax - barely working
I'm being as generous as I can with Prima Hydro, Mother's California gold, and Griots Spray-on. I'm saying they're working because they're sheeting faster than the adjacent products but are still slow. I'll test these again this weekend.

Spreadsheet is updated.
 
Maybe not fair, but, what would you recommend for ease of application and reasonable life????? Ceramic coated car.

Thanks.


RippyD said:
Washed the Rover the other day with CarPro Reset. It got rained on and as too dirty to use N-914. Boxster is with the wife. I won't get to it until this weekend.

Rover update (driver and passenger side)
  • CanCoat doing ok - this is finally starting to slow down a little
  • Polish Angel Cosmic Spritz doing well
  • Sonus Acrylic Spritz is done
  • Sonus Acrylic Glanz is done
  • DG 521 is done
  • Prima Hydro - barely working
  • Mothers California Gold Spray Wax - barely working
  • Mothers Speed Spray Wax done
  • Griots Spray-On Wax - barely working
I'm being as generous as I can with Prima Hydro, Mother's California gold, and Griots Spray-on. I'm saying they're working because they're sheeting faster than the adjacent products but are still slow. I'll test these again this weekend.

Spreadsheet is updated.
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abqhudson said:
Maybe not fair, but, what would you recommend for ease of application and reasonable life????? Ceramic coated car.
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Over a coated car I really don't know. I can't say how any of these will perform over a coating. If you assume it's the same as going over clear coat, I like Sonax PNS for ease of application and longevity. I also like Dodo Acrylic Spritz for the same reasons.

My POV is that there's little value to putting a sealant over a coating, except in the case where it needs some protection to cure.
 
Tested both the Boxster and the Rover. Washed with McKee's N-914.

Added a couple of additional products the Rover: DuraGloss Coating and another coating I'll call MS #5 (it's called a coating by I'm sure it's a sealant.) I added these to the rear panel on both sides. The passenger side was washed only. The driver side got washed, clayed, polished with HD Polish/white LC pad and then DG Squeaky Clean/LC black pad. I wanted to see how these would perform on polished paint vs. unpolished. These are applied to the same area on both sides. The passenger side was applied 3 weeks ago. The driver side was applied yesterday.

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Boxster update (driver and passenger side)
  • DG 931 is still hanging on - not working well, but very clearly working
  • Ultima Spray Wax is barely working - calling it done
  • Dodo Acrylic Spritz is done
Rover update (driver and passenger side)
  • CanCoat doing ok
  • Polish Angel Cosmic Spritz still doing well
  • Prima Hydro - slow but still working
  • Mothers California Gold Spray Wax is done
  • Griots Spray-On Wax is done
  • MS #5 passenger side doing well
  • DG coating passenger side doing well
 
Will be very interesting to see if it's any difference in the longevity between preped panel vs unpreped.
 
Agree. Got the idea from Cruzscarwash. Should have noted that my DG Coating is also a couple of years old, so we'll have to see how it does. I had it sealed up well and it's remained liquid, so hoping it's ok. I was planning to use CanCoat but the sample I had was ~50% solidified.
 
RippyD said:
Agree. Got the idea from Cruzscarwash. Should have noted that my DG Coating is also a couple of years old, so we'll have to see how it does. I had it sealed up well and it's remained liquid, so hoping it's ok. I was planning to use CanCoat but the sample I had was ~50% solidified.
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Yeah that's the sad part with most SiO2 products when you like to testing products they goes bad too soon. Since you don't use much of product with spray products. Have some products that I'm afraid will go bad soon. Try to use them as often as I can. But it's fun to see how long they lasts too LOL.

Hope your DG coating is still useable.
 
I guess we'll see how it holds up. It comes in a metal bottle and I've kept it sealed tight. Doesn't appear to have solidified and looks ok. This is more of a comparison of performance on a polished vs. unpolished panel.

And I hope it doesn't last 40+ weeks. I'm glad to see products last a long time but am always eager to get more tests done. The long lasting products take up valuable space.
 
Washed both cars with CarPro reload. Used a Big Red Sponge (aka BRS) on the Rover and MF towels on the Boxster. Pressure washed both first.

Boxster update (driver and passenger side)
  • DG 931 is still hanging on. I really want to call it done, but it's not there yet
Rover update (driver and passenger) side
  • CanCoat doing ok
  • Polish Angel Cosmic Spritz still doing well
  • Prima Hydro - slow but still working
  • MS #5 passenger and driver sides doing well
  • DG coating passenger and driver sides doing well
It would be great if somebody else could test DG 931 and prove me wrong. It seems like it just can't work as well as it does. One note: Applied it to the rest of the Boxster today (not the doors) on a ~70 degree cloudy day. Had to buff off a lot of streaking. Best to use this stuff out of the sun, smaller sections, and make sure you wipe it until dry.
 
Washed both cars with CarPro reload again. Used a Big Red Sponge (aka BRS) on the Rover and MF towels on the Boxster. Pressure washed both first.

Boxster update (driver side)
  • DG 931 - calling it done. Still moving water faster than the rest of the door but has slowed considerably
Rover update (driver and passenger side)
  • CanCoat doing ok
  • Polish Angel Cosmic doing ok
  • Prima Hydro - slowing and guessing it will be done next time
  • MS #5 passenger and driver sides doing well
  • DG coating passenger and driver sides doing well
 
No products currently being tested on the Boxster. Pressure washed the Rover and washed with CarPro Reset and a BRS.

Rover update (driver and passenger side)
  • CanCoat doing ok
  • Polish Angel Cosmic doing ok
  • Prima Hydro - barely working and calling it done
  • MS #5 passenger and driver sides doing well
  • DG coating passenger and driver sides doing well
I polished the driver side of the Rover with DG Squeaky Clean and a black pad, then washed it with Reset, then checked with the pressure washer to make sure the water action was slow and consistent on both doors.

I taped it up to add 6 more durable products to test over the Winter. Below the horizontal tape I applied DG 601 (polish bonding agent). The idea is to see if it helps with longevity. I applied all the sealants per instructions. I gave them all 30+ minutes to cure in 80+ degree weather. They were all dry when I removed them. I over-applied FK 1000P a little and it was harder to remove, but not difficult. I may have under applied Sonax SFX-4 and Track Claw. They all wiped off fine with no streaking and polished up as expected. We'll see how they do over the next few months.

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The new list of products for the Rover is:
  • CanCoat
  • Polish Angel Cosmic
  • MS #5 passenger and driver sides doing well
  • DG coating passenger and driver sides doing well
  • Collinite 845
  • Track Claw
  • Sonus SFX-4
  • Finish Kare 1000P
  • Duragloss 104
  • Collinite 845
 
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