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So it seems I like to order things then send them back after doing more research. :(

I ordered the PC and now am reading that the Flex is the one to get. I am brand new and this is going to be a learning process for me. I want it to be easy and if spending more to get quality means less frustration I am all for it.

Tell me if I should send back my PC when it comes in and order the flex? My concerns are I want to be safe and be sure not to cause damage. This is why I went with the PC in the first place because I read it stop spinning if correct tech is not used. I figured it was like a fail safe to keep me from screwing up. The Flex me seems like a Rotary device that has orbital pad movement and that scares me.

AG is going to think I am nuts but I wanted to get something ordered and in route so I can detail my new truck. I just dont want to make the wrong choice and spend money on something I wish I had not only to later have to pay more for something better.

What should I do?
 
PC is fine for learning, I had my G220 for about 2 years before stepping up to 3401.
 
Do you guys think that AG would exchange my 6.5 pads that came in my PC kit for 5.5 pads if I ask them? I plan on sending back the extra pads I paid for separately but not sure how they would calculate the cost of the pads included in the kit. Honestly I dont care that the 5.5 pads are cheaper I would just be happy with an exchange because shipping the entire thing back just for pads would cost more anyway.
 
The PC is a weak machine in my opinion. Especially in comparison to the Griots, and I assume the Flex. I've never tried the Flex, but I know it's forced rotation...which I guess to a novice makes it more risky to start with.

If you want to learn, and grow as a detailer and get into things like paint correction...I'd say get the Flex, or the Griots. The PC has it's limits. It's a reliable, well built machine...but inferior to the newer modern DAs if you ask me.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Keep it holstered, you'll be fine with the PC.
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:iagree:

Remember this phrase: Paralysis through Analysis

Stop reading and start doing......you'll feel so much better....

I prefer to put my own package together.


Just some info on pads.

Foam Pads

To simplify pad usage, I've given a generic usage of pads and products.

Compounding

Compounds or aggressive products are generally used on firmer pads, Yellow, Orange, and Green.

Polishing

The White and Gray pads are generally used with polishes.

Sealants & Waxes

Blue and Red foam pads work nicely for applying sealants and waxes.
These are a very good choice of pads for the Porter Cable style dual action polisher..
 
The DA is a good machine, you can get the microfiber pads for compound and polish and a foam pad to apply sealant. You can also get the DA carpet brush for interior carpet cleaning too.
 
The PC is a great DA polisher. If you take care of it... It will serve you for many years. It's like the energizer bunny. It will consistently produce great results once you dial in proper technique and pad combos.
 
Brian, one thing I have found unique on this site is that all of the products will do the job. There are products AG sells that I would not purchase, but solely because it is my choice (not that they are bad or low quality). It is easy to get overwhelmed by all of the great feedback you read. My recommendation to you is stay the course and continue reading and absorbing. Eventually you will settle into a comfort zone and learn what products, devices and techniques suit you. The PC will work out for you just fine.

Until you get more comfortable consider two options:

1. Contact AG before you make a purchase so they can help you with your expectations, thought process and product choices. At the very least, odds are good that you will save on return shipping fees and time.

2. Post a question on the forum on a potential purchase and ask for feedback. Many times people will post their assessment and provide recommendations as they see fit.
 
BobbyG said:
:iagree:

Remember this phrase: Paralysis through Analysis

Stop reading and start doing......you'll feel so much better....

I prefer to put my own package together.


Just some info on pads.

Foam Pads

To simplify pad usage, I've given a generic usage of pads and products.

Compounding

Compounds or aggressive products are generally used on firmer pads, Yellow, Orange, and Green.

Polishing

The White and Gray pads are generally used with polishes.

Sealants & Waxes

Blue and Red foam pads work nicely for applying sealants and waxes.
These are a very good choice of pads for the Porter Cable style dual action polisher..
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Yes I have seen your post before and it helped me make choices. I bought the pads you mentioned and intend to use them with the type of products you described.

Thank you
 
Just an FYI for other newbies who might read my post. I found this video posted by another member here and watched several of this guys vids. They are great and teach a lot while getting to see first hand what is going on. Just surf around and watch some of the methods used for washing, drying, buffing etc.

He also shows the Flex and honestly I am now happy with my PC choice for the time being. Perhaps the Flex is in my future once I get a system down but for now no way am I trying that for my first time.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7A5BCCb7Gg&feature=relmfu]How Safe is the PC-7424XP? - Part 2 - YouTube[/video]
 
I've had a PC for years. Yes, it is the safest to use as far as paint damage goes, but now I would like to get a Flex. The PC is easy to stop especially if I dont keep it perfectly flat. So when I accidentally tilt it to try to get a light scratch out, it will stop then I get frustrated & wish I had the money for a Flex. There's a learning curve to a Flex but in the end, it will be quicker. But that's me!
 
In watching some vids from the guy I linked above he is using a huge pad on the PC and is doing what looks like a Ford Ranger truck that has some very crazy body lines on the bed. He kept it spinning pretty good and only a portion of the pad was on the paint. Seems to me that the PC still will do the job but frustrates the experienced people because they are ready for something faster. He then used a flex and yes it was faster but obviously I need to gain the confidence you guys have before thinking that I need to move up. I am more the type of person that goes big to start with and really am tempted by the Flex and all the reviews on here but am scared, lol.
 
When it comes to the selection of detailing products and the various choice you face, its the same as which car is better for you. Both a lowly Chevy Geo and a exotic Lambo will get you from point "A" to point "B". So as with the choice of detailing supplies and equipment you must decide what is my goal and how much am I willing to spend to get there.There is not a DA or rotary offered by AG that won't produce a show car finish with the proper use and application. The members on here are more then willing to share their experiences and opinions with you but only you can decide the route you wish to take.My advise to you is read,read and read some more plus ask all the questions you need to form your decisions. Good luck and I think you'll be just fine.
 
Well I broke my cherry and am out working this weekend using the PC. I am starting to wonder if I should have bought the Flex. The fact the PC stops spinning in more challenging areas drives me nuts. I am managing it but I think something like the Flex that doesnt stop rotating would make this more enjoyable and easier.

It says there is 90 day Guarantee and I just got it last week. Does this mean the AG will accept it back for an exchange to a Flex?

What do you guys think and what input do you have?
 
brian45acp said:
Well I broke my cherry and am out working this weekend using the PC. I am starting to wonder if I should have bought the Flex. The fact the PC stops spinning in more challenging areas drives me nuts. I am managing it but I think something like the Flex that doesnt stop rotating would make this more enjoyable and easier.

It says there is 90 day Guarantee and I just got it last week. Does this mean the AG will accept it back for an exchange to a Flex?

What do you guys think and what input do you have?
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I own the PC also (along with a rotary and Megs DA which is a shop tool).

I understand the PC doesn't have the same power as the GG, but I don't ever have it bog down on me. On speed 6 and 5 with the right combo pads and compound and working the product correctly you can achieve just about the same results with any machine.

You say that you bought pads based on what Bobby recommended. Can I ask what got?

For my home PC I use LC Flat 5.5" pads.

I'm not sure about the exchange to a Flex, maybe you could PM Nick on here and he will get back to you.

Here are some results I got with the PC and Megs 105/205 combo. The machine works just, give it some time and learn its style. Unless of course you would have peace of mind with the Flex, your choice. Just giving my 2cents.

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I found the link from Mike about correct pressure and what not. I dont know if you have read this article yet, but its a good read. Everything is dead right in it. Need proper tools, product, pressure, pads etc etc...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...37769-da-polisher-trouble-shooting-guide.html

Once you find your grove you will like your results.
 
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