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Problem working with Meguiar's M105 Ultra Compound?
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WRAPT C5Z06
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I can't wait to receive my optimum hyper compound spray. If it has the same working time(long) as optimum hyper polish spray, I have a feeling it will replace M105 for me. M105 is a real pain to work with.
I can't wait to receive my optimum hyper compound spray. If it has the same working time(long) as optimum hyper polish spray, I have a feeling it will replace M105 for me. M105 is a real pain to work with.
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Never said to work it longer, others want it to work longer because they can not grasp how to use the polish as it was designed.
Never said to work it longer, others want it to work longer because they can not grasp how to use the polish as it was designed.
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Dana
How long should a section pass take with 105 on a 18x18 section? With wool... and with a pad... I can get 2 passes before dusting or 1 if i give some pressure and slow down to work on a RIDS and I think i confuse the dusting with drying... and I also figured out i was not using enough product... worked it to long... and let the pad cake up a few times on me...
I tried redoing it all spurring after each section and think I did a better job... Definitely think more procedure was a key to fixing defects within the short working time.
I ran outta 105 (damn 8 oz bottle that was more then 1/2 empty) before I got to practice with the white CCS and the 105 to see if i could remove halograms I put in with the wool.
Mulitple 205 + White CCS passes would not touch my marring though from the wool. Out of frustratin i grabbed the PCXP and Syn1 (from pb's beta test) and an org pad and with tons of pressure and multiple passes... This stuff did not do a single thing but put on a dust show! So the truck sits with ugly halograms on the side of the bed until my new pads backign plate and 32oz bottles of 105 and 205 come in... I will also test out Opt spray compound to see if it cleans any of it up.
I think for us newbies the short working time doesnt help when we make and extra pass outta unconfident decision making.
Anyway ill keep ya post and thanks for the hours of help Dana. Waiting for you to start making videos
Chris
Dana
How long should a section pass take with 105 on a 18x18 section? With wool... and with a pad... I can get 2 passes before dusting or 1 if i give some pressure and slow down to work on a RIDS and I think i confuse the dusting with drying... and I also figured out i was not using enough product... worked it to long... and let the pad cake up a few times on me...
I tried redoing it all spurring after each section and think I did a better job... Definitely think more procedure was a key to fixing defects within the short working time.
I ran outta 105 (damn 8 oz bottle that was more then 1/2 empty) before I got to practice with the white CCS and the 105 to see if i could remove halograms I put in with the wool.
Mulitple 205 + White CCS passes would not touch my marring though from the wool. Out of frustratin i grabbed the PCXP and Syn1 (from pb's beta test) and an org pad and with tons of pressure and multiple passes... This stuff did not do a single thing but put on a dust show! So the truck sits with ugly halograms on the side of the bed until my new pads backign plate and 32oz bottles of 105 and 205 come in... I will also test out Opt spray compound to see if it cleans any of it up.
I think for us newbies the short working time doesnt help when we make and extra pass outta unconfident decision making.
Anyway ill keep ya post and thanks for the hours of help Dana. Waiting for you to start making videos
Chris
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I just tried M105 today for the first time. It dusted quite a bit but I just sprayed the pad with some water and gave it another couple passes. I was working on a Mercedes with a Ceramic clear coat. It worked so fast it's not even funny. After 2 passes almost everything was gone. After 4 section passes only one deep scratch was left. And I'm using 6.5" orange CCS pads on a G110v2. The dusting is a bit of a pain but the cut is awesome. And it finishes great.
I just tried M105 today for the first time. It dusted quite a bit but I just sprayed the pad with some water and gave it another couple passes. I was working on a Mercedes with a Ceramic clear coat. It worked so fast it's not even funny. After 2 passes almost everything was gone. After 4 section passes only one deep scratch was left. And I'm using 6.5" orange CCS pads on a G110v2. The dusting is a bit of a pain but the cut is awesome. And it finishes great.
Flash Gordon
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Anyone having this problem should be sure your surface is cool and out of direct sunlight :buffing:
Anyone having this problem should be sure your surface is cool and out of direct sunlight :buffing:
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I thought holograms are shallow swirls and should be easily removed with something like 205. I guess not.....
I'm assuming you're using a rotary with the wool pad?Dana
How long should a section pass take with 105 on a 18x18 section? With wool... and with a pad... I can get 2 passes before dusting or 1 if i give some pressure and slow down to work on a RIDS and I think i confuse the dusting with drying... and I also figured out i was not using enough product... worked it to long... and let the pad cake up a few times on me...
I tried redoing it all spurring after each section and think I did a better job... Definitely think more procedure was a key to fixing defects within the short working time.
I ran outta 105 (damn 8 oz bottle that was more then 1/2 empty) before I got to practice with the white CCS and the 105 to see if i could remove halograms I put in with the wool.
Mulitple 205 + White CCS passes would not touch my marring though from the wool. Out of frustratin i grabbed the PCXP and Syn1 (from pb's beta test) and an org pad and with tons of pressure and multiple passes... This stuff did not do a single thing but put on a dust show! So the truck sits with ugly halograms on the side of the bed until my new pads backign plate and 32oz bottles of 105 and 205 come in... I will also test out Opt spray compound to see if it cleans any of it up.
I think for us newbies the short working time doesnt help when we make and extra pass outta unconfident decision making.
Anyway ill keep ya post and thanks for the hours of help Dana. Waiting for you to start making videos
Chris
I thought holograms are shallow swirls and should be easily removed with something like 205. I guess not.....
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Not true, depending on the defects and the type of paint they can be a pain and then add in the new to the tool deal and you will have some problems.
Chris we just need to meet up and I will remove/show you how to get rid of your misery. The Z06 is still here if you want to help-lol.
Not true, depending on the defects and the type of paint they can be a pain and then add in the new to the tool deal and you will have some problems.
Chris we just need to meet up and I will remove/show you how to get rid of your misery. The Z06 is still here if you want to help-lol.
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rops:
Thanks for the tip. I've been itching to learn how to use a rotary, but I want to get really good with a DA first. Like your student Tad for example.
rops:
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Well if it isn't ole sleepy head. What are you doing awake already. Its only 14:15oke:
Well if it isn't ole sleepy head. What are you doing awake already. Its only 14:15
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It is early-lol. I pulled a two day all nighters on one of the 2 Z06's I have to do and I just fell out about 7 pm last night and just woke up about 2 hours ago.
Well if it isn't ole sleepy head. What are you doing awake already. Its only 14:15
It is early-lol. I pulled a two day all nighters on one of the 2 Z06's I have to do and I just fell out about 7 pm last night and just woke up about 2 hours ago.
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Well Mark all my students move on and become excellent detailers with all the CORRECT knowledge they have gained.
Thanks for the tip. I've been itching to learn how to use a rotary, but I want to get really good with a DA first. Like your student Tad for example.
Well Mark all my students move on and become excellent detailers with all the CORRECT knowledge they have gained.
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Just found this thread and am wondering, where can I get some more info on how M105 was designed to work? I did the tailgate of the truck as a test and I was amazed at how quickly it dried/dusted. Eventually I was adding distilled water which after reading this entire thread to this point, seems to be counter-productive. Even though it dried quickly, after finishing with 205 (which is a dream to work with), most of the swirls were erradicated. I'm not giving up on M105 because I've only had like 5 passes with it but I was wondering if my problem was with my choice of priming product (started out with Pinnacle pad conditioner and then moved to distilled water). Any links regarding M105 to educate myself? Everything in my arsenal is Menz except for the M105/M205 that I recently tried.
Just found this thread and am wondering, where can I get some more info on how M105 was designed to work? I did the tailgate of the truck as a test and I was amazed at how quickly it dried/dusted. Eventually I was adding distilled water which after reading this entire thread to this point, seems to be counter-productive. Even though it dried quickly, after finishing with 205 (which is a dream to work with), most of the swirls were erradicated. I'm not giving up on M105 because I've only had like 5 passes with it but I was wondering if my problem was with my choice of priming product (started out with Pinnacle pad conditioner and then moved to distilled water). Any links regarding M105 to educate myself? Everything in my arsenal is Menz except for the M105/M205 that I recently tried.
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Ph16 are you using a da or a rotary?
Ph16 are you using a da or a rotary?
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2'x2' is just too large for a DA. Especially when using m105. Bring it down to about 14"x14". Check if it stills dries too fast.
And what they said is right about it cutting fast, you don't need more passes to achieve the correction you want unlike other products.
2'x2' is just too large for a DA. Especially when using m105. Bring it down to about 14"x14". Check if it stills dries too fast.
And what they said is right about it cutting fast, you don't need more passes to achieve the correction you want unlike other products.