Trim/Plastic Restorers - 4 different products

Setec Astronomy said:
There are many different plastics/textures, but IMO none of these products can/do "soak in" to exterior cladding materials as the OP applied to.



It's a little unclear to me from your initial post, and I don't have time to scrutinize the thread, I have used both the Black Wow and Poorboy's TR (although not extensively) and I believe the instructions for both are to buff dry. If you don't they will run or spot, as they are both silicone oils. The Ultima is different in the way the Meg's Ultimate Trim product is different from the oil-based products, and IME (with the Meg's) will last longer than the oils, but not that much longer (weeks to months).



I have some and will use soon, but IMO the "ultimate" product for this will be Opti-Coat 2.0...which I probably won't use on trim for a while because of that pesky bottle of C4 I bought...
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The Black Wow directions didn't mention anything about buffing it off. It just said to rub it into the material.

I did buff off the poorboys, but it still ran.
 
SeaJay's said:
The Black Wow directions didn't mention anything about buffing it off. It just said to rub it into the material.

I did buff off the poorboys, but it still ran.
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From the AG Black Wow product page: " Buff off excess with a lint-free microfiber cloth. (Use a separate towel than the ones you use on the paint.) "

But whatever...when I said I hadn't used these products extensively...it's because I tried them both and got the same mediocre results you did. There is an Autoglym trim product which is similar but seemed to be a little better...but IMO if you've got $50 for a bottle of C4 or $60 for a syringe of Opti-Coat...that's better than effectively wasting your money on these short-lived products. I'm sure Black Wow is a lot more impressive in dryer climates than we have here on the east coast.

 
Setec Astronomy said:
From the AG Black Wow product page: " Buff off excess with a lint-free microfiber cloth. (Use a separate towel than the ones you use on the paint.) "

But whatever...when I said I hadn't used these products extensively...it's because I tried them both and got the same mediocre results you did. There is an Autoglym trim product which is similar but seemed to be a little better...but IMO if you've got $50 for a bottle of C4 or $60 for a syringe of Opti-Coat...that's better than effectively wasting your money on these short-lived products. I'm sure Black Wow is a lot more impressive in dryer climates than we have here on the east coast.
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Obviously I missed that...I'll have to look at my bottle again. Which could explain the oily spots maybe?

Either way you may be right. I still have faith in the Ultima. We'll see.
 
SeaJay's said:
Obviously I missed that...I'll have to look at my bottle again. Which could explain the oily spots maybe?

Either way you may be right. I still have faith in the Ultima. We'll see.
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Yes, I'd say that explains the oily spots. I like that Meg's Ultimate trim stuff, it does seem to last a couple of months, and the Ultima may be even better, but I mostly use these kinds of products on windshield cowlings that have ridges and slots and hard to reach areas, so the appeal of having a permanent or at least 2 year (C4) solution is pretty strong...
 
Keep the results coming. I find different products react differently with different plastics.
 
Thanks for the update Jason! Looking forward to future updates as well.

I agree Al.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
There are many different plastics/textures, but IMO none of these products can/do "soak in" to exterior cladding materials as the OP applied to.



It's a little unclear to me from your initial post, and I don't have time to scrutinize the thread, I have used both the Black Wow and Poorboy's TR (although not extensively) and I believe the instructions for both are to buff dry. If you don't they will run or spot, as they are both silicone oils. The Ultima is different in the way the Meg's Ultimate Trim product is different from the oil-based products, and IME (with the Meg's) will last longer than the oils, but not that much longer (weeks to months).



I have some and will use soon, but IMO the "ultimate" product for this will be Opti-Coat 2.0...which I probably won't use on trim for a while because of that pesky bottle of C4 I bought...
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The C4 darkens trim. I wouldnt rule it out too soon!
 
I seemed to have bad luck with PB Trim Restorer back in the day, I could never get to not run even after buffing when it rained, and it would fade off quickly but only on trucks, other vehicles seemed fine. But I remember others on here saying the same thing with Ford trucks, something in the trim just rejects a lot of products.

Always wanted to try out Black Wow.
 
I'll be trying uttg and black wow on ford soon . I'll try to give an update. all I ever have used before is back to "faded"
 
Surfer said:
I seemed to have bad luck with PB Trim Restorer back in the day, I could never get to not run even after buffing when it rained, and it would fade off quickly but only on trucks, other vehicles seemed fine. But I remember others on here saying the same thing with Ford trucks, something in the trim just rejects a lot of products.

Always wanted to try out Black Wow.
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On my Dakota mirrors, I did a side by side with BW and PB's. The PB's looked slightly better but they both ran slightly.

I tried the UTTG and it looked about as good but it does not seem to run. It was also more difficult to apply...massaging it in to get it to work.

The Dakota mirrors are made from a harder more rigid plastic than other plastics and less responsive to products.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Yes, I'd say that explains the oily spots. I like that Meg's Ultimate trim stuff, it does seem to last a couple of months, and the Ultima may be even better, but I mostly use these kinds of products on windshield cowlings that have ridges and slots and hard to reach areas, so the appeal of having a permanent or at least 2 year (C4) solution is pretty strong...
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Alright well I looked at my bottle of Black Wow and no where on the bottle does it state to buff off (or even wipe off). However, the directions on the AG website in the description of the product does say to wipe off. then if you applying it prior to washing the car to buff off the excess.

My bottles directions are exactly this:

Work sesame seed sized drops into material and allow to fully absorb. Repeat as necessary. For best results, multiple application over time is better than all at one time. Allow at least 4 to 5 hours to absorb before getting wet.

I followed the directions on the bottle. Obviously I should have wiped the excess off and I probably wouldn't have ended up with the oily spots so much. So, for those trying Black Wow ensure you wipe off excess to ensure you get a matte finish. (your bottle may not say it either).

Just as an update the Ultima is still holding up well. Hasn't faded much more than what it was the other day. Everything else is about the same as well. I plan to hopefully wash the truck in next day or 2. I'll post some updates then.
 
subscribed - not thrilled with megs UP, 303, or black again for exterior trim. wanna see how things turn out in the long run here.
 
Great review. I'm interested in seeing how long the Ultima lasts. My wife has a Mini Cooper S and the plastic wheel arches are a PAIN! I've used black wow and it didn't seem to last that long. Instead, i've been using DP tire shine gel and it seems to last the longest and has the perfect sheen for them. Too bad that the longest it lasts is about a month on the trim :(
 
D_Nyholm said:
Great review. I'm interested in seeing how long the Ultima lasts. My wife has a Mini Cooper S and the plastic wheel arches are a PAIN! I've used black wow and it didn't seem to last that long. Instead, i've been using DP tire shine gel and it seems to last the longest and has the perfect sheen for them. Too bad that the longest it lasts is about a month on the trim :(
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So far it's holding up pretty well. Hasn't faded much since application either. I need to wash it, hopefully tomorrow if it doesn't rain.

I'll hopefully get some updated pics in the next couple days.
 
Update:

Well it's been a few weeks since I applied the 4 different products. I don't have any pics as of right now. We have been getting rain for the past few days.

The UTTG is still holding up perfectly. The color hasn't faded any more and it beads like crazy in the rain. Definitely showing that it's well worth the money IMO.

The RaggTopp is just about completely gone and it's barely beading water.

The Poorboys has faded a lot but it's still beading water pretty well.

Black Wow has faded some but the oily spots are still dark, and the whole section is still beading water pretty well. This one is closest to the beading action of the UTTG, but UTTG still has the edge.

I'll get some pics as soon as I can to post.
 
D_Nyholm said:
Great review. I'm interested in seeing how long the Ultima lasts. My wife has a Mini Cooper S and the plastic wheel arches are a PAIN! I've used black wow and it didn't seem to last that long. Instead, i've been using DP tire shine gel and it seems to last the longest and has the perfect sheen for them. Too bad that the longest it lasts is about a month on the trim :(
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Hmmm...sounds like a candidate for C4!
 
how does plastic look being coated with opt-coat?




i did a test piece with black wow on part of my bumper...i didnt find it hard to apply but it has faded a tad. but its been raining alot in nj the past week. a downpour last weeked clean the oil residue off. its beads like crazy
 
richy said:
Hmmm...sounds like a candidate for C4!
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Yeah, im thinking that, but after buying opti coat, I may have to wait a little to get the C4! :)

Though I am thinking of putting some UTTG in my next order, it is looking promising!!
 
SeaJay's said:
Update:

Well it's been a few weeks since I applied the 4 different products. I don't have any pics as of right now. We have been getting rain for the past few days.

The UTTG is still holding up perfectly. The color hasn't faded any more and it beads like crazy in the rain. Definitely showing that it's well worth the money IMO.

The RaggTopp is just about completely gone and it's barely beading water.

The Poorboys has faded a lot but it's still beading water pretty well.

Black Wow has faded some but the oily spots are still dark, and the whole section is still beading water pretty well. This one is closest to the beading action of the UTTG, but UTTG still has the edge.

I'll get some pics as soon as I can to post.
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Thanks for the updates Jason. I look forward to the pictures. Those wide open areas in your test will really show the difference well. Now is when the UTTG really starts to dominate the game.
 
I don't think it says anywhere on UTTG page, but anyone have any idea if you can use UTTG on a vinyl tonneau. I've tried 303 and Tonneau Tonic. I haven't been too impressed with either and neither have lasted that long and they both run down the sides of my truck. Even if UTTG would run down the sides, it wouldn't bother me to use a little QD to clean it off if it lasted longer.

I hope no one feels that I am trying to hijack SeaJays thread, just got me curious about UTTG on a tonneau.

Thanks:xyxthumbs:
 
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