Who here DOES NOT like rinseless washes?

I agree....I got a foam lance and I think it's the product that I've gotten with the least amount of return on the investment (and I bought it for half the price they sell it for here). It looks very cool but it doesn't save time at all; all the contrary, it takes much longer.

Ugh... this was my fear after my first time using it, I was hoping that maybe it was just my technique and it will get better...maybe it's a little of both.

When I first saw people talking about pressure washer + foam lance washes, I thought it was going to be this amazing fast key to touchless washing. Then I read up on it, and realized that- ok, I'll probably still have to use a little bit of the mitt, but very light pressure, still a good amount faster. But after that first time using it, on a car that had been washed a week earlier, and saw maybe 1 or 2 days of light rain, I was not very impressed... After the first time using the pressure washer/foam lance and mitt with l ight pressure, I still had several spots of dust remaining from the rain... and I had to do a second pass with more pressure from the mitt. I thought the whole point was to save me potential swirling etc from touching the paint to much/heavily (and time). But it seems like it didn't solve either of those problems, and if anything took longer.

I guess I'll keep trying it and working on my technique, but I was hoping the improvement would be much more obvious. I'd still rather do a traditional wash though, even if it's just the usual 2-bucket.
 
Not sure what one of these foam cannon's cost but geez, I thought spending $10.00 for 1 Aqua sponge was crazy....at first but after using it, no problem!

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I agree....I got a foam lance and I think it's the product that I've gotten with the least amount of return on the investment (and I bought it for half the price they sell it for here). It looks very cool but it doesn't save time at all; all the contrary, it takes much longer.
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I don't think the point of the foam cannon is to save time or do touch less washes, on the contrary, it adds time. The point is to get the car as clean as possible before touching it, at least with me anyway.

I think it succeeds in that. By the time I put a mitt on my car its pretty clean. If your foam cannon isn't working your not doing something right. After foaming and. Pressure rinsing the car from the bottom up thoroughly, the car should be pretty clean and only require removal of traffic film.
 
Can't use water with a mobile service, that sucks! It also sucks about the rinseless wash being time consumng for you, maybe it is how bad the cars are but I've done a couple real dirty cars and only noticed the rinse water getting dirty a lot faster, LOL! As far as the static electricity goes, can't say I've ever, ever had that problem either or the dusting problem....ever!

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I wan't to do a video on this. I have my corolla and my 4runner that I practice on. I performe the Rinseless wash on both of them and they both give me the same problem. A couple of hours later, a lot of dush will get attach to the vehicles surface, including the windows. I really don't know what it is.
I did some customers vehicle this way too, and you know them, first thing they like to do is touch the paint. It was sand paper rough. Made a bad impression too. Don't get me wrong, the vehicle does look shiny, but it does not feel clean.
I am guessing it might be the wax... but IDK.
What I am planning on doing is filming on Rinseless wash with Turtle wax on on part of my corolla; and the other side with the Meguiars Ultimate wash and wax anywhere. Just have to wait until my vehicle is dirty again...
 
I wan't to do a video on this. I have my corolla and my 4runner that I practice on. I performe the Rinseless wash on both of them and they both give me the same problem. A couple of hours later, a lot of dush will get attach to the vehicles surface, including the windows. I really don't know what it is.
I did some customers vehicle this way too, and you know them, first thing they like to do is touch the paint. It was sand paper rough. Made a bad impression too. Don't get me wrong, the vehicle does look shiny, but it does not feel clean.
I am guessing it might be the wax... but IDK.
What I am planning on doing is filming on Rinseless wash with Turtle wax on on part of my corolla; and the other side with the Meguiars Ultimate wash and wax anywhere. Just have to wait until my vehicle is dirty again...


A rinseless is, IMO for cars that are in good shape....Clay, polished and relatively clean. It's not a "as seen on TV" miracle cure to a car that needs a full detail. Nothing replaces clay and polish to get paint smooth.
 
A rinseless is, IMO for cars that are in good shape....Clay, polished and relatively clean. It's not a "as seen on TV" miracle cure to a car that needs a full detail. Nothing replaces clay and polish to get paint smooth.

I don't "think" he was making a point about how the car would feel after doing a rinseless wash.....right? I do agree, to a point, about rinseless being for cars that are in good shape but I can tell you that I've done rinseless washes on terribly maintained rides and it cleaned them very well because that's what a rinseless wash does, washes, nothing more, nothing less and those with wax in them (Optimum and Duragloss) just add a little layer of protection, that's it. Really not sure about all this dusting talk, NEVER experienced this one bit.

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Just used DG rinseless wash yesterday and I'm very impressed. The paint was so slick afterwards, thanks to the AW that's in the product.

I love the smell of it too
 
Just used DG rinseless wash yesterday and I'm very impressed. The paint was so slick afterwards, thanks to the AW that's in the product.

I love the smell of it too

Glad you liked it, did you buy the gallon size? If so, make some up as a QD, you'll love it!

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Glad you liked it, did you buy the gallon size? If so, make some up as a QD, you'll love it!

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Yeah I bought the gallon size. I ordered the 16 oz. car wash concentrate and that didn't last me long before I had to buy the gallon so I figured it'd be easier to buy the gallon the first time around.

Are you using the 3 oz. of product to 16 oz. of water for the QD like it recommends on the label? So it would make 19 oz. total?

I figured less product would be needed to make a QD, like ONR.
 
I use the ONR ratio for making a gallon and IIRC its 8 oz of DG rinseless and then top off with water, but I go ahead and add 1 oz of KSG into the mix too, making a "super QD" and it works great!

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For most including yours truly I prefer the standard soapy water wash and rinse. :props:

I suspect rinseless washes were developed for those with limited access to water, environment and temperature challenges, water restrictions, portability etc...

Rinseless washes do work pretty well but fall within a fairly narrow usage window; dusty to minimal dirt and debris...

This is a great illustration of what to use and when.....:props:

washsolution2.jpg
 
This is a great illustration of what to use and when.....:props:

washsolution2.jpg
I think I've seen this illustration before...Todd Helme's?

Either way:
I'm aghast that "Dusters and Mops" are included!! :eek:



Bob
 
I use the ONR ratio for making a gallon and IIRC its 8 oz of DG rinseless and then top off with water, but I go ahead and add 1 oz of KSG into the mix too, making a "super QD" and it works great!

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What's KSG? Do you feel 8 oz to 1 gallon has plenty of lubricity for a QD?
 
For most including yours truly I prefer the standard soapy water wash and rinse. :props:

I suspect rinseless washes were developed for those with limited access to water, environment and temperature challenges, water restrictions, portability etc...

Rinseless washes do work pretty well but fall within a fairly narrow usage window; dusty to minimal dirt and debris...

This is a great illustration of what to use and when.....:props:

washsolution2.jpg

Normally I just go with a two bucket wash traditional style. But for maintenance washes and cars that get washed once a week it is perfect and saves time compared to a traditional wash.
 
What's KSG? Do you feel 8 oz to 1 gallon has plenty of lubricity for a QD?

KSG is Klasse Sealant Glaze and since I'm on my phone I can't quite to to the. AG store and click onto the Optimum link and check out what it says for the ratio to make a QD but I thought that it was 8 oz to make a gallon, the addition of KSG was posted by someone on here somewhere and I ran with it. Surely someone will come here and either correct me or let me know my memory is still good, I haven't had to make any QD out of rinseless for a while, I've had gallons for a while now, still have a gallon of DP w/ KSG infused in there right now.

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KSG is Klasse Sealant Glaze and since I'm on my phone I can't quite to to the. AG store and click onto the Optimum link and check out what it says for the ratio to make a QD but I thought that it was 8 oz to make a gallon, the addition of KSG was posted by someone on here somewhere and I ran with it. Surely someone will come here and either correct me or let me know my memory is still good, I haven't had to make any QD out of rinseless for a while, I've had gallons for a while now, still have a gallon of DP w/ KSG infused in there right now.

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I'm curious to know how you mixed in a glaze with a liquid product with the consistency of water? Although I've never tried KSG or seen it.
 
KSG is kinda milky and it does seperate a bit when mixed into the rinseless wash, so you need to shake it up a bit but remember, its 1 oz of KSG, 8 oz of your rfavorite rinseless wash and 119 oz of water total. I've been using it for quite a while now and really like it!

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KSG is kinda milky and it does seperate a bit when mixed into the rinseless wash, so you need to shake it up a bit but remember, its 1 oz of KSG, 8 oz of your rfavorite rinseless wash and 119 oz of water total. I've been using it for quite a while now and really like it!

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Sounds interesting. I don't have any so I think I'll just stick with the DG.
Speaking of duragloss, I think duragloss should be in your username instead of Klasse haha
 
Sounds interesting. I don't have any so I think I'll just stick with the DG.
Speaking of duragloss, I think duragloss should be in your username instead of Klasse haha

Well maybe the next time you place an order pick up the small bottle of KSG, then not only can you use some to make up the "super QD" to use for maintence but you can also use it for its main purpose....lay down a great sealant, wipe on and wipe off right away. If you do get around to trying KSG, please drop me a PM so I can give you the tips that were given to me by the company person I used to buy it from, makes life a lot easier, want anyone using KSG for the 1st time to have a great exprience!

As far as changing my screen name, I appreciate where your coming from with that but I've got the same screen name on 2 other car forums and have so for many years. That said, what would be a cool screen name to incorporate Duragloss into it?

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Hey there Wayne, what do you mean by the "unknown" and correct procedure?
What i mean is that i have never looked into how to do it. Im just basing my opinion off the name of it.
For Example:
Do i spray it on a dry surface and clean? (That seams like it would scratch the paint alot!)

Do i use it instead of soap in a wash bucket? (If thats the case why use it over soap?)

Wayne
 
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