Today's Tragedy

That is the best answer I heard so far. They pass out gun permits here to convicted felons/mentally ill on a regular basis. You see it in the news all the time

Again... further misinformation. All those who wish to purchase a handgun or rifle from an FFL, must pass an NICS check. If by some chance, there is an issue with that person that does not flag on an NICS, blame the agency... not the guns. IF somehow a convicted felon received a "permit", there is a CATASTROPHIC failure in procedure in your part of town.

Private sales vary from state to state. I will concede, however, that private sales should conform to the same standards as a retail sale - a simple background check. I will also add that there needs to be a way to combine mental health records with the NICS system
 
it is people's hearts that are the problem, they choose to do vile things with an instrument designed to protect us, that knucklehead could have loaded a car with explosives and played Kamikaze with it.

Indeed. Pro gun to people who are actually IN THE INTEREST of protecting America against foreign and domestic threats, and ANTI GUN against those who threaten american citizens and our way of life. Thats what It comes down to folks.
 
Some schools have an RSO (School Resource Officer) on the premises during school hours as protection. I am sure there will new procedures at schools based upon this incident such as adding RSO program. Of course, the Federal government could mandate (attached to Federal funding) it.
 
Some schools have an RSO (School Resource Officer) on the premises during school hours as protection. I am sure there will new procedures at schools based upon this incident such as adding RSO program. Of course, the Federal government could mandate (attached to Federal funding) it.


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Protective parent on a field trip in Israel. Times are changing.
 
Some schools have an RSO (School Resource Officer) on the premises during school hours as protection. I am sure there will new procedures at schools based upon this incident such as adding RSO program. Of course, the Federal government could mandate (attached to Federal funding) it.

Yes you are correct. Some schools here in Cali have active duty police officers that work in the schools. They should implement these as a standard throughout public installations that crazies take advantage of causing mass casualties. Is it the answer? Of course not, but it serves as a deterrant IMO. The harsh reality is that there will be more incidents like these, alot more often.
 
Would any of you agree that this animal that killed these innocent children and adults was a criminal before he committed these murders? (Honest question deserving an honest reply. If you don't know, just say so.)
 
Would any of you agree that this animal that killed these innocent children and adults was a criminal before he committed these murders? (Honest question deserving an honest reply. If you don't know, just say so.)

Do we know if he has a criminal record prior to his killing spree? I do not know. If you mean was he a bad person prior to his killing spree? I do not know. Do I believe he was not right in the head - yes.
 
Think about the question. I did not ask about a criminal record. I asked if anyone would agree that he was a criminal before committing murder.
 
Think about the question. I did not ask about a criminal record. I asked if anyone would agree that he was a criminal before committing murder.

We are all criminals if you really think about it. Whats your angle?
 
Think about the question. I did not ask about a criminal record. I asked if anyone would agree that he was a criminal before committing murder.

I did. Being a "criminal" would imply that he has a criminal record... does it not? A criminal record is obtained by committing crimes. Correct?

Perhaps you mean has he committed crimes for which he was not arrested or prosecuted for?

Definition:

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From what I understand the school was locked, he shot the doors to get in. Dude was on a mission. Hope he rots.
 
From what I understand the school was locked, he shot the doors to get in. Dude was on a mission. Hope he rots.

There's quite a bit of conflicting information out there and only those close to the investigation know for sure at this point. I know emotions are running high as this is a horrible event, but speculation, rumor and "I read on the internet" doesn't clarify any of the events and only causes more uproar.
 
A locked door and an armed security guard is not going to stop someone who is determined to gain entry into a building

Anyone have any other ideas?
 
Would any of you agree that this animal that killed these innocent children and adults was a criminal before he committed these murders? (Honest question deserving an honest reply. If you don't know, just say so.)

Not so sure a criminal, a mental case maybe or a medical problem. I have had relatives that had minor strokes that changed their personality and thought process. I have not seen the news or heard any reports lately so I am just stating possibilities. To shoot your Mother in the face twice and then go to the school is beyond my comprehension of this guy.

Dave
 
A locked door and an armed security guard is not going to stop someone who is determined to gain entry into a building

Anyone have any other ideas?

An armed guard with proper training and the willingness to use deadly force in order to stop an eminent threat... it goes a long way.

Layered security, restricted access, gates... that's the world we live in. There is evil in this world... we just have to learn how to deal with it.

Vigilance... stepping up and letting the proper authorities know someone may have potential mental health issues... say a close family member.

The general public has to be proactive... stop thinking someone else will say something to the playground bully... Step up.

It has to be treated like the war on terror.
 
I don't think this should be turned into a pro gun anti gun discussion. If a person wants a gun bad enough we all know they can get it. Money talks. This was a tragedy no doubt. This is a community that will not ever be the same. This will be something that social structure will be judged for years to come. Our children's schools will be set to protect and educate vs just educate. He was a mentally ill 20 year old. Maybe misdiagnosed schizophrenia vs mild autism. The bottom line is if he wanted a gun he would have gotten one. My heart goes out to those effected by this.
 
I've been around for a good long time and I can tell you these mass shootings are new to America and only began 25 years or so ago. I feel much of what we're witnessing today can be squarely shouldered on the media..

In the back of our minds there's not one of us would like noting better than to understand why Adam Lanza planned and executed such a diabolical chain of events that will never be forgotten.

It's clear that Adam had some serious issues that either went undetected or perhaps a genetic flaw that predisposed him to this type of behavior. Teenagers thrive on attention and what better way to see yourself then on National Television.

Each time a shooting like this takes place the reporting media is like a sharks feeding frenzy. The sensationalize every aspect of the event and many times it's little more than shear speculation and often times wrong.

I feel the way the media reports these events had a lot to do with future shooting or evens of mass carnage. The media glorifies these shooters reporting their name, age, where they live, photos, and everything they can come up with. "Everyone will know me"

Of the last 3 shootings can you remember just 1 of the victims names? I can't....all I remember is:

Adam Lanza
Cho Seung-Hui
Dylan Klebold & Eric Harris

Perhaps if the media reported an incident focusing only on the victims rather than immortalizing and glorifying the killer there might just be fewer of these because there would be no spotlights for them, only the victims and sorrow for those that died....
 
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