Who here DOES NOT like rinseless washes?

[c8n]

Whether you do rinseless or the traditional wash, I think the key is to inspect your wash media often. More and more I wash my car, I think its the debris that gets on the wash media that ends up scratching the paint. Due to this, I am becoming more of a fan of the foam and pressure washer rinse to knock off all of that dirt and debris before you actually touch the paint. Lessening the chance of any heavy dirt getting on the wash media is what I am looking for. After this, you can go about your wash whether it be rinseless, waterless or traditional.

However, as previously mentioned, my opinion is that rinseless is definitely more efficient and if I had to do this as a living, I would go no other way unless the car is absolutely filthy.

On my personal car, which I think is pretty well maintained, and if I had access to running water, I would do...

1. Rinse with a pressure washer
2. Foam
3. Rinse again with a pressure washer
4. Rinseless using GD's method

 

[Christopher.Brown]

I think the key is to inspect your wash media often. More and more I wash my car, I think its the debris that gets on the wash media that ends up scratching the paint.

A wise man right here

 

[Becciasm]

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[WRAPT C5Z06]

1. Rinse with a pressure washer
2. Foam
3. Rinse again with a pressure washer
4. Rinseless using GD's method

You may not need to do the first rinse; just foam then rinse before regular or rinseless washing. JMO.

 

[TroyScherer]

Whether you do rinseless or the traditional wash, I think the key is to inspect your wash media often. More and more I wash my car, I think its the debris that gets on the wash media that ends up scratching the paint. Due to this, I am becoming more of a fan of the foam and pressure washer rinse to knock off all of that dirt and debris before you actually touch the paint. Lessening the chance of any heavy dirt getting on the wash media is what I am looking for. After this, you can go about your wash whether it be rinseless, waterless or traditional.

However, as previously mentioned, my opinion is that rinseless is definitely more efficient and if I had to do this as a living, I would go no other way unless the car is absolutely filthy.

On my personal car, which I think is pretty well maintained, and if I had access to running water, I would do...

1. Rinse with a pressure washer
2. Foam
3. Rinse again with a pressure washer
4. Rinseless using GD's method

You may not need to do the first rinse; just foam then rinse before regular or rinseless washing. JMO.

If using a pressure washer do you even need to foam? On a regular wash does the foam do anything other than look cool? (Which is why I use it most of the time.) I usually can pressure wash then go straight to a rinseless if I choose. But if I drag out the pressure washer and hose and stuff, why not do a regular wash.

With that said I do 2BM & Rinseless depending on my mood, cleanliness of the vehicle, time available, and overall goal.

 

[SlowWRX]

if your blasting the car with foam and a PW whats the point in even doing the rinseless at that point..You might as well just do the regular bucket wash because already have removed the fast and easy part of rinseless

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

If using a pressure washer do you even need to foam?

I think so. :dunno:

I think foam helps lift the dirt from the paint, then blast it with a pressure washer.

 

[c8n]

You may not need to do the first rinse; just foam then rinse before regular or rinseless washing. JMO.

Probably overkill and you are probably right. But I assume it can't hurt

 

[c8n]

if your blasting the car with foam and a PW whats the point in even doing the rinseless at that point..You might as well just do the regular bucket wash because already have removed the fast and easy part of rinseless

If you do the traditional wash, there is that added step of rinsing off the soap when compared to rinseless.

 

[c8n]

If using a pressure washer do you even need to foam? On a regular wash does the foam do anything other than look cool? (Which is why I use it most of the time.) I usually can pressure wash then go straight to a rinseless if I choose. But if I drag out the pressure washer and hose and stuff, why not do a regular wash.

With that said I do 2BM & Rinseless depending on my mood, cleanliness of the vehicle, time available, and overall goal.

The foam will loosen up the dirt and the follow up power rinse will knock them off.
As other's have mention, traditional, rinseless, waterless and etc, all have their place.

What I posted, I don't claim it to be the most efficient... actually far from it.
Effective and safe, I would like to think so. On my personal car and if i had the means, it's all about what's the safest and efficiency is a concern but its only secondary.

 

[RZJZA80]

I haven't noticed anything significant from foaming the many times I've tried it. I'd like to think it was loosening dirt to just rinse off, but before and afters haven't impressed me so I think of it more as looking pretty cool and not much more.

 

[c8n]

^ Did you let the foam sit for a bit before rinsing off?

 

[FUNX650]

@OP:

I would've been more able to have honestly answered your: Thread's Title's Question...
If it were to have been worded slightly different.

IMHO...
When the inclusion/incorporation of other car-wash-methods, (into the rinseless-wash-method), is taken into consideration
and becomes an acceptable definition of: "rinseless-wash"...it flaws the concept of your aforementioned thread's title.

Note:
This...in no way, shape, or form...is to be interpreted as I do not favor "hybrid-washes".



Bob

 

[Bunky]

I AM a fan of the rinseless car wash method. Its a great time saver and quite efficient.... i feel it has its place in the arsenal just like anything else..... mainly for well maintained cars that have low-mild soil levels on them.

When a vehicle is over the 10 day mark [general guideline of course, which is weather dependent also] there are so many more contaminants [gunk/grime/bugs et etc] layerd upon itself that i, personally, dont find as effectively removed with the rinseless wash method.

You can definitely do the hybrid rinseless/bucket wash.... but i can literally wash and dry my whole car, including wheels, and a qd spray, in 40 min flat that once it gets to medium soil i just cannon + 2bw

Agree. A good rinse (some people foam) before either method really helps reduce the chance of swirls.

I do not find the rinseless process that much faster if you exclude wheels. I always clean wells more thoroughly in the 2BM process so the overall process is longer. If there a big change it is really to wheel area and just prep and clean up where rinseless is a little quicker.

From a theoretical perspective one process may be better (safer) than the other (not going guess which) but both should be very safe when done properly (good mitt, safe drying process). Poor or dirty mitts and towels, wipiningtoo hard, wiping too long in one pass, drying with dirt still on paint, etc. cause the issues that apply to all methods.

You tailor the process to the condition of the paint.

 

[yakky]

It's not that I don't like rinseless, but for me it just takes longer and in the end, I'm using a hose for the wheels and tires. If it is very hot out and no shade is available, I will do a rinseless on just the paint and glass one panel at a time.

I think the rinseless wash does take longer but drying time is reduced greatly. Overall I think its a wash As you said, on a hot day, rinseless is the way to go, my water is way too hard, if you turn your back, even in the shade, waterspots are forming before you know it.

 

[Christopher.Brown]

Agree. A good rinse (some people foam) before either method really helps reduce the chance of swirls.

I always clean wells more thoroughly in the 2BM process so the overall process is longer. If there a big change it is really to wheel area and just prep and clean up where rinseless is a little quicker.

From a theoretical perspective one process may be better (safer) than the other (not going guess which) but both should be very safe when done properly (good mitt, safe drying process). Poor or dirty mitts and towels, wipiningtoo hard, wiping too long in one pass, drying with dirt still on paint, etc. cause the issues that apply to all methods.

You tailor the process to the condition of the paint.

/agree Bunky... were on the same page there completely.

That last line encompasses my approach to ALL things detail oriented. ...Least Aggressive First, AFTER youve inspected, ans start only after youve tested

* * * i should amend my original post though.. lol

i use the 3bm.. since i have a dedicated bucket for the wheels.

HIGHLY recommend it rops:

 

[SlowWRX]

If you do the traditional wash, there is that added step of rinsing off the soap when compared to rinseless.

yes but where the rinseless really saves time is drying each panel as you clean and it doesnt get all in the cracks and seams as much to blow out after drying the car. So if your foaming and PW already then you already defeated the speediness of it.

 

[c8n]

So if your foaming and PW already then you already defeated the speediness of it.

Yes and it appears you might have missed what I wrote.

What I posted, I don't claim it to be the most efficient... actually far from it.
Effective and safe, I would like to think so. On my personal car and if i had the means, it's all about what's the safest and efficiency is a concern but its only secondary.

 

[SlowWRX]

and my point is..if your already foaming and PW the car..why would you even rinseless. is it that much harder to rinse off the soap I mean you already got the PW out and the hose out..Might as well just finish it that way. I know I would just bucket wash it if I already did all that to it.

 

[JHL88]

I always thought that using a foam gun/cannon main purpose is to add an extra layer of soap for protection between the bare clear coat and the wash mitt to prevent swirls, marring etc.. Not to "lift" dirt off the surface, im not sure what shampoo does that and even if its that much more effective than a 2k psi pressure wash rinse.