Looks great, Tec582 really adds depth even on paints that aren't the best. It seems to have made that pearl come alive. Sooo slick too, that's the biggest issue, fingerprints from touching it too much, lol.Washed my wife’s kid hauler with Meg’s Hyperwash (I still can’t figure out the smell but I like it), and then hit it with Tec 582. Reflection shot shows weird sun and clouds, it’s not a haze or smearing from the product, figured I’d mention that.
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What did you do today, in regards to detailing?
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Finished this up just before the sun went down. For a 10 year old truck that is actually used for truck things this behemoth is actually holding up quite well.
The owner is one of the few customers that said he was going to bring his other vehicle to get detailed and actually lived up to his word so I polished his headlights. I also had a box of Cerakote Trim Restore I had reserved for a customer that cancelled and decided to restore his trim. For something that you can pick up off the shelf at Wal-Mart it worked surprisingly well.
The owner is one of the few customers that said he was going to bring his other vehicle to get detailed and actually lived up to his word so I polished his headlights. I also had a box of Cerakote Trim Restore I had reserved for a customer that cancelled and decided to restore his trim. For something that you can pick up off the shelf at Wal-Mart it worked surprisingly well.
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I have to say I find the current array of Meguiar's products just overwhelming and that is exacerbated by how many of them have such similar names. Just yesterday I went to the Meguiar's website looking for their own product description of a few things I'd seen discussed here and got lost - once everything is "hyper" and/or "ceramic" they cease to be differentiating features.
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There are just too many legacy products that are still in production, even when new products have launched in the same category. And that's assuming there is a difference in the 15 different detail sprays, or have they just rebranded one formulation in different bottles and different names? Why not just make ONE and focus on making it the BEST ONE? Same with soaps, wheel cleaners, polishing compounds, leather products. It's funny, we all slag off Chemical Guys for doing the same thing, at one point I counted something like 13 or 14 different tire dressings, all labeled as "tire shine". And yet, somehow Megs doesn't get the same treatment.
And their various websites (the product site and the direct sales site) are appallingly bad to navigate with one of the worst search functions I've come across. In that I mean looking for a product that I KNOW they make, but cannot locate via the search bar, I have to manually scroll through multiple pages to find it. Just not good enough in 2025. I suspect the website is there just for appearances, the target buyer is not generally shopping for Meguiars online, rather on the shelves of a local auto store.
All of which is a shame, the poor marketing and product planning is turning people away. In the 2000's before the brand was offloaded to some multi-brand corporation, Meguiars was a leader. As technology in the industry started to evolve, Meguiars sat on their hands and kept doing what they always had. If priced correctly, I guess there is a market for that. But when those legacy products are at price parity to the premium brands, why wouldn't you buy the premium product?
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Didn’t plan on washing this morning as I prefer evening when the sun starts to set but after dropping my son off at band camp my car was assaulted by one of those roadside neighborhood sprinklers. I wasn’t going to let that water sit on my car in this 100+ degree weather and end up with water spots so a fun filled morning wash with Descale was in order.
Wanted to wash my cars this weekend, but heat index was well over 100, mixed with nasty afternoon evening storms.
I did however do my first test on getting rid of the high spots on my GTI. As ive been around the car a few times, ive figured out where the coating highspots are the worst. For those unaware, I coated my GTI in extreme humidity, some sections have sweat beads that just wouldnt buff off.
anyway, I chose the passenger mirror. It is probably the most obvious spot. cleaned with some rinseless, did some quick synthetic clay and did a VERY light Very quick polish with KCx micro cut. Thankfully this did remove the highspots. As expected it also removed all of the coating
. I was hoping that a light enough correction to leave the coating, but no luck. I expected it wouldn't work, but I had some hope. At least I know that I wont need to remove much clear at all to get it ready for the next coating.
I did however do my first test on getting rid of the high spots on my GTI. As ive been around the car a few times, ive figured out where the coating highspots are the worst. For those unaware, I coated my GTI in extreme humidity, some sections have sweat beads that just wouldnt buff off.
anyway, I chose the passenger mirror. It is probably the most obvious spot. cleaned with some rinseless, did some quick synthetic clay and did a VERY light Very quick polish with KCx micro cut. Thankfully this did remove the highspots. As expected it also removed all of the coating
. I was hoping that a light enough correction to leave the coating, but no luck. I expected it wouldn't work, but I had some hope. At least I know that I wont need to remove much clear at all to get it ready for the next coating.Thinkin a bird was having a field day on the hood at work. Makes sense, but no poop anywhere though. Its dirt or some sort of substance on all the marks. Debris came off but i can see light scratches in the clear at most of the marks. Dang it. Oh well, will paint correct it at some point this year.
chilly
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That's a head scratcher
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Guys get the exact attention from me...ZERO
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I have lost track of the number of start up detailing supply companies that have a small solid core lineup and I think "Aha, here it is..."Meg's get this treatment from me, I've moved waaaaay past them and 25 years ago I was all about Meg's...now, nope (sans Meg's Hyper Wash...awesome)
So in closing, from me atleast, Meg's and ChemicalGuys get the exact attention from me...ZERO
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Then I turn my head to look at a squirrel and by the time I turn back they have 3-4 varieties of every single product in their lineup
I guess bottom line, if people didn't want more and new and improved and endless choices the companies wouldn't do it
I mean look at P&S
Several different "collections" with what I consider to be redundant products in each collection
371 products...
I think Duragloss has held truest to a simple but comprehensive line
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Meg's get this treatment from me, I've moved waaaaay past them and 25 years ago I was all about Meg's...now, nope (sans Meg's Hyper Wash...awesome
So in closing, from me atleast, Meg's and Chemical
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Have you tried the ceramic detailer? Everything you’ve said about Feynlab detailer I’ve said about this.
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Funny you used P&S as an example, my last order from CCP came in a P&S carton that had "Black Diamond Collection" on it. I spent about an hour down a rabbit hole before giving up, I've never bought any P&S products and I was curious, well I'm not anymore.
When I first got into this madness I used a few Duragloss products, Fast Clean & Shine, Nu-Glass polish, and their rinseless wash come to mind.
chilly
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I got everything out and staged but then I lost my cloud cover so I’m in a holding pattern waiting for the clouds to come back or the sun to go behind the trees to the west
In the meantime I peeled off those little fluorescent stickers that they put on new car rims and then used Stoners Tarminator to get off the excess adhesive
Hyper Wash with an Adam’s topper
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In the meantime I peeled off those little fluorescent stickers that they put on new car rims and then used Stoners Tarminator to get off the excess adhesive
Hyper Wash with an Adam’s topper
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Setec Astronomy
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Wait--that's not a Lava Lamp??
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New Chilly cocktail
Karl_in_Chicago
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Yeah, I lost a bet and had to chug a pitcher like that once, too . . .Hyper Wash with an Adam’s topper
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DFB
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Meg's get this treatment from me, I've moved waaaaay past them and 25 years ago I was all about Meg's...now, nope (sans Meg's Hyper Wash...awesome
So in closing, from me atleast, Meg's and Chemical
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I started out detailing in the early 2000's using Mothers and Meguiar's products. I went through gallons of Gold Class and NXT soap, loved applying Mothers Pure Carnauba Wax to my car. Back then, that's all I had access to. The thing is, those products are still being sold unchanged from when I was using them 20 years ago. Not only has the industry moved on, but the way consumers shop is drastically different, opening the gate for new brands and places to buy these specialty brands and products. And yet, Meguiars is stuck in 2005, be that the products or how they are sold.................they have been left behind. Meguiar's are hardly alone in this, Mothers, Turtle Wax, Armor All are stuck in a time warp as well.
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It's funny, listening to the TRC podcast a few weeks ago, talking about dressings, P&S brand ambassador and trainer Sydni Brae Gwinn mentioned that P&S have too many products in that segment. She is correct in saying that, but I found that quite amusing coming from her as she is such a great voice for the brand and has influenced many new products.
Exploring that further, they have a variety of different product lines, or "collections" -
Renny Doyle Double Black Collection - This is basically their premium or pro-sumer line of products, and the ones that get promoted the most. Think Brake Buster, Swift, Xpress, Bead Maker, Paint Gloss, Dream Maker, Shine All ect.
Off-Road Collection - As the name suggests, these are products that offer additional cleaning strength to deal with mud and dirt. I doubt they are ground-up new products, rather altered versions of existing products. Grouping them in a single line helps them stand out better rather than buried within the wider P&S lineup.
Pro-Series Collection - A lot of the in this line are legacy products, rebranded to group them together. Quite a number of these are only sold to professional high-volume detail shops, There are some true relics of the past here, from Wash-&-Wax soaps, old fashioned glazes and rocks-in-a-bottle compounds, spray waxes and bulk quantity dressings. There are however a few newer products such as Release, the fragrance line, and undressed tire cleaner.
ChemTrol - This is another old lineup primarily aimed at the professional high-volume user. While they can be used on their own, these products have been designed for the P&S dilution system called ChemTrol. These units will automatically dilute gallon bottles of product to a set ratio, improving time efficiency. There is nothing fancy here, think glass cleaner, heavy duty degreasers, dressings, wheel cleaner. Meguiar's also have something similar, which is called DMS6000 Metering System.
Babe's Boat Care - I've heard the Phillips brothers speak of this in the past, its basically an old fashioned line of trade products. They have been given a refresh in recent years with new labels. Fairly sure not even we get these products in Australia.
I have cherry picked products from each of the above collections, excluding the boat system. For the most part, the best products are found within the Pro Series and Double Black lines.
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