Hologram HELL!!!

[oboroballa03]

Awesome job it turned out great!

 

[Philips146]

I don't know why but I LOVE that color.

 

[Sizzle Chest]

Excellent write-up, pics and work! Those 50/50 shots are incredible! Very nice work!

 

[BrutalNoodle]

Yeah, I'm sorry! Pretty hard to look at I know, right, lets fix it! A couple of 50/50 pictures -







And finally, some pictures of the subject completed -








Thank you all for looking.

Aaryn NZ. :dblthumb2:

Outstanding! rops:

My neighbor (Audi TT, black) was curious of professional/quality detail work vs drive through tunnels & their "wash & wax specials." Going to show him the above photos.

 

[bodidly]

Wow just Wow! - Beautiful work Aaron. Make sure you watermark those photos now! - I can just imagine the 'steal and sell' ability. Been happening a lot on FB in Aus

 

[lane5515]

Great write up and beautiful work. Love the 50/50 shots! Thanks for sharing.

 

[dlc95]

That was some serious abuse to that beautiful paint!

Excellent job!

 

[Aaryn NZ]

Nice work, Aaryn!
I've been getting a lot of work like this lately, people only bring their cars to detail when they can't stand looking at it, and usually black cars.
Probably due to the economical crisis, they look for the cheapest, get the worst, and then try to fix it when the deal is done.
Sometimes it is so bad that you need a pre-cut stage, to level it off, like rotary, wool and menz 300, since cutting alone with let's say menz 400 isn't enough.
What I bluntly say to my clients is that his car's clearcoat 'got AIDS', because the level of correction needed is so profound that the remaining clearcoat will be so thin to withstand and to be able to give the protection needed.
Probably this is the reason I've been seeing so much cases of clearcoat failure nowadays in cars that are not supposed to be showing it, like 2010, 2011 cars, the thin clearcoat trend and one or two hack detailing job is enough to screw it up permanently.
Best regards, mate.

Thank you. :xyxthumbs:

Yeah, I too have seen a few too many late model vehicles driving around woth clear coat failure of late. I hadn't given it much thought that this type of work may have been a contributing factor, I was along the line of thought that maybe modern paint systems are just not up to the task these days but perhaps you're onto something.

Aaryn NZ.

Awesome recovery and love that color.


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Thanks mate. :xyxthumbs:

Crazy nice colour huh!

Aaryn NZ.

Brilliant work, Aaron! Those are very dramatic 50/50 shots as well.

Thank you. :xyxthumbs:

I'm sure the 50/50 pictures would have been even more dramatic in the sunlight too.

Aaryn NZ.

Amazing job!

Those 50/50 shots are so satisfying especially with that green it looks great!

Thanks. :xyxthumbs:

I could help but smile when I saw just how nice the green really was, very satisfying indeed but also sad that people work like this too.

Aaryn NZ.

Spruce Mica is a beautiful paint! Nice job

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Thanks. :xyxthumbs:

Spruce Mica! Nice. I hadn't seen this colour before, or at least I hadn't seen its true colours before, I really like it, such a course metallic too.

Aaryn NZ.

 

[Aaryn NZ]

Stunning. Great work.

What's the best method to send those 50/50 shots to the body shop? Unmarked envelope? Slid under front door? Print a poster and tape to front window??


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Thank you. :xyxthumbs:

Hahaha, yeah - I thought of doing something like that. I doubt they would "get it" at all. If they were okay with letting it leave their shop the way it was, I believe they're beyond help.

Aaryn NZ.

Those are beautiful 50/50 shots, amazing work. I tend to drool when I see swirls and get excited knowing that myself or any of the AGO geeks can transform them into glossy masterpieces, again great job

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Thanks. :xyxthumbs:

It certainly is satisfying when you can do it properly & get results like this, although I would rather just the holograms without all the compound in every crevice & on all the black trim (My McKee's 37 Wax Remover For Plastic Trim arrived today, doh!)
but still, I see way too many cars like this, & more & more I will more than likely see more cars without enough paint to correct the damage.

Aaryn NZ.

The people who did that ought to be ashamed, you Sir should be very proud. Show those before and after photos to future customers, if I walked into your shop and saw those, I would be assured I was dealing with a true professional! Amazing.

Thank You. :xyxthumbs:

Kind words indeed. I posted these pictures on my shops Facebook page & it got a bit of interest. Kinda the whole "each one, teach one" deal. The more people that see it, the more people learn how its done properly.

Aaryn NZ.

 

[Aaryn NZ]

Looks great! Love the 50/50 shots!

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Thanks. :xyxthumbs:

Beautiful work Aaryn! You really showed those defects who is the boss!

Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed the fb posts as well as reading about it over here.

Thank you Mike. :xyxthumbs:

I'm still a newbie on Facebook, July I think I started the page & So far so good as far as "working" for the shop.

Aaryn NZ.

Night and Day! You got that paint lookin dripping wet. Great save Buddy.

Thank you Don. :xyxthumbs:

I credit you for my love of Essence my friend.

Aaryn NZ.

Wow! Scary that someone would think those before shots looked good. That green really made those swirls pop and it really shows how well you saved it. Nice work!

Thanks. :xyxthumbs:

Very scary . . . I struggle to understand why such a person would be in the automotive appearance industry & not have a smidgen of an eye for detail.

Aaryn NZ.

Awesome turnaround man!

Thank you Justin. :xyxthumbs:

Aaryn NZ.

Wow, just a FANTASTIC job! :dblthumb2:

Thank you. :xyxthumbs:

Aaryn NZ.

Great work Aaryn. Hard to believe that there are people out there that charge for that poor quality work.

Thanks Mike. :xyxthumbs:

I hear ya there Mike, they probably sleep just fine at night too, not like this ol' beat up detailer - I go home hurting sure but I know what I done that day was done with pride.

Aaryn NZ.

 

[Aaryn NZ]

Awesome job it turned out great!

Thanks. :xyxthumbs:

Aaryn NZ.

I don't know why but I LOVE that color.

Thanks.:xyxthumbs:

I was rather taken with this colour too.

Aaryn NZ.

Excellent write-up, pics and work! Those 50/50 shots are incredible! Very nice work!

Thank you. :xyxthumbs:

Pleased you enjoyed, appreciate the kind words.

Aaryn NZ.

Outstanding! rops:

My neighbor (Audi TT, black) was curious of professional/quality detail work vs drive through tunnels & their "wash & wax specials." Going to show him the above photos.

Thanks. :xyxthumbs:

Nice, hope the pictures help.

Aaryn NZ.

Wow just Wow! - Beautiful work Aaron. Make sure you watermark those photos now! - I can just imagine the 'steal and sell' ability. Been happening a lot on FB in Aus

Thanks mate. :xyxthumbs:

Aaryn NZ.

Great write up and beautiful work. Love the 50/50 shots! Thanks for sharing.

Thank you. :xyxthumbs:

My pleasure, pleased you enjoyed.

Aaryn NZ.

That was some serious abuse to that beautiful paint!

Excellent job!

Thank you. :xyxthumbs:

Indeed. Just plain ugly abuse.

Aaryn NZ.

 

[Aaryn NZ]

You know years and years ago, probably almost 25 years ago, there was a local body shop that offered car detailing on Highway 20 in-between Corvallis, Oregon and my home town of Albany, Oregon. I had a customer take there car to this shop to get detailed. The shop only used a rotary buffer and the car ended up looking like the car you saved in this thread.

The owner of the car came to me with their swirled out car and told me the shop has offered to "try" again if he will bring them back his car. Here's what I said to him, I asked him a question...

What's changed?

By this I mean, what has changed at the shop that this second time they'll get it right.

1. Have they purchased a new tool to use instead of the rotary buffer?
2. Have they hired a different guy that knows what he's doing?

The answer is "no".

I told him they would simply repeat the process only after buffing out the car they would be sure to slather on lots of wax or some type of glaze so that when you pick up the car it will look good, you'll be happy and go away.

Later, after you wash the car a few times the hologram scratches will show up.


And this is the problem with shops 25 years ago and by looking at the hologram swirls which are more accurately described as hologram scratches, it's still a problem today.


Two things...

1. If a shop or a person can't do it right the first time, unless something changes they can't do it right the second time. The crime is each time they do it wrong they remove precious amounts of paint from a vehicle that already has THIN paint to start with and the only way to fix it is to remove even more paint. This is a lose/lose situation for car owners.


2. The rotary buffer is a GREAT tool. It gets a bad reputation because it's used incorrectly. At this point in time the rotary buffer is the right tool to use for removing sanding marks for a wet sanding project and for heavy correction by someone that truly knows what the heck they are doing. But at this point in time with all the orbital polisher tool options, all the pad options and most important, all the options for great abrasive technology, there's no reason to use a rotary buffer to do the finishing step on any car.


And for all you guys that consider yourself the "God of the Rotary Buffer", give it a break. Rotary buffers impart a scratch pattern called holograms. Sure it might be possible to leave a hologram free finish ONLY because of the great abrasive technology now available that has not always been available but this has more to do with the ultra fine polishes and jeweling pads on the market today and little to do with the person behind the buffer.

Besides, instead of hoping you're able to leave a hologram free finish behind using only a rotary buffer why not simply make the detailing process bubba-proof and finish out with ANY orbital polisher and be done with it.

Mike, thank you for this reply! rops:

Ironically I needed this today. The "car guy" I turned away came back to the shop today for some further advice about his paintwork & what you have written here explained it perfectly & not only now does he have my veiws, he read your veiw also. Sadly the dealership that done the damage are telling him that there's no way polishing the paint would remove that much paint. So I showed him your article on "paint is thin!". Probably should send a copy to the dealership. Now the dealership say they will paint the horizontal panels only, because thats where you can see the holograms they inflicted the worst. Problem is, the paint is too thin everywhere.

Aaryn NZ. :dblthumb2:

 

[Aaryn NZ]

Nice work sorting that out Aaryn!

And a proper write-up to boot!


The owner of this vehicle is lucky to have someone that actually knows what they are doing to undo the damage and restore the paint the right way the second time.


Thank you for taking the time to take the before, during and after pictures and then sharing them on our forum.


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Thank you Mike. :xyxthumbs:

My pleasure, I have some BIG things happening in our little shop this year, & after the last two years, things are settling down & getting back to a normal-ish way of life. I hope to be more avtive again once things finish ironing themselves out. :xyxthumbs:

It's important to know when to turn a client away. That's called wisdom. It usually comes from making mistakes and learning at the school of hard knocks.

It takes just as long to do it wrong as it takes to do it right.

What separates the people that do it wrong from the people that do it right is knowledge.

This is why one of my new sayings goes like this,


"Professional quality detailing starts with the brain... not the buffer"



Again... great work my friend!

Awesome Mike, thank you. :xyxthumbs:

Ha, I studied at that school - been there, made the mistakes & learnt from each & every one of them. I figured, for the sake of making a buck, it could end up costing me three or more, & my reputation. This way, I have covered myself & also earnt the trust of a new client who possibly in the future may spend that buck with me anyhow. :xyxthumbs:

To anyone detailing, if you are on the fence about a paint thickness guage - these are a must!

Thanks for finding the time to comment Mike, much appreciated.

Aaryn NZ. :dblthumb2:

 

[Bill1234]

This is what I completely hate. So many question our craft because of people like this. Great save though, green really is a deeper looking color on the ravs I guess now

 

[damaged442]

What a difference! Great job!

 

[RaskyR1]

Great work! Those 50/50 shots say it all!:dblthumb2:

 

[Dan Tran]

IMPRESSIVE!

I showed a workmate these pictures and his mind was blown.

It taught him CLEARLY what holograms are.

He always thought that holograms weren't a big deal. Now he is more knowledgeable than most people from a solid 50/50 shot.

GREAT WORK!


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[Bandit00C5]

What a difference. I recently looked at a C6 Corvette that looks like it suffered this same fate. I hope to be fixing it soon. Pictures like this really show what a craft properly detailing a car is. Great work!!!

 

[ShineDoc]

The green is gorgeous. Your work supurb!
Thanks for posting

 

[Aaryn NZ]

This is what I completely hate. So many question our craft because of people like this. Great save though, green really is a deeper looking color on the ravs I guess now

Thanks. :xyxthumbs:

Yep, bad apples huh.

Aaryn NZ.

What a difference! Great job!

Thank you. :xyxthumbs:

I love it when the test spot reveals the goods.

Aaryn NZ.

Great work! Those 50/50 shots say it all!:dblthumb2:

Thank you. :xyxthumbs:

A picture paints a thousand words I think they say.

Aaryn NZ.

IMPRESSIVE!

I showed a workmate these pictures and his mind was blown.

It taught him CLEARLY what holograms are.

He always thought that holograms weren't a big deal. Now he is more knowledgeable than most people from a solid 50/50 shot.

GREAT WORK!


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Thanks. :xyxthumbs:

Each one, teach one huh, pleased it helped out.

Aaryn NZ.

What a difference. I recently looked at a C6 Corvette that looks like it suffered this same fate. I hope to be fixing it soon. Pictures like this really show what a craft properly detailing a car is. Great work!!!

Thanks. :xyxthumbs:

Sadly, this type of work is all too common around the world.

Aaryn NZ.

The green is gorgeous. Your work supurb!
Thanks for posting

Thank you. :xyxthumbs:

I was impressed with the colour also, rather nice.

Aaryn NZ.