Why pro detailers don't do business with AG..

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Jason, thanks for the response and as I stated in another post it's about communication.. If you need a month to put pricing together just let me know with an email or call.. If I'm in a rush to get something faster id let you know :). And know that I know your atleast aware I sent you the email I'm fine with you taking as long as you need to complete the request.. Just get back with me if you need time..that's it :)
Im currently working on it, just did not realize it was time sensitive. But I'm working on it now, you should have it in a few here.
 
Im currently working on it, just did not realize it was time sensitive. But I'm working on it now, you should have it in a few here.

If someone sends me an email AND a phone call wanting to do business I would at least have the common courtesy to respond back in a timely manner. 4 days is unacceptable IMO
 
If someone sends me an email AND a phone call wanting to do business I would at least have the common courtesy to respond back in a timely manner. 4 days is unacceptable IMO

Yeah you've really got to be careful about getting back to customers. They will flame you here, on other forums, and worst of all, on Facebook. Who was it that said "No matter who you are, the media can destroy you." ???
 
My 14 year old neighbor gets paid to wash his mothers car. Will he qualify?

Is his business registered in the state he does business? Does he have a tax ID number? Tax returns showing income? Sole Proprietorship, LLC or INC. What is the minimum $ amount he spends a year with AG? See not too hard.
 
Is his business registered in the state he does business? Does he have a tax ID number? Tax returns showing income? Sole Proprietorship, LLC or INC. What is the minimum $ amount he spends a year with AG? See not too hard.

I think these qualifications are the only way something like this would work

You have great ideas. Thanks for your insight :props:
 
Is his business registered in the state he does business? Does he have a tax ID number? Tax returns showing income? Sole Proprietorship, LLC or INC. What is the minimum $ amount he spends a year with AG? See not too hard.

Yeah I would believe a tax ID and business license would be enough to establish a pro from an enthusiast.

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Yeah you've really got to be careful about getting back to customers. They will flame you here, on other forums, and worst of all, on Facebook. Who was it that said "No matter who you are, the media can destroy you." ???

Social Media is scary stuff for sure. Even if you do the things the right way. All is takes is 1 jerk or someone with an axe to grind to damage your online rep

Was it Donald Trump that said that?

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Yeah I would believe a tax ID and business license would be enough to establish a pro from an enthusiast.

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I can get a business license for $25. I think more then that would have to be required
 
I can get a business license for $25. I think more then that would have to be required

You think people would really set up a business account and get a federal tax ID just to get a little bit of a discount?

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You think people would really set up a business account and get a federal tax ID just to get a little bit of a discount?

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I wouldn't put anything past anyone. By nature I don't trust anyone. Everyone is under suspision
 
I make a little pocket change on the side but not every day or every week or even every month. I detail for fun. I enjoy it and love the finished product. I don't get why anyone would expect a discount from a retailer. If you use as much as you say getting a wholesale account should be no problem. Asking a retailer to drop prices is stupid. I use to manage a retail clothing store here (western wear, saddles, boots, hats, high ticket items) and we would have people pull that crap I'm spending this much can you cut me a deal? So your 1000 dollar pair of handmade alligator boots are more important than the guy who just bought our cheapest pair of work boots? The same percentage markup is on both. Tell me why you feel entitled for a deal. Usually the guy with the gators we would see once, the other guy would come every month or two, buy jeans, shirts, more boots etc. I'm done. SMH
 
You know a thought on "pro business". At the root of it, a business is out to make money. If it isn't, it won't survive. Those of us who do it as a hobby can spend an extra few bucks on AGO now and then over shopping around. Someone seriously doing this as a full time job, surely, is shopping around, contacting suppliers of their favorite chemicals, and trying to keep their overhead down. The problem with a retailer like AGO providing wholesale accounts, is that they really only make fiscal sense if you buy everything from them and move a lot of product. If you are still going to be shopping around for the best price on everything (And why shouldn't you, keeps AGO on their toes and competition improves our favorite products and retailers!), then it doesn't make much sense. I was under the impression that they DID have wholesale accounts, but that there were some fairly steep minimums, and that would make sense!

I think the OP's idea to resell these products is great. Especially as most places in the US have very little access to these products outside of the the internet. Though I sure hope that 'karma' doesn't get involved, and he doesn't get his wires crossed and fail to return a dealers phone call or show up late to a retailer; and that person jump to conclusions and start bashing them on social media, calling the other clients, etc. Saying (of course) "Nobody really uses him anymore because he's slow" (with that way too typical, if I don't like them, and I can find one friend who doesn't like them, then that means nobody likes them. Anyone who has ever been part of a group ever has experienced that. 'A lot of us have been thinking...' or 'All of us think that...' when in reality, it's only one or two people who think whatever it is).

I wouldn't be happy if it took 4 days for someone to get back to me if I had an anticipation of immediate service (though this isn't the medium I, personally, would be using to address those issues). But then, that's me, I'm not OP here. Of course, if someone gave me their card months prior, and I turned around and am just now contacting them, I might not anticipate immediate responses, especially if I had worded the questions to sound like I wanted them to accomplish something for me (like a quote) that might take some time. Sounds like it's getting resolved. Also sounds like it was a simple misunderstanding, not a secret coup trying to overthrow perfections reselling operation by intentionally refusing to get back to him because they want all of the pro detailers to go elsewhere, followed by a huge pilgrimage of all professional detailers in the history of the world moving to other retailers for their detailing products. Because, if there's one thing the AGO forums are short of, it's professional detailers and experienced people with advice! Oh what AGO must've been before evil Max and all of them chased those pro's away....
 
I don't get why anyone would expect a discount from a retailer. If you use as much as you say getting a wholesale account should be no problem. Asking a retailer to drop prices is stupid.

Nooooooo it's really not stupid. Other online detail suppliers, which I will not mention here, give discounts if you spend a certain amount of money per year. Substantial discounts. That's why I don't buy everything here!
 
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Typical shoot the messenger responses. No Value Added. Meghan's response excepted.
 
I just couldn't take it anymore and had to contribute to this thread. LOL. I have been in inside and outside sales. Yes, customer service is very important to a successful business.
But there is absolutely no reason tocall someone out publically like this. It just seems to me that this is an attempt to get what you want by publically humiliating AG and its staff. Totally unnecessary! I used to work for a steel tubing manufacturer where I handled 40 accounts doing 10 million dollars in business. My best customers were also my toughest customers. (challenging, demanding, price sensitive etc.) But one thing the had for me and the company I worked for was Respect! I can tell you that they never talked to me like this.

My most recent experience, I email the manager Jason Sierra Monday, no response, I call Tuesday and leave a voicemail, no response, I call customer service Wednesday, they email Jason asking him to call me, no response. Anyone else notice a trend? I've purchased over 10k in detailing supplies just in the past week and AG hasn't received any of that money.. Why? Poor communication... From a manager no less. I'm sure this will get deleted and I'm sure by now the true followers of AG will say o I've had hundreds of great experiences, what are you talking about? Look at my number of post, does it look like I'm new to the forums? Why would I post something like this? To hurt AG? Naw that won't happen, but possibly to open their eyes a little to a lost market they are losing out on big time.. You guys are the Walmart of detailing supplies, but poor customer service loses you money. I wish you the best, and Mike P, you're still the man, and my views are not reflected at you in the least bit..
No need to bring names into this at all. Your problem and wishes could have been stated without getting personal. Number of posts and experience in business does not make anyone an expert. They are not the Walmart of detailing supplies. Look at Walmart and all the problems they have with their employees, insurance, complaints and so on. Walmart has driven companies out of business by driving their prices so far down or forced companies to ship manufacturing overseas.


I do this as a business not a weekend warrior but I will take pics for you just to make you jealous...

Immature.

Bob, the part of the forum is to discuss customer service is it not?
Discuss customer service, YES. Bash someone by using their name, NO.

And btw I had above a 1k order that I emailed Jason about, still gonna need to purchase those products on top of everything else I still haven't purchased yet.. But I guess I lost the call out on bs? I'm not a liar, just a customer that feels customer service wins your money..

On top of everything else. Is that "everything else" from AG or other suppliers products that AG does not sell? "Wins your money?" It seems to me like this is a threat. Makes me wonder if you are doing this same thing right now with other suppliers who sell the same products as AG. Beat all vendors down to their lowest price and then "cherry pick" items. I understand that people are in business to make money but so are the companies. I once had what I will call a customer, he never bought anything from me. He always called for quotes on steel tubing, I would either meet or beat his suppliers price but never got the order. As I learned over time all he was doing was using me to beat down his other suppliers and receiving kickbacks. Not really all that ethical.

I sell to dealerships..not quite 10k a month but when I buy I buy.. Btw you never sent me that sample you wanted me to test for you so long ago :(

Now your bringing someone else into this.

No I totally agree, im a one man show, doing the best I can for my family. There's just a lot of business AG is missing out on due to flaws within their business..

Attacking AG publically. No need to do this.

Flash, your one of the few people I miss from AG, I always loved your comments, hopefully the weathers been treating you better since I last heard about you..

Trying to get someone to come over to the "Dark Side"

I'm trying to speak to Jason because at sema he gave me his card and asked me to call him direct about an issue I asked him about. And patience, did you not read my first post? I emailed/called him since Monday, it was Thursday and still no response....

You sound like you are in a bind and need products right now. SEMA was Nov 5th - 8th. Monday was Jan 13th, enough said. It seems to me that between then and now a tentative order could have been put together and then adjusted as the time to order approached. "Issue" this was not an issue at the time it was a quote. It is now an "issue" because you need product. Don't take this personal but there is an old saying out there. "Don't make your problem/procrastination my emergency."

I would've contacted someone else, I know your staff has gotten larger since I first started doing business with you, but as I said about Jason asked me to contact him directly so I did. Also if you get on any other detailing forum that has a majority of pro's and ask the question who does all their purchasing from AG you'll almost get laughed off these days, that's all I'm saying.

Looking for others to join your side, to me a ploy to try to intimidate AG. I know if I have a problem with someone, I personally bring it up with that individual. If that person is not available I have asked for someone else. If that person does not know or are aware of what is going on I will then wait to talk to the person I had the initial conversation with. Patience. Todays society want an answer "NOW", while now was Monday, I understand that. But SEMA was back in early November when this discussion was initiated.

I like yourself used to be a fighter for AG staff, check my post history and see how many times I've stuck up for the staff here.. As far as proof yes I've seen it for years on other boards and fb, it's not just me, but none of the people I'm speaking about read this forum anymore so they won't be here to comment.. And as I've mentioned it's not just because he's the manager it's because when I spoke to him at sema he said no problem I can get that taken care of, so I contacted the person I spoke 2..

Again, SEMA was in early November more than two months ago. Office problems and the individual being home sick. Give someone the benefit of the doubt. For all we know Jason may still be at home sick and taking care of this remotely.

Hi John,
My apologies, I did recieve your voice mail and email. I know we have been working on a quote since Sema last year and we did get that taken care off. As for the current email my apologies I did not realize this was time sensitive. Since we have not correspondent since the middle of last month I wanted to refresh my mind to see what we where working on. I will have a quote for you on the items you sent shortly.

Best regards,
Jason

Publically apologizing, which he should not have to do. He should only have to apologize to one person. But since this "issue" has been brought out on a public forum, he is owning up to it publically.

No correspondence since last month. HHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMM

I am fairly new here and don't do detailing for a living. I have grown to enjoy this as a hobby and will continue to do so. Customer service no matter where I purchase products from is important. Be it a brick and mortar, over the phone or an internet purchase. With that being said I would never and I repeat never openly try to embarrass someone in public, over the internet or in private for that matter.
Some may say that I am doing this right now. Yes maybe, but I have also stuck up for employees in stores where other customers were being "completely unreasonable" about their demands. Seems to me this post was started before an explanation was given as to why there was a delay in response to the request being made.
Seems to me that a public apology and a phone apology would be the "Right" thing to do in this matter. Can't we all give people the benefit of the doubt why a phone call was not returned in a timely matter. Do we know what is going on in that persons life at that time. Are we too wrapped up in ourselves to not care about others.
 
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