What did you do today non-detailing related?

Klasse Act said:
With half my brain tied behind my back...just to make it fair

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I sure miss rush. Ken matthews has filled the void quite well for me. He was a guest host for him alot those last few years

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opie2 said:
Sorry buddy..i dont get it. Whats it from?

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No worries

We were talking about EV cars and the impact on the environment and the hypocrisy and such and Klasse mentioned Rush (meaning Rush Limbaugh and his famous line) but I slipped in the Red Barchetta, a song by the band Rush, to tie back to the EV environment hypocrisy angle

It was a stretch and I didn’t do it very well

Points taken away


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chilly said:
No worries

We were talking about EV cars and the impact on the environment and the hypocrisy and such and Klasse mentioned Rush (meaning Rush Limbaugh and his famous line) but I slipped in the Red Barchetta, a song by the band Rush, to tie back to the EV environment hypocrisy angle

It was a stretch and I didn’t do it very well

Points taken away


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Hahaha, oh I got ya now. I caught Klasse reference, and I know the band rush, just didn't know that's what that song is called. Points deducted from me too
 
This is the center for advanced conservative studies, no one graduates because the learning never stops

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Built a quick kayak rack for my truck for when we need to take 2-3 kayaks!

Spent maybe $125

May use this for dual purpose and use inside garage to store my kayak on top and the other underneath

2x4s and part of a 2x12

Used a rod rack I had already

Multiple D rings for tie down purposes etc

Definitely don’t know anything about kayak racks. Just started laying 2x4s in the bed and started building

It won’t live in the truck. Only for when I/we take more than 1 kayak.

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chilly said:
No, I just read enough to help me figure what it was that I saw

I have zero interest in a full EV car and don’t understand the draw up here, especially buying a brand with zero dealer support

I have spoken to several EV owners who have had cold weather issues from outdoor parking

Not sure why you would want to go that route

But to each their own


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IMO the way to go is the Hybrid.
Indeed an EV in Alaska doesn't sound like a great fit. Can't really see EVs becoming mainstream. What will they do in older cities where on street parking is the norm? In those places recharging is not practical. What would they need to do? Tear up every street to run electric to each parking spot?
Even at present taking a trip where a recharge is necessary would be a hassle. Even the quick chargers are in the neighborhood of 1/2 hour for a recharge. Maybe if they got that down to 3-5 minutes it may be reasonable.
None of these issues are issues with a Hybrid.
 
chilly said:
The incredible HP numbers that EVs are capable of is certainly intriguing

Part of my angst with EVs is the lack of understanding regarding "emissions" and "carbon footprint" and the horrendous mining and human rights conditions to produce the battery packs and all that stuff on the part of the public and the blind faith that they are helping the environment and the rest of us are ignorant uncaring Neanderthals

Like so many "causes", it gets old
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Well, at least every EV recovers braking energy, like a hybrid. I have found that people just don't understand hybrids, and plug-in hybrids are especially confusing for them. That's why I think it was smart for Toyota to sell only hybrid variants for certain models (daughter of a friend bought a...Sienna? Is that the Toyota minivan?), then there's no "discussion" about it.

Of course the problem with hybrids is you effectively have two powertrains, more complexity, more weight. And I can see, for a variety of reasons, why an EV isn't a great option up there in the Great White North.
BLM said:
IMO the way to go is the Hybrid.
Indeed an EV in Alaska doesn't sound like a great fit. Can't really see EVs becoming mainstream. What will they do in older cities where on street parking is the norm? In those places recharging is not practical. What would they need to do? Tear up every street to run electric to each parking spot?
Even at present taking a trip where a recharge is necessary would be a hassle. Even the quick chargers are in the neighborhood of 1/2 hour for a recharge. Maybe if they got that down to 3-5 minutes it may be reasonable.
None of these issues are issues with a Hybrid.
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I agree that the Great White North doesn't seem to be a good fit for EV's. As far as EV's becoming mainstream, I think it will happen, I think it's just going to be a very long term thing. Someone here or at Autopia once said that EV's won't be popular until you can charge 275 miles range in 5 minutes (like filling up your gas tank). That may happen with future battery technology, but also the charging infrastructure has to be there. In that scenario, you wouldn't need a charger in every parking spot, you'd just go to the "gas" station to charge your electric car in 5 mins.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, what do you think people were saying about cordless power tools 30 or 40 years ago?
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Well, at least every EV recovers braking energy, like a hybrid. I have found that people just don't understand hybrids, and plug-in hybrids are especially confusing for them. That's why I think it was smart for Toyota to sell only hybrid variants for certain models (daughter of a friend bought a...Sienna? Is that the Toyota minivan?), then there's no "discussion" about it.

Of course the problem with hybrids is you effectively have two powertrains, more complexity, more weight. And I can see, for a variety of reasons, why an EV isn't a great option up there in the Great White North.

I agree that the Great White North doesn't seem to be a good fit for EV's. As far as EV's becoming mainstream, I think it will happen, I think it's just going to be a very long term thing. Someone here or at Autopia once said that EV's won't be popular until you can charge 275 miles range in 5 minutes (like filling up your gas tank). That may happen with future battery technology, but also the charging infrastructure has to be there. In that scenario, you wouldn't need a charger in every parking spot, you'd just go to the "gas" station to charge your electric car in 5 mins.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, what do you think people were saying about cordless power tools 30 or 40 years ago?
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I doubt ill see it in my lifetime. Thats perfectly fine with me. EV=nEVer lol. Investing in our infastructure to accept ev's is a pipe dream for those that want it.

I have an gas leaf blower and a ego blower. If i have to put them to "work" its gonna be the gas everytime. Ego is good for short spurts, blowing the deck and sidewalk off and vehicles of snow in the winter.


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Setec Astronomy said:
Well, at least every EV recovers braking energy, like a hybrid. I have found that people just don't understand hybrids, and plug-in hybrids are especially confusing for them. That's why I think it was smart for Toyota to sell only hybrid variants for certain models (daughter of a friend bought a...Sienna? Is that the Toyota minivan?), then there's no "discussion" about it.

Of course the problem with hybrids is you effectively have two powertrains, more complexity, more weight. And I can see, for a variety of reasons, why an EV isn't a great option up there in the Great White North.

I agree that the Great White North doesn't seem to be a good fit for EV's. As far as EV's becoming mainstream, I think it will happen, I think it's just going to be a very long term thing. Someone here or at Autopia once said that EV's won't be popular until you can charge 275 miles range in 5 minutes (like filling up your gas tank). That may happen with future battery technology, but also the charging infrastructure has to be there. In that scenario, you wouldn't need a charger in every parking spot, you'd just go to the "gas" station to charge your electric car in 5 mins.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, what do you think people were saying about cordless power tools 30 or 40 years ago?
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I think the normal American mentality of pushback to "YOU WILL DO BLAH BLAH BLAH ___________" mandates will slow down EV acceptance

We simply don't take to being told we can't have a gas stove and the VP posts pictures of her cooking on hers, and we have to buy EVs for the environment while the DC power brokers drive the biggest heaviest SUV that can be bought

On and on

People kick back when pushed into hypocritical double standard corners
 
BLM said:
IMO the way to go is the Hybrid.
Indeed an EV in Alaska doesn't sound like a great fit. Can't really see EVs becoming mainstream. What will they do in older cities where on street parking is the norm? In those places recharging is not practical. What would they need to do? Tear up every street to run electric to each parking spot?
Even at present taking a trip where a recharge is necessary would be a hassle. Even the quick chargers are in the neighborhood of 1/2 hour for a recharge. Maybe if they got that down to 3-5 minutes it may be reasonable.
None of these issues are issues with a Hybrid.
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There is, or at least was a year ago, a lone individual on a quest to have enough chargers so a person could drive the 360 miles between Anchorage and Fairbanks without worrying

I just looked at the EV Charging map for Alaska and once you leave the Wasilla area for the 320 miles to Fairbanks there are 3 or 4 charging stations in that stretch and that is some beautiful but desolate countryside where you really don't want to play it unsafe

Just 2 years ago there was a single non Tesla "station" in the Denali area

It was in a little wooden enclosure in a guy's driveway and it looked like an outhouse

There was a small hand painted sign on the road pointing to the charger

Then you have the 3 Bears store near my old house in Chugiak that has EIGHT Tesla only chargers and 4 more chargers (2 of one kind and 2 of another, not sure what that is all about)

In all the times I have been to that store I have seen ONE car charging up

No clue who paid for all that or even why they decided they needed 8 "pumps"

It is all still a mystery to me
 
chilly said:
There is, or at least was a year ago, a lone individual on a quest to have enough chargers so a person could drive the 360 miles between Anchorage and Fairbanks without worrying

I just looked at the EV Charging map for Alaska and once you leave the Wasilla area for the 320 miles to Fairbanks there are 3 or 4 charging stations in that stretch and that is some beautiful but desolate countryside where you really don't want to play it unsafe

Just 2 years ago there was a single non Tesla "station" in the Denali area

It was in a little wooden enclosure in a guy's driveway and it looked like an outhouse

There was a small hand painted sign on the road pointing to the charger

Then you have the 3 Bears store near my old house in Chugiak that has EIGHT Tesla only chargers and 4 more chargers (2 of one kind and 2 of another, not sure what that is all about)

In all the times I have been to that store I have seen ONE car charging up

No clue who paid for all that or even why they decided they needed 8 "pumps"

It is all still a mystery to me
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We ALL paid

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