what's the last car care/detailing video you've just watched?

I have a love/hate relationship with his content. I appreciate how he's tried to make detailing more palatable to the average joe but it's the double speak that bothers me.

For years he ranted and raved about why soap is old technology and professionals need to use a RW to be more efficient but if that's the case why do they use Incredible Suds so much and their rinse less so little. For instance, about a week ago they had a hammered off road Range Rover. There was no way in the world they could have made a dent in that filth with a rinse less and if you're a professional, people aren't bringing you well maintained vehicles. These are vehicles that haven't seen soap in years. You're gonna need soap and you're gonna need something with some bite to it.

DIY has a 3pH system, they just don't call it that but they use it quite often. Let's take the Range Rover from last week. Instead of starting with something like Touch-Less they started with All Clean (high ph) and then went in for a contact wash with Suds (neutral). After the contact wash they liberally applied water spot remover (acidic). What they did is no different than what I do when I have a severely neglected vehicle; Touch-Less, Descale and Reset. A rose by any other name is still a rose.
I'm glad you too remembered his anti-soap stance, it was someone trying to be the smartest person in the room and it showed. It's pretty simple to me, sometimes RW is all you need while other times the 2BM is THEE only way to go, wouldn't that just be more logical to say

I also remember asking them a pre-wash to compete with Bilt-Hamber Touchless or Auto-foam, maybe benchmarking it and they told me they were benchmarking a better product...wonder what it was and why they abandoned it

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I'm glad you too remembered his anti-soap stance, it was someone trying to be the smartest person in the room and it showed. It's pretty simple to me, sometimes RW is all you need while other times the 2BM is THEE only way to go, wouldn't that just be more logical to say

I also remember asking them a pre-wash to compete with Bilt-Hamber Touchless or Auto-foam, maybe benchmarking it and they told me they were benchmarking a better product...wonder what it was and why they abandoned it

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Wouldn't surprise me if they were referring to All Clean. They use it the same way we use Touch-Less. Now I feel like getting a small bottle of All Clean just to test out and see if it can give me a similar result to Touch-Less. Yesterday when I just foamed my car to remove the salt and mud it just melted off and I could see a river of filth flow down my driveway. Personally, if something is good enough to clean the grease off of tires I don't want it on my paint which is why I don't use APCs often and stick to products tailor made for cleaning paint.
 
Wouldn't surprise me if they were referring to All Clean. They use it the same way we use Touch-Less. Now I feel like getting a small bottle of All Clean just to test out and see if it can give me a similar result to Touch-Less. Yesterday when I just foamed my car to remove the salt and mud it just melted off and I could see a river of filth flow down my driveway. Personally, if something is good enough to clean the grease off of tires I don't want it on my paint which is why I don't use APCs often and stick to products tailor made for cleaning paint.


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Yeah I couldn’t get behind DiY detail because of him. Once I tried Their rinseless and didn’t feel it wasn’t anything special that was it.


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There was a lve chat last night between Pan, Rick, and Eddie. I only watched about 30 seconds since I get tired of Pan quickly. They all had their big mikes out. Pan was talking how he started Clean.
 
There was a lve chat last night between Pan, Rick, and Eddie. I only watched about 30 seconds since I get tired of Pan quickly. They all had their big mikes out. Pan was talking how he started Clean.
This one right? They've been doing a lot of defensive shows lately. THOR/Pan caused a lot of credibility crisis.
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What a mess this has all become

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I wish he would not coninue to harp on his followers/audience as if he owns them.
After seeing the endless line of people to see him in the early spring of 2022 at Content Creators Day at The Bays/Car Supply Warehouse Bolingbrook I can tell you he does. To stand in line for a long time to meet someone you watch on YouTube is insane, these people had stars in their eyes

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Looks like they just brought in Feynlab and a new coating too.


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Looks like they just brought in Feynlab and a new coating too.


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Why would someone pair up with them

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Why would someone pair up with them

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I listened in on the other show from Sunday for a bit while mindlessly checking work emails... between the ass kissing they mentioned their business plan and how they approached Pan. They must have one hell of a (Pan approved) business plan 🫤

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Flash, as I understand it, Yvan had a successful detail shop in Montreal, successful enough that he opened a second location. He ran those for a long time, 10-15-20 years? He was a big Optimum user, and he started teaching classes on "Optimum Synergy" at OPT, and was doing the Optimum Synergy podcast, and got more involved with product development and marketing there at Optimum, particularly when Dr. G was sick.

So somewhere there in his Optimum tour, he sold his shops, sold his residence in Canada and started living in a motor home, then got (unexpectedly?) separated from OPT and started his meandering way to DIY. I might have the timing of the motor home part mixed up.

I've heard this story* before.
Everytime I've questioned Jiven Yvan about this I've gotten no response.
You would think anyone that's had this kind of success would proudly tell you all about it

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Rumor was, he tried to take over Optimum while Dr G was fighting for his life.
I don't know if this is true or not, but it had to be something pretty bad or Dr G wouldn't have shown him the door

BTW. Have I ever told you about my previous occupation before I started washing rich people's cars??
I was a professor at MIT in case you didn't know.
I started doing that right after dropping out of the 9th grade.
They were so pleased with my service they named a whole wing of the campus after me
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I've heard this story* before.
Everytime I've questioned Jiven Yvan about this I've gotten no response.
You would think anyone that's had this kind of success would proudly tell you all about it

His early videos were from his shop. I believe here he is in his shop with your favorite guy 7 years ago:

Rumor was, he tried to take over Optimum while Dr G was fighting for his life.
I don't know if this is true or not, but it had to be something pretty bad or Dr G wouldn't have shown him the door

I don't think it was that dramatic. I've seen this before in small businesses, owner gets sick, someone else step up into the power vacuum, boss gets better and says "WTH has been going on while I've been gone??" and cleans house.
 
BTW. Have I ever told you about my previous occupation before I started washing rich people's cars??
I was a professor at MIT in case you didn't know.
I started doing that right after dropping out of the 9th grade.
They were so pleased with my service they named a whole wing of the campus after me
🤥

That was an episode of Silicon Valley, wasn't it? Where BigHead gets a job as a professor at Stanford?
 
His early videos were from his shop. I believe here he is in his shop with your favorite guy 7 years ago:



I don't think it was that dramatic. I've seen this before in small businesses, owner gets sick, someone else step up into the power vacuum, boss gets better and says "WTH has been going on while I've been gone??" and cleans house.

Probably not
That rumor was going around back in the day
I met Dr G one time and was tempted to ask, but never did

P.S. I'm not about to watch that video
 
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Optimum has opened a Detail shop here
Even though they are my competition, I'm pulling for them.

 
That's really stunning, I have no idea why a manufacturer would open a detail shop at their facility. Unless that is a different location from where the manufacturing is done. The google satellite view of the address doesn't look like the building I remember.

EDIT: I guess they moved from Senator Street.
 
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