Tried the Big Red Sponge today...

Finick said:
That sounds so very tedious lol, but I guess I get it. The way I’ve done it forever just seems really intuitive, and I do trust the product to work.

On the topic of washing methods, when using a waterless wash do you use the common method I see of slowly rolling the towel? I know you talk about spraying the entire side of a vehicle and quickly wash it, was just wondering your method




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Oh I’m not very “careful” at all actually. If you were to see my towels after doing a waterless wash you’d think I was crazy. Lol. [well maybe not you, but most people would]
 
Eldorado2k said:
Oh I’m not very “careful” at all actually. If you were to see my towels after doing a waterless wash you’d think I was crazy. Lol. [well maybe not you, but most people would]
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Okay, I kind of had a feeling lol.

I had recently started to try and get more into waterless washes. I tried the towel rolling method, and it was just so time consuming.

Now I just liberally spray the panel, and glide the towel over the panel like I do a rinseless wash, and I’ll check it every so often to see if it looks gross, and if it does I’ll finally flip it. Seems really quick doing it this way, and I haven’t noticed any marring doing it this way yet either


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I recently bought and used the big red sponge.

I used it on my personal jeep that is about 75% free of defects (no swirls) just some isolated deeper ones.

I used N914 and the big red sponge. I pre soaked with a pump sprayer and did straight line snake pattern passes.

I was not really "careful" and infact was kind of reckless to test the sponge.

No marring or swirl marks were instilled with my washes.

The reason I bought the big red sponge is for a numerous amount of reasons.

1. Not having to wash mitts and towels.

2. On mobile jobs I can simply ring it out and its dry. I do not have to haul around wet wash media.

3. Rinseless washing in the shop is much easier IMO. I dont know why Its just faster.

4. I dont really care if it scratches or marrs the cars i prep. I am going to be polishing them anyway. Quite frankly the reality is even our "most wreckless wash" is more than likely the most gentle safest wash the car has ever gotten its entire life, And that is just the reality.

I for one am a fan of the sponge.

If i was washing flawless paint and it was pretty dirty I would not use the sponge. There is certain situations where the sponge is ideal and some maybe not.

Thats my 2 cents.

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Finick said:
Okay, I kind of had a feeling lol.

I had recently started to try and get more into waterless washes. I tried the towel rolling method, and it was just so time consuming.

Now I just liberally spray the panel, and glide the towel over the panel like I do a rinseless wash, and I’ll check it every so often to see if it looks gross, and if it does I’ll finally flip it. Seems really quick doing it this way, and I haven’t noticed any marring doing it this way yet either


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Yup, that sounds alot like me. 1 thing I do is spray plenty of liquid that’s for sure. I spray down the entire side of the vehicle and do the fender, check the towel, if it’s not too bad I use that same side to wipe the rocker panels, flip, do the frent door, flip, back door, filp, quarter panel, then drying towel. Super fast. Never see me rolling no towel. Lol.

On average I go through the whole 1.5L Kwazar Pressure Sprayer when I do a waterless. And that doesn’t include windows or wheels.
 
Eldorado2k said:
Yup, that sounds alot like me. 1 thing I do is spray plenty of liquid that’s for sure. I spray down the entire side of the vehicle and do the fender, check the towel, if it’s not too bad I use that same side to wipe the rocker panels, flip, do the frent door, flip, back door, filp, quarter panel, then drying towel. Super fast. Never see me rolling no towel. Lol.

On average I go through the whole 1.5L Kwazar Pressure Sprayer when I do a waterless. And that doesn’t include windows or wheels.
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Maybe I should step up my game with the WW I only use about 16-20oz to lay down an even coat onto my car. Granted I haven’t done a waterless wash when it’s actually dirty, maybe just dusty+ level dirty.

I will say about the sponge though; I’m washing every car around the house more often since I just have it mixed up and sitting in the bucket in the garage. No set up necessary other than grabbing a couple towels and d156, it’s been pretty nice. 4 gallons of solution has net me 5 washes so far. Maybe I’ll change it out later and grab a picture of the goodies in the bottom of my bucket for everyone.

I’m hoping to use more WW this spring/summer though.


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Klasse Act said:
I am referring to in all purpose cleaner on a car.

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Before onr right? Why not use a traditional wash on a hammered car where you don't have to use a apc. This is what we're talking about right? Maybe I got lost somewhere and let me explain that I have never ever been in or around a water restriction or a major drought. I feel(also sometimes envy) for you guys in Cali and I'm sure you guys do what you have to do so I cannot comment that. I guess my point I'm trying to make is if a car is to filthy don't try to use a apc/onr .....pressure washer ftw
 
Stopped using 2bw method. Rinseless or regular wash I just use 1 bucket and rinse my wash media with a hose before I dunk it back in the bucket

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Yeah, a traditional 2BM is what I would do on a dirty car. I would use an APC if I were doing a wax job on a car and I know it was really bad and/or could see "stuff" on it. Also if I were doing a massive detail to the exterior.

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ONR works well with the BRS. The idea is that the sponge will get some of the dirt, and then the ONR will seperate the dirt from the paint and encapsulate them in polymers. You can just go over the panel a few times to make it easier for you, less dirt on your drying towel. I would have no issue washing my car with the BRS and ONR, and I do frequently. Well I wash the Lexus with the BRS and ONR since there's still GlossCoat on it. The Mazda I just do towels with N914 since it has Cquartz UK on it. You can test this on a test panel if you want or on a car you're going to polish anyways. I've done this as a test. I've dropped the BRS with ONR in it on my lawn, picked it up, picked off any grass or organic pieces stuck on it and then dunked it back in and after squeezing out any dirt in it and rubbing the sponge on the gritgard, washed a swirl free panel and scrubbed the panel in fact, and it's fine. I would suggest anyone who has a test hood or something to perform this test.
 
Rrthomas78 said:
Before onr right? Why not use a traditional wash on a hammered car where you don't have to use a apc. This is what we're talking about right? Maybe I got lost somewhere and let me explain that I have never ever been in or around a water restriction or a major drought. I feel(also sometimes envy) for you guys in Cali and I'm sure you guys do what you have to do so I cannot comment that. I guess my point I'm trying to make is if a car is to filthy don't try to use a apc/onr .....pressure washer ftw
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Try a conventional wash with 600ppm water in 100F+ weather, in the sun. That's what it's like here.

Haven't done a single conventional wash since the first time I tried rinseless. Less water and the entire process can be done in the garage. No water spots with ONR either.

In cooler weather I'll breakout the foam cannon once in a while to get into the seams better.

An airless paint sprayer takes ONR to an entirely different level....
 
Tempest45 said:
Haven't done a single conventional wash since the first time I tried rinseless. Less water and the entire process can be done in the garage. No water spots with ONR either.
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My favorite part about rinseless is that I can just go panel by panel and take my time.

When I do a traditional wash I end up feeling so rushed, and it’s not always an enjoyable experience.

But with rinseless if something comes up and I need to stop to do something, it’s not an issue. I can just finish when I’m done. Granted, that’s not often, but I still prefer to have the option.


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I’ve used the BRS with ONR (single bucket) with no ill effects. I put on a lot of miles, so ample road film to work through (you wouldn’t confuse the before and after, that’s for sure).

Presoak with ONR in hand held pump up sprayer, BRS letting the surface of the sponge do the work- not squeezing the sponge against the paint, squeezing the sponge to control dispensing liquid on the surface. Maybe that’s where folks that are running into marring are getting it- pushing the sponge too hard into the paint?

I also can’t say that I’ve noticed my chaser towel ending up picking up a lot of dirt?

Right now my car is MN winter dirty. At the start of the winter I got rear ended, so my hatch and rear bumper got damaged. I’m really tempted to do an ONR/BRS torture test back there and see how it goes...
 
This thread has made me somewhat intrigued by this whole sponge thing and I’m considering maybe checking it out... But I just noticed that Lake Country has what looks like a similar sponge at a fraction of the cost. I’ve come to trust Lake Country as I’m sure most of you do as well, so I’m assuming the Lake Country Foam Car Wash Sponge is legit? According to the reviews it sure seems like it + its been available for years. Hidden gem?

The sweet price of $5.99 is enough to make me cross over the fence. Now yer talkin!

https://www.autogeek.net/car-wash-sponge.html

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Eldorado2k said:
This thread has made me somewhat intrigued by this whole sponge thing and I’m considering maybe checking it out... But I just noticed that Lake Country has what looks like a similar sponge at a fraction of the cost. I’ve come to trust Lake Country as I’m sure most of you do as well, so I’m assuming the Lake Country Foam Car Wash Sponge is legit? According to the reviews it sure seems like it + its been available for years. Hidden gem?

The sweet price of $5.99 is enough to make me cross over the fence. Now yer talkin!

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The Lake Country sponge is definitely a better value, I have two of them. But it's much firmer than the BRS. I find it better with regular car wash than with rinseless wash, but it's a cool tool. Enjoy!
 
HAMBO said:
The Lake Country sponge is definitely a better value, I have two of them. But it's much firmer than the BRS. I find it better with regular car wash than with rinseless wash, but it's a cool tool. Enjoy!
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Thanks for the feedback.
 
Aqua sponge, trust me guys!

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The lake country sponge is what I actually use. I prefer it to the brs because it's firmer. I have one for the car and one for the rims/wheelwells.
 
Other than the price of the big red sponge which is ridiculous I never had any issues and I use it on a black vehicle.
 
Klasse Act said:
Aqua sponge, trust me guys!

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Dude, you’re always talking about stuff that doesn’t even exist. Lol.
Alien Kleen, Power Clean, and now Aqua Sponge....

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What in world are you talking about
 
Alien Kleen is what a forum member called Optimum Power Clean years ago, been on the forum for over 6 years and the nickname always stuck. A simple PM will always solve this, LOL.

The Aqua sponge is on Ebay and Amazon, AG doesn't sell grout sponges so you have to go elsewhere, surely your a resourceful person, I'm sure of it.

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