How to Remove Hair line scratches on Wood Trim?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Hair line scratches on Wood Trim?

Update and I am excited!!! This new SMAT Scratch X is amazing. The old one did hardly nothing and this new formula is quite different.

But, WOW! This hand working takes a lot of time and patience. But considering my hand RPM versus a machine, it all makes sense. For the Pros to charge accordingly this would be a costly process with small area results.

I noticed it took many applications and talk about working small areas. I noticed two inches by two is all the larger I could go to feel effective and smaller than that was better. I got my best results with fast movements and a lot of pressure with a sponge applicator.

WestEnd,

After reading the above description of your experience in rubbing out small trim panels like you have inside your car...

Does what I wrote previously in this thread now make more sense sense? See the portion in bold blue

Technique is everything when working by hand...

When it comes to working on small panels like these trim components, the problem is usually having enough room to move your hand back and forth fast in an effort to abrade the surface to remove enough material to level the surface.

If the trim component is out in the open it's not a problem, but as the trim component is surrounded by things like displays, switches, buttons, levers, etc, as these thing get in the way you can't get in there and put some passion behind the pad.

Did what I describe match your experience?

 

[Mike Phillips]

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[WestEnd]

Re: Hair line scratches on Wood Trim?

Does what I wrote previously in this thread now make more sense sense? See the portion in bold blue

Did what I describe match your experience?

Hey Mike,

Yes, it does make perfect sense and was what I experienced. The tighter areas around the shifter, window buttons, etc. were much harder to correct. I couldn't get the hand movement quick enough with a one finger pressure for what I noticed did the best job. I ended up using more pressure and many more passes to get it where I was satisfied with the result. Eh Hum, much more passion :xyxthumbs: behind it. My foam applicator folded and edged down onto it was the best result.

The process is definitely hands on, if you will, haha. I can't imagine getting a machine in most of the areas, as mentioned in another post, maybe a dremel. But, I couldn't get a drill or DA anywhere near where it would have been more effective than just my hand without causing damage to the leather shifter, buttons, etc.

The space on the vertical panel in front of the shifter was probably the toughest, or maybe we should say required the most creativity, simply due to hand position and narrow working area. I really should have a pic of that position, it probably looked hilarious. I had one knee on the floorboard, facing rearward, reaching across myself... eh! You get the idea. LOL

Variations in hand speed and pressure is definitely the key to getting this done.

 

[dougaross]

Would a dremel tool with a flex shaft be useful for this purpose?

 

[Wills.WindowsAndWheels]

Would a dremel tool with a flex shaft be useful for this purpose?

ahhh a flex shaft, now thats a good idea...i think they make those for drills as well...i dont know about if they make a pad small enough for a drill thou....good idea either way :xyxthumbs:

 

[Mike Phillips]

Would a dremel tool with a flex shaft be useful for this purpose?

I've seen threads with people doing this kind of small detail work before on small "things", if someone were to do this on the inside of their car then just to be careful it would be a good idea to cover some areas like vents, or radios, and gages, etc with some towels, or microfiber towels or even some plastic drop cloths like the 2 mil plastic drop cloths you can get at hardware stores, even though the buffing pads on a dremel are small they can still throw a little splatter.

Easier to tape-off and cover up versus clean up after the fact.

 

[WestEnd]

Update and second try on a different type of wood.

This looks more like the previous pictures that they say are wood look a likes, it could be. It had a definite different feel than the burled walnut console and was much easier to work.

I tried a Dremel with the flexible shaft and attached small microfiber pads to the end for the tight areas. It just wasn't very effective. The speed looked good but without being able to apply pressure I just couldn't get the results.

So back to the hand I went with great results.

Applied as before with a foam applicator. Megs Scratch X 2.0 left haze, then M205 removed that and M21 cleared it up.

Before

After Scratch X 2.0

After M205 and M21 Sun wasn't in window for exact comparisons but it was improved and clear.

 

[Wills.WindowsAndWheels]

Update and second try on a different type of wood.

This looks more like the previous pictures that they say are wood look a likes, it could be. It had a definite different feel than the burled walnut console and was much easier to work.

I tried a Dremel with the flexible shaft and attached small microfiber pads to the end for the tight areas. It just wasn't very effective. The speed looked good but without being able to apply pressure I just couldn't get the results.

So back to the hand I went with great results.

Applied as before with a foam applicator. Megs Scratch X 2.0 left haze, then M205 removed that and M21 cleared it up.

Before

After Scratch X 2.0

After M205 and M21 Sun wasn't in window for exact comparisons but it was improved and clear.

Wow that turned out awesome, nice job man. So when are you gonna come over and do all the wood in our Chevy Express Sherod conversion van...its only like 18 feet long and filled with wood from front to back...you could be done by 2014 if you didnt sleep :dblthumb2:...

 

[WestEnd]

Packing my bag, be right there. LOL Actually maybe this winter when I need an AZ getaway.

My Dads new F250 has wood all over it (swirled) he wants it done after seeing my car. I am even dodging that one.

Thanks, the trim is fun to work on.

 

[dougaross]

Looks very nice. I haven't tried this on my wood yet, but I am incline to take this process one step beyond M205 by using Menzerna 085RD to remove the very light haze (if any remains)

 

[mcpp66]

Update and second try on a different type of wood.

This looks more like the previous pictures that they say are wood look a likes, it could be. It had a definite different feel than the burled walnut console and was much easier to work.

I tried a Dremel with the flexible shaft and attached small microfiber pads to the end for the tight areas. It just wasn't very effective. The speed looked good but without being able to apply pressure I just couldn't get the results.

So back to the hand I went with great results.

Applied as before with a foam applicator. Megs Scratch X 2.0 left haze, then M205 removed that and M21 cleared it up.

Before

After Scratch X 2.0

After M205 and M21 Sun wasn't in window for exact comparisons but it was improved and clear.

What happened to the pictures?

 

[mcpp66]

Bump

 

[WestEnd]

Hey, That is so strange, sorry. I had trouble with another thread doing pics the way I used to. Seems only Mike and I see them now, makes no sense.

I still see the pics but I don't when I sign out.

I will get with a mod tomorrow and see if we can have pics put back in where they belong.

 

[mcpp66]

Hey, That is so strange, sorry. I had trouble with another thread doing pics the way I used to. Seems only Mike and I see them now, makes no sense.

I still see the pics but I don't when I sign out.

I will get with a mod tomorrow and see if we can have pics put back in where they belong.

I appreciate that! I bought a car that has some scratches in the simulated wood. They didn't really bother me much, but yesterday was the first time I've driven the car in the sunlight and they really bother me now. I want to see how your work came out. I'm a little nervous about applying polishes to this trim.

 

[WestEnd]

I was hesitant at first myself. Try a test spot and it will give you the confidence to go for it.

Obviously my pics were visible initially since there are comments. Seems a forum update or something happened to take them out of the thread.

Here are the pics in my album. I don't know why they disappeared from the thread. They are obviously not in the text but for now, at least something to see.

Burled Walnut after Scratch X 2.0:

After M205 50/50

reflection

Second type of wood trim, simulated wood.

Before

After Scratch X 2.0

After M205 and M21

 

[timaishu]

I tried doing this with my altimas wood trim but I had no luck.

Id tape off a small section and have tried many times using UC or swirlx on applicator pads and even a hand cutting pad. It never made a dent. And it was clear coated..

 

[dougaross]

Do you have enough room good get a DA in there?. Or even the edge of the pad? I had grest success with UC, 205, 085rd

 

[Mike Phillips]

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[mhphoto]

Gonna try some ScratchX on my dad's '95 E320's console today.

 

[Mike Phillips]

Gonna try some ScratchX on my dad's '95 E320's console today.

• Make sure you wipe the surface clean.
• Make sure your applicator pad is clean
• Do some testing to an inconspicuous area before testing on an area your Dad can easily see

Working by hand actually requires skill and talent, working by machine means pretty much turning the machine on and guiding it over the paint while it does the work.


I can't count how many people have been through my Meguiar's classes that "tried" to remove scratches by hand and failed all due to their technique.