Turtle Wax Hybrid Spray Coating - Are the reviews misleading?

Here's the thing with these TW products, whether its TWSS or HSCS, at their price you could literally apply once a month and get what 8+ applications and be out less than $20.00 at the end of the day, maintain with their designated wash for a slight boost during maintenance washes, this would be the cool test to see but you'd have to trust the person only using 2 products the entire year

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Mike Phillips said:
Again, whoever used the word compound to describe the removal process was probably speaking in generalities, not specifics.


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I think I know why they used that word, they have some green bottle products called "Polishing Compound" and "Rubbing Compound", their lowest tier polish and compound.
 
Agent6er said:
I think I know why they used that word, they have some green bottle products called "Polishing Compound" and "Rubbing Compound", their lowest tier polish and compound.
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So did they mean to use these aggressive compounds to remove their spray coating?

I just can't believe that a polish won't remove the coating.
 
Don't they say that the TW Ceramic AIO cleaner wax will remove it? That is by no means a compound. I thought it worked like something between fine and a fine/medium polish
 
Rsurfer said:
So did they mean to use these aggressive compounds to remove their spray coating?

I just can't believe that a polish won't remove the coating.
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I saw them on a shelf at a store and the name "polishing compound" seemed very old school, got me curious if it was a polish or a compound. I don't think it(the polishing compound) is aggressive(haven't used it, but watched some reviews online), and I'm not defending them, I don't care for the words they are choosing either.

I have ordered some of this ceramic spray from autogeek to try out(great deal right now, free towel and good discount), and I guess it's selling well because it's backordered.

I Think it was an Apex Detail video that reviewed HCW and CMX and he tried a polish or something and it survived. So, Maybe TW is right?
 
Agent6er said:
I saw them on a shelf at a store and the name "polishing compound" seemed very old school, got me curious if it was a polish or a compound.

I don't think it(the polishing compound) is aggressive(haven't used it, but watched some reviews online), and I'm not defending them:

I just wonder if they have the same PR or marketing person (that doesn't know much about detailing)responsible for these things. Maybe they have a great chemist/development team and a marketing team that doesn't understand detailing, and the correct (or modern)terms?
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I have used their "Clean Finish Polishing Compound" (it's a fairly recent offering) and found that is is pretty mild. I really like it because unlike many polishes it doesn't leave anything behind to mess with your LSP.
 
Klasse Act said:
Use on the wheels, this is what I'm doing right now and after 2 weeks and cleanings with Brake Buster and once with DUB wheel cleaner the water still beads. I mean what can it hurt

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I would but I'm in love with(I can't believe I'm saying this) an armor all product and I cant let it go

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Could you layer

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Klasse Act said:
Here's the thing with these TW products, whether its TWSS or HSCS, at their price you could literally apply once a month and get what 8+ applications and be out less than $20.00 at the end of the day, maintain with their designated wash for a slight boost during maintenance washes, this would be the cool test to see but you'd have to trust the person only using 2 products the entire year

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See that's my knee-jerk reaction; regardless of the marketing I struggle to imagine the big-box manufacturers releasing a product in a regular old spray bottle only expecting consumers to really apply it once a year. They want to move volume, and not just when the product is first released.

If we land up with real "coating-lite" performance out of this stuff and you can reapply after 4-6 months like any old spray sealant I'm not going to be upset about it.
 
What I plan on doing is using the Polish and Wax, then after 24 hours applying the HS Ceramic. Then for maintenance using the Wet Wax every 2nd or 3rd wash as a booster.
 
DetailZeus said:
See that's my knee-jerk reaction; regardless of the marketing I struggle to imagine the big-box manufacturers releasing a product in a regular old spray bottle only expecting consumers to really apply it once a year. They want to move volume, and not just when the product is first released.

If we land up with real "coating-lite" performance out of this stuff and you can reapply after 4-6 months like any old spray sealant I'm not going to be upset about it.
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If your analogy of the manufacture wanting to move volume by making a product that you need to use often, I disagree.

Cost is the biggest factor, but if they can make a great and lasting product within the average consumers budget then they have a winner. Moving millions or tens of millions (world wide) at 15 bucks, you do the math.

I would say that since Turtle Wax came out with their Seal and Shine and now a Hybrid Ceramic Spray Coating their sales are going through the roof. I no longer look at Turtle Wax as a rocks in a can type of company, instead a company that makes great products for the car detailing industry.

I don't know what their p & l statement looks like, but they couldn't be in business this long without great marketing and now great products.
 
Agent6er said:
I think I know why they used that word, they have some green bottle products called "Polishing Compound" and "Rubbing Compound", their lowest tier polish and compound.
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I contacted Turtle Wax consumer affairs and they said that if you wanted to remove the ceramic hybrid coating, they would recommend their Ice Speed Compound. Two applications if it’s fairly fresh, and one application if it’s been 6 months to 1 year. This Ice compound that they’re talking about is more like a polish in my opinion (removes light swirls etc) and can be used by hand or by machine. So I believe it should not be too hard to remove the coating if that was what you wanted to do.

Turtle wax also said it’s a personal preference if you wanted to remove it before applying another coat. As long as you get all contaminants off the surface, you’re good to go.
 
My guess is that TW is telling their reps to describe how to remove a real coating (like CQuartz) to stick with the marketing idea that this SiO2 Spray truly is a “Coating”. My other guess is that it will take nowhere near two applications of swirl remover to remove it unless one were to slap it on and wipe off immediately without working it in.

Just my opinions though, I don’t have any longevity info on the product but it sure looks, smells and feels like a typical maintenance spray.
 
If its based of SNS no way your getting 6 months. Stuff beads well but thats about it. New marketing.... throw it on you tube and blammo! Next great stuff. Im sure its nice but Griots 3-1 is blowing SNS out of the water in a side by side for me.

Sure this is better than SNS bit ain’t priced much better than 3-1 and sure im gonna get closer to the 6 months from griots rhan Turtle Wax.


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I figured I will chime in now, and update in July. I am in Colorado and in December my stepson came to pick up a Kia soul that we purchased for him. In November I completely detailed it using Blackfire one step, With the intention of just having that as the LSP. Then I just decided to order some hybrid solutions to try it out. I went ahead and removed whatever protection was left from the OneStep, and applied two coats. He then drove the car back to Chicago to endure a proper Midwest winter. He is 25 and will not bring it through a tunnel wash that touches it so I assume there will be a few washes where he runs it through the touchless but I will get my hands on the car in July when he drives out for a week. I am very curious to see how this product holds up in the real world with little to no maintenance done on it until I get it
 
Billy Baldone said:
I figured I will chime in now, and update in July. I am in Colorado and in December my stepson came to pick up a Kia soul that we purchased for him. In November I completely detailed it using Blackfire one step, With the intention of just having that as the LSP. Then I just decided to order some hybrid solutions to try it out. I went ahead and removed whatever protection was left from the OneStep, and applied two coats. He then drove the car back to Chicago to endure a proper Midwest winter. He is 25 and will not bring it through a tunnel wash that touches it so I assume there will be a few washes where he runs it through the touchless but I will get my hands on the car in July when he drives out for a week. I am very curious to see how this product holds up in the real world with little to no maintenance done on it until I get it
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Good test vehicle, keep us posted.
 
Funny how many people that haven't tried it have such a strong feeling about it. I am at 3 months with TW HS AIO and then 2 layers of the spray seal and there is no noticeable degradation so far. It is still slick feeling and the beads look the same when the car is clean. No maintenance products. I have only washed it twice so far with Megs HW. It looks clean most of the time so it has decent self cleaning effect.
 
Coatingsarecrack said:
If its based of SNS no way your getting 6 months. Stuff beads well but thats about it. New marketing.... throw it on you tube and blammo! Next great stuff. Im sure its nice but Griots 3-1 is blowing SNS out of the water in a side by side for me.

Sure this is better than SNS bit ain’t priced much better than 3-1 and sure im gonna get closer to the 6 months from griots rhan Turtle Wax.
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How long did the SNS bead well for you? How about Griots 3-1? We’re they both used as toppers or standalone?
 
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