Turtle Wax Seal and Shine

Coatingsarecrack said:
The hydrosilex was from winter. Bout 4months old I believe when pick took. No prep at all to hood. No Lsp as far as I could tell. 1st thing I applied to car and it’s what got me back into this hobby...


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The picks are from tonight? Sorry, just to clarify my question, the beads looked like they are from a sprinkle vs the TW and PA look like post heavy rain. My question was basically if the pics are from the same rain storm.
 
acuRAS82 said:
The picks are from tonight? Sorry, just to clarify my question, the beads looked like they are from a sprinkle vs the TW and PA look like post heavy rain. My question was basically if the pics are from the same rain storm.
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The hydrosilex was from winter. Bout 4months old I believe when pick took. No prep at all to hood. No Lsp as far as I could tell. 1st thing I applied to car and it’s what got me back into this hobby...


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Yes in first post I stated old shots of hydro silex..... when you asked I clarified from winter and product was 4 months old.... never stated was from same rain.


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Coatingsarecrack said:
PA says if used with primer spritz cosmic spritz will last 12-14 months.


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Do you have the newest version of Cosmic Spritz? Where they added to it with whatever makes it to bond harder with the Invicible Primer or Invicible Primer Spritz. It's very new IIRC and may have taken out the Spritz name and use Cosmic or Cosmic Coat. The Cosmic Spritz is a little strange as the high solids of SiO2 and TiO2 as compared to other coating lite products don't get the durability as they do even if it have a higher amount of the solids in it. Think it depends on how thick layer gets bonded to the paint. The Invicible Primer combo with the new version to get a longer durability is very interesting. Though even more expensive since the of 2 products to get there. But to get over a year of longevity from the coating lite products I think that you would need the primers to Gyeon CanCoat and Carpro Lite to get them there.

Awesome to see the durability from the TW SNS coming in now. It has been as I have thought that the chemical resistance and the longevity from it does not go hand in hand as with all products. More of how good of a protection it has while it's on the paint I think is more compareble with these torture testing youtubers does. TW SNS still is impresive and with a reapplication or just top up the old SNS you get some awesome protection from it every 3-5 months. Think that Cosmic Spritz also would work quite good in this case. Do you see any visual differences between them?

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Impressive photos! Both are beading well but the left side has a lot less water remaining, which is the goal after all. Thanks for this.
 
As far as wear resistance, despite all the rain I've been driving through, the areas behind my tires are still beading like new after a wash with the Seal N Shine
 
SWETM said:
Do you have the newest version of Cosmic Spritz? Where they added to it with whatever makes it to bond harder with the Invicible Primer or Invicible Primer Spritz. It's very new IIRC and may have taken out the Spritz name and use Cosmic or Cosmic Coat. The Cosmic Spritz is a little strange as the high solids of SiO2 and TiO2 as compared to other coating lite products don't get the durability as they do even if it have a higher amount of the solids in it. Think it depends on how thick layer gets bonded to the paint. The Invicible Primer combo with the new version to get a longer durability is very interesting. Though even more expensive since the of 2 products to get there. But to get over a year of longevity from the coating lite products I think that you would need the primers to Gyeon CanCoat and Carpro Lite to get them there.
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I shot a message to PA this morning, asking about the 'new' Cosmic. I see they don't even have the Cosmic V2 in the bottle listed anymore, only the 'new' Cosmic Spraycoat. I wonder if the new 'Cosmic Spraycoat' is actually reformulated in any significant way or is more of a marketing 're-definition' and now coupled with the Primer to increase longevity?

We'll see if I hear back from them...
 
Do you guys put this on bare paint? Was going to freshen up my car this weekend, Decontaminate, Clay, Polish, and do 2 coats of KGS with a layer of wax on top.
Should I skip the the 2 coats and wax, and apply the TWSS instead? How is it on protection? Would I be able to use this as a Spray Wax after a wash instead?
 
bofh said:
Impressive photos! Both are beading well but the left side has a lot less water remaining, which is the goal after all. Thanks for this.
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Yeah..... my thoughts too both bead well but the Cosmic beads roll off easier.


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KrisDetails said:
Do you guys put this on bare paint? Was going to freshen up my car this weekend, Decontaminate, Clay, Polish, and do 2 coats of KGS with a layer of wax on top.
Should I skip the the 2 coats and wax, and apply the TWSS instead? How is it on protection? Would I be able to use this as a Spray Wax after a wash instead?
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Mine was corrected 2-3 weeks before applying TWSNS. No other LSP was used


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BudgetPlan1 said:
I shot a message to PA this morning, asking about the 'new' Cosmic. I see they don't even have the Cosmic V2 in the bottle listed anymore, only the 'new' Cosmic Spraycoat. I wonder if the new 'Cosmic Spraycoat' is actually reformulated in any significant way or is more of a marketing 're-definition' and now coupled with the Primer to increase longevity?

We'll see if I hear back from them...
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Mine looks just like picture of bottle on site. Don’t know which version though


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Also cosmic has a 2 yr shelf life once opened. Hopefully it’s longer now with such an extended life


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KrisDetails said:
Do you guys put this on bare paint? Was going to freshen up my car this weekend, Decontaminate, Clay, Polish, and do 2 coats of KGS with a layer of wax on top.
Should I skip the the 2 coats and wax, and apply the TWSS instead? How is it on protection? Would I be able to use this as a Spray Wax after a wash instead?
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It will likely last longer on prepped paint. I would say nearly any product will. Will it bond to wax and ksg well? Not sure.

My understanding it has carnauba in it. Not a ton but some.

For time savings would wash then use the TW SNS

You can for sure use it after a wash as a spray wax. Heat from direct sun will make it harder to use. Humidity may add to needing an additional buff off of the carnauba hazing aspect of the product

It’s a good product. Price is very reasonable and it’s pretty easy to work with


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I used Turtle Wax Seal and Shine on my True Red MX5 for the first time and it took the shine to a new level

 
So did a reset wash today and although both needed very well, water was rolling off of the PA side a lot easier. PA destroys TW in self cleaning.

PA cosmic performance is almost coating like. It sheds water almost as well as the cquk 3.0 on rest of car.

Someone should do a more fair test against Reload or cure. From memory it is TW is performing as well as I remember Reload and hydro silex. Still and amazing value if it can keep up with those 30$ bottles of sio2 sealants.

For this willing to pay a lot more for better performance, May do a kamikaze OC/ PA test. Want to let the current sealants run for 2 months to see short term performance.


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Hard for me to decide on this. Yes, it is cheap, available locally, but I am not convinced just because a chemical won't remove it as easily as another product that it is more durable or longer lasting. PNS sheds water for months, in the real world. I guess I will have to test it myself. Real world testing vs chemical dousing.
 
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