Spray Sealants - 3-6 months

[chilly]

Is it possible some of their products don't impress in isolation, but work very well together.

I think this is a very insightful statement and can probably truthfully be said about other companies “systems” when we use a product out of context, so to speak

I do think there is a synergy in a lot of the brands and collections within those brands


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[Big DaveBig Dave is verified member.]

I tried the HS Ceramic Wet Wax in Hawaii and when it worked it was very nice but it also got streaky at times on the little blue car and I never figured out why

It worked well on the Tacoma


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Funny thing, the other day I was removing some finger prints left on the blue Qashqai, this was a day or two after applying Blue Velvet wax, and I was using Ech2o as a QD, with a very thick and soft MF, and it got all streaky on me. So I changed product, went with Boss Gloss on standard MF and the streaking was no longer a problem. Now I don't know if the issue was Ech2o on top of Blue Velvet, or was it the plush MF, but it's gone, so that's good.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

I tried the HS Ceramic Wet Wax in Hawaii and when it worked it was very nice but it also got streaky at times on the little blue car and I never figured out why

Did you drive that blue car from Hawaii to Alaska? Oh wait...

Tell us how you move from Alaska to Hawaii and back when you can't load up a moving van and drive along with it to your new home. Does everything go into a shipboard container? Or just the home furnishings and the cars go separately?

For a while the people across the street from me rented out their house and for a year there was a family there from overseas and they did move in and out with a shipboard container truck (as opposed to a moving van).

 

[chilly]

Did you drive that blue car from Hawaii to Alaska? Oh wait...

Tell us how you move from Alaska to Hawaii and back when you can't load up a moving van and drive along with it to your new home. Does everything go into a shipboard container? Or just the home furnishings and the cars go separately?

For a while the people across the street from me rented out their house and for a year there was a family there from overseas and they did move in and out with a shipboard container truck (as opposed to a moving van).

The blue car originated here in Alaska, then it got shipped to Hawaii when the boss decided we were going to live there full time, and got shipped back to Tacoma when we sold the Hawaii home and moved back where we belong

We did a month long road trip from Tacoma through the PNW and Canada to see friends along the way

I got prices on getting a moving company and it was astronomical

We looked at options including buying or renting a 40 sea van container

In the end we sold the house with the furniture, packed our clothes and as much small stuff as we could in 11 pieces of luggage, filled almost 20 medium sized moving boxes and mailed them, and sold or donated the rest

We left some stuff in storage here in Alaska when we sold the house because there was the thought of maybe getting a condo here or some such


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[DFB]

I think this is a very insightful statement and can probably truthfully be said about other companies “systems” when we use a product out of context, so to speak

I do think there is a synergy in a lot of the brands and collections within those brands

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The most notable for me is when using Carpro EliXir. Using it as a drying aid, I've found it to be streaky. Using it in the same way on Carpro Cquartz Professional, its supremely easy to work with, no streaking, no excessive towel work.

 

[DFB]

I've used a few of TW's products over the years and most recently Their Hybrids Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating. For an inexpensive spray sealant it was really durable, but from an appearance standpoint it was mid-pack, and for a ceramic spray product it's beading/sheeting was rather sub-par.
I'm sure their products have improved quite a bit over time. I could see that in the durability of the Hybrids Solutions product I tried. However, I think they are still behind Meguiars consumer products in some cases or even the more affordable products from companies like Griots. Blanketing everyting more expensive as not being worth it is a bit misleading. If you know the right products from the right brands, spending a little more money (often not that much more) will get you a much better product depending on what you want.

Going off the positive comments on here, I went out and bought a bottle of Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Hyper Foam Wheel Cleaner & Tire Prep and Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Graphene Acrylic Tire Shine Spray Coating.



Ridiculously long and complicated product names aside, which are clearly to make the average consumer think these products are fancier than they really are, I hated both. The Hybrid Solutions Hyper Foam Wheel Cleaner & Tire Prep certainly worked well, but the foaming trigger was wasteful and the stench so putrid that I was glad to finish the bottle and not replace it. I could still smell it hours later, even worse than an iron remover. The Hybrid Solutions Graphene Acrylic Tire Shine Spray Coating dried to a splotchy, uneven finish. Meh.

The argument that these products are "good value for money" does not apply to me. At full retail, the Turtle Wax Alphabet Soup products are not any cheaper than a quality product from the likes of Carpro, ADS or Gyeon. Why would I buy an inferior product that I don't like using for the same price or more than a product that is nicer to work with and delivers a superior result.

 

[Big DaveBig Dave is verified member.]

I thought that Hyper Foam wasn't good value when I first tried it, the size of the tyres I was using it on and foaming trigger meant I was using more than half a bottle when did a proper cleaning. I had to go over each tyre twice, because mud happens. Then I watched a video by, I think it was Don M, and he recommended only 3 or 4 sprays per tyre, them scrub it in all over with a stiff brush, let it sit for a minute or two, and rinse it off. I found this works for me, and the smell isn't as strong when you use less, also, I don't use it on wheels, I really don't like what it does to my powder coated steelies. As with all our personal experiences, your usage may vary, and you use what you like.

I've never tried their tire shine, and probably never will, I'm not that big on shiny tyres, and I tend to avoid any tyre products that "shine" in the name.

 

[Vegas1]

I purchased the TW tire cleaner earlier this year for $12 for 2 bottles. I figured at that price it’s a no brainer. It did a good job overall but nothing great. I probably wouldn’t purchase it again unless I could get it for $6 dollars a bottle again.


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[Setec Astronomy]

The blue car originated here in Alaska, then it got shipped to Hawaii when the boss decided we were going to live there full time, and got shipped back to Tacoma when we sold the Hawaii home and moved back where we belong

In the end we sold the house with the furniture, packed our clothes and as much small stuff as we could in 11 pieces of luggage, filled almost 20 medium sized moving boxes and mailed them, and sold or donated the rest

Ok...so when you "mail" something from Hawaii, it goes by airplane to Alaska?

And when you "ship" a car, how and what kind of ship does that go on? Is it like a ferry ship that they drive a bunch of cars on and go from Hawaii to Tacoma? That seems like too small a ship for that distance, and I presume there aren't enough cars being sent that way to use one of those giant drive-on ships that they use for importing cars. That's what I was trying to understand. Did it take a long time to get there?

 

[BLM]

Chilly,
Just curious. What area of Alaska do you live. Wife and I were there 5 years ago for a couple weeks in June. We were fortunate to stay at a friend's house near Anchorage. Hit many spots near Anchorage, went to Seward, took the train from Anchorage to Denali, rode quads along the Knik river, took a float plane to friends cabin on Red Shirt lake. It was an awesome experience and Alaska is one of the most breath taking places I have ever been.

 

[Desertnate]

Funny thing, the other day I was removing some finger prints left on the blue Qashqai, this was a day or two after applying Blue Velvet wax, and I was using Ech2o as a QD, with a very thick and soft MF, and it got all streaky on me. So I changed product, went with Boss Gloss on standard MF and the streaking was no longer a problem. Now I don't know if the issue was Ech2o on top of Blue Velvet, or was it the plush MF, but it's gone, so that's good.

My vote is the fact you used Ech2O on top of a carnauba wax. I've used Ech2O on 4~5 ceramic coatings from at least three different brands and never had an issue with it. I'm not sure it's a product I'd use on a sealant or a wax. Nothing scientific behind the opinion, just a hunch.

 

[BLM]

In regards to the quality differences in detailing products. I stated before not all Turtle Wax products are great. But some are very good. I also stated there are some exceptions with the boutique brands. If Griots or Meguirs products are your preference and there are some minor differences in cost and quality then I could see using them.

However I have serious doubts that the new "Clean" car shampoo at 4 times the cost of Slick and Slide will get my vehicle any cleaner than the Turtle Wax nor will I suffer any ill effects from using the Turtle Wax shampoo. These differences are not limited to car shampoo. The detailing market is flooded with rinseless wash brands. In recent months there have been at least two new comers to the market of which I have tried neither. Again and in my opinion I doubt the differences between most rinseless washes is significant.

 

[Desertnate]

The most notable for me is when using Carpro EliXir. Using it as a drying aid, I've found it to be streaky. Using it in the same way on Carpro Cquartz Professional, its supremely easy to work with, no streaking, no excessive towel work.

From my experience Elixr was very streaky on CarPro's CQUK. I found it to be very finicky in the ammount applied and the temperature. In temps below 60F it got REALLY streaky and smeary, to the point I quit using it in the cooler months.

 

[chilly]

The only TW product I currently have is their HS Hyper Foam Wheel Tire Cleaner, and other than the horrendously bad sprayers they use I think it is a good product, especially since CarQuest parts store frequently has a BOGO or BOGHO, and I can pick up 2 bottles for the cost of a couple of lattes

Going off the positive comments on here, I went out and bought a bottle of Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Hyper Foam Wheel Cleaner & Tire Prep and Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Graphene Acrylic Tire Shine Spray Coating.



Ridiculously long and complicated product names aside, which are clearly to make the average consumer think these products are fancier than they really are, I hated both. The Hybrid Solutions Hyper Foam Wheel Cleaner & Tire Prep certainly worked well, but the foaming trigger was wasteful and the stench so putrid that I was glad to finish the bottle and not replace it. I could still smell it hours later, even worse than an iron remover. The Hybrid Solutions Graphene Acrylic Tire Shine Spray Coating dried to a splotchy, uneven finish. Meh.

The argument that these products are "good value for money" does not apply to me. At full retail, the Turtle Wax Alphabet Soup products are not any cheaper than a quality product from the likes of Carpro, ADS or Gyeon. Why would I buy an inferior product that I don't like using for the same price or more than a product that is nicer to work with and delivers a superior result.

Yeah, I warned you about the sprayers

But like @Vegas1 said if you can get it for $5.50-$6.00 a bottle over the counter, which I have, even in Alaska, it becomes a viable product

Since I can't get the other brands you mentioned without ordering them in and having them shipped, it becomes even more of a good buy for me in my situation

Is it the best tire cleaner out there? Not at all, no argument there, but it does the job

I don't find the smell that offensive either

Different strokes and all that

Peace

 

[chilly]

I thought that Hyper Foam wasn't good value when I first tried it, the size of the tyres I was using it on and foaming trigger meant I was using more than half a bottle when did a proper cleaning. I had to go over each tyre twice, because mud happens. Then I watched a video by, I think it was Don M, and he recommended only 3 or 4 sprays per tyre, them scrub it in all over with a stiff brush, let it sit for a minute or two, and rinse it off. I found this works for me, and the smell isn't as strong when you use less, also, I don't use it on wheels, I really don't like what it does to my powder coated steelies. As with all our personal experiences, your usage may vary, and you use what you like.

I've never tried their tire shine, and probably never will, I'm not that big on shiny tyres, and I tend to avoid any tyre products that "shine" in the name.

I have gone to spraying it in my wheel brush and applying it that way and letting it dwell and it works, better than Brake Buster anyway and cheaper

 

[chilly]

Ok...so when you "mail" something from Hawaii, it goes by airplane to Alaska?

And when you "ship" a car, how and what kind of ship does that go on? Is it like a ferry ship that they drive a bunch of cars on and go from Hawaii to Tacoma? That seems like too small a ship for that distance, and I presume there aren't enough cars being sent that way to use one of those giant drive-on ships that they use for importing cars. That's what I was trying to understand. Did it take a long time to get there?

Mail to/from both Hawaii and Alaska either goes on an airplane (First Class, Priority, Express, other "premium" services) and gets there in a matter of days, or it goes in conex/sea van containers on a cargo ship/barge and depending on how full the container was when you mailed stuff it can take a couple of weeks, or several weeks, to reach you

All the boxes we mailed from Hawaii took about 2 weeks to get to us

No, vehicles don't go on drive on ferries, and as to the number of vehicles being shipped, it might surprise you, since there are 2 large military bases in Anchorage, and numerous military bases in Hawaii, that are constantly getting people in and out

Cars go on special drive on racks that then go into very large sea van containers that are sealed to the elements and then the containers go on cargo ships/barges, not dedicated drive on ships like importers use

I had to ship the car from the island of Molokai to Honolulu on a smaller open deck common cargo carrier so it arrived in Honolulu coated in sea salt spray and dirt

You have to wash the car before taking it to the big overseas shipper so they can check for damage, etc, and finding a touchless car wash in Honolulu was an impossible task. I even contacted @Rsurfer to see if they could do it but that wasn't an option. The car wash that ensued was a nightmare and a whole nother story

It even has to go through agricultural inspection to leave Hawaii to make sure there are no plants, seeds, etc in, on, or under the car (you have to do this with your luggage as well when leaving Hawaii)

It cost around $500 to get the car from Molokai to Honolulu, and then if I remember correctly, it was about $2,400 to get it to Tacoma, instead of about $4,500 to get it back to Alaska, but as I said, we planned a road trip from Tacoma back home so that worked out in the end

 

[chilly]

Chilly,
Just curious. What area of Alaska do you live. Wife and I were there 5 years ago for a couple weeks in June. We were fortunate to stay at a friend's house near Anchorage. Hit many spots near Anchorage, went to Seward, took the train from Anchorage to Denali, rode quads along the Knik river, took a float plane to friends cabin on Red Shirt lake. It was an awesome experience and Alaska is one of the most breath taking places I have ever been.

We live in Palmer, about 45 miles north of Anchorage

It sounds like you hit a lot of the best things to do on an Alaska trip, and yeah, it is a gorgeous place to live

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Thanks Chilly. I should have thought about the bases in both places. I thought Rsurfer was in California?

 

[chilly]

Thanks Chilly. I should have thought about the bases in both places. I thought Rsurfer was in California?

I haven't personally spoken to him (email) since we left Hawaii so I suppose he could be there, but he lived in the Honolulu area during the time I was in Hawaii

If he sees this and wants to chime in I guess he can

 

[DFB]

My vote is the fact you used Ech2O on top of a carnauba wax. I've used Ech2O on 4~5 ceramic coatings from at least three different brands and never had an issue with it. I'm not sure it's a product I'd use on a sealant or a wax. Nothing scientific behind the opinion, just a hunch.

ECH20 has carnauba wax in the formula, so it should be fine for use on waxes.