3 coating comparison

No new pics or water tests. Car has about 1" of snow and 1/4" of ice over that. Maybe next weekend. Below is a pic of what I did on the hood. Added a couple of products (as previously mentioned) and it gives me another place to compare the look and beading/sheeting. I'm thinking this is also a good opportunity to see what it takes to remove a coating - will try that in the spring.

Clockwise from lower right: Cquartz UK, Sonüs Ion, Duragloss, Polish Angel, McKee's, and TBD (temporarily has DG Trackclaw - will replace with coating).
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RippyD said:
No new pics or water tests. Car has about 1" of snow and 1/4" of ice over that.
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Important question: Is the ice on top of the vehicle in the shape of a bead? Lol.


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One big bead, like an ice cube.
 
It's going to be a few more days.

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Ha!!!!!!!! you need to put that foam gun down :laughing:

Dave
 
Finally got melted here. It was about 40 degrees when I took these pics this morning. I washed the hood and roof with D114 at 128:1 and rinsed. Didn't like results so I washed again and a much lower dilution and rinsed again just to be sure. Same results.

Summary: there's no difference in the McKee's and Duragloss coatings from previously. The Polish Angel coating is still sheeting faster than the other two, but much slower than it was previously. I don't know what to make of this. It certainly could be an application issue. Could be that combined with those coatings not liking to go on in lower temps. When I applied them it took a long time for them to flash relative to warmer temps. And maybe they sheet differently this close to 32 degrees? I really don't know what's going on.

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After a few seconds.
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After a while.
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Tape lines
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More interesting is the results on the roof. I now wish I'd left one section untreated as a control. I may remove the TrackClaw to see how an untreated section compares. Although the tape lines may be an indicator of this (Note that the tape lines got cleaned twice with Eraser (front to back) and 15% alcohol solution (side to side).

Map of what I applied to the roof.
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Water on
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Immediately after. You can see the water is moving off the Cquartz UK, TrackClaw, and Sonus Ion immediately.
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A little more slowly for the Polish Angel and DG Nanoglass, but still sheeting quickly. McKee's is sheeting very slowly here, similarly to the hood.
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Because the DG Nanoglass is sheeting well on the roof but not the hood, the most likely answer is poor application of the DG and McKee's. Could be combo of my application and temps. I will say that based on this Cquartz seems to be more favorable for low temp application. Not the best pics of the roof. Will try to get higher so it's easier to see the sections toward the rear of the car better.
 
Update: tested the roof again from a better perspective. Need to clarify that McKee's, Duragloss, and Polish Angel coatings on the roof are sheeting much better than the ones on the hood. The McKee's and DG are sheeting water off in 15-20 seconds. PA is a little faster. So probably not what I would expect, but it's not laying there like on the hood. The other coatings (one sealant) are repelling water immediately.
 
Forgot to post a pic. Different perspective. You can see water has sheeted everywhere else and is still running off the DG Nanoglass and McKee's sections. Polish Angel was a little slower than the others and faster than these two. I have no idea what this means in terms of protection, if anything.

Expecting sun for several days next week. Will try to get a sense of how the compare visually. Maybe hard to tell with such small sections.

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If you look closely you can see the tape lines. Not so easy to see here to due to pic size. (Still frustrated by pic attachments - can't get them to what I want.) I added some white lines to make the tape lines more obvious. Could follow it based on water beading for the last section toward the rear. Lines are approximate, of course.

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Minor update: I used three coatings on the wife's Boxster. I wanted to see if there was a visual difference on larger sections. Polish Angel on the front fender, Sonüs on the drivers door, CQuartz UK on the back fender.

Took in out this morning and later today about dusk to check it in the sun. I can't see any difference in transparency or color. All are glossy. They all repel water well. The Sonüs Ion is noticeably slicker than the other two. When I was applying Cquartz UK to the back panel I tried to tape the edge of the door coated with Ion - tape won't stick to it.

All three look great to me. I'd be happy with any of these on her car. I'll see how well the last over the next few months. And in cold, wet weather, these are all easy to apply with no issues.

Pic of the door and rear panel - Sonüs Ion on the right, Cquartz UK on the left. (And yes, the door handle is dirty.)

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No update on the comparison, but a comment on CQuartz UK: I saw some light scratches on the drivers's door (wife's car) and decided to get rid of them. CarPro Essence polish followed by Cquartz UK. About 2 hours later I noticed some hazing in a 2" x 3" area - clearly a high spot I missed. Put some reload on a MF and gently wiped - gone. One of the risks of not taping off the area and not doing a full panel - tape is cheap and easy to use.

Can't speak to any durability or longevity yet. But for cold weather application Cquartz UK is fantastic. Could not be much easier. And I will retract my previous comment about Polish Angel being easier but not worth the extra money just for the ease of application: for people new to coatings, it seems like a good way to go. Have to wait and see how it lasts relative to the others in a wet, muddy, salty, cold environment.
 
No update on the comparison, but a comment on CQuartz UK: I saw some light scratches on the drivers's door (wife's car). CarPro Essence polish followed by Cquartz UK on 18” x 6” area. About 2 hours later I noticed some hazing in one spot – clearly a high spot didn’t wipe down. Put some reload on a MF and gently wiped - gone. Really nice to be able to get rid of high spots so easily. And this was complete user error due to not taping off the area I worked. Not a big deal and very easy to correct. Cquartz UK is fantastic for cold weather application.

However, I will retract my previous comment about Polish Angel not being worth the extra money just for the ease of application. For people new to coatings, it removes all the risk and issues. Have to wait and see how it lasts relative to the others in a wet, muddy, salty, cold environment.

A far easier path is to just use what Custmsprty and others here recommend for non-pros. (Several people have recommended PA for this very reason, in addition to how it looks.)
 
It stopped raining long enough for me to wash hood and the roof too see how they are doing. The short story is: not doing well. They're all beading when it rains (sorry, no pic) but the sheeting from most of them is gone. Not sure how strongly this indicates coating/sealant health, but I assume it does.

I washed the hood and the roof with McKee's N-914 at the rinseless concentraion. Hood had a litle visible dirt, roof had none. After washing it I rinsed and washed it again.

Hose to the hood.
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No sheeting anywhere.
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Hose to the roof.
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Cquartz UK sheeting well, Duragloss Trackclaw (not a coating) sheeting ok. Nothing else is sheeting at all. Not the best pic, but Cquartz is the upper left section, Trackclaw is the lower left.
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So what does this mean? Here's my guess: all of these went on in low temps. They got extended cure times but I suspect 2-3x the recommended cure time at 50 degrees or below is not enough. And given that most coatings say they'll continue curing for a week or longer, these just never got a chance to fully cure. They went out into the elements after 48 to 72 hours and were pretty much constantly wet or frozen. I think most coatings need a little more help, and just aren't going to fully cure at 40 degrees and covered in water.

Cquartz UK is advertised as being cold weather friendly, and this certainly seems to confirm that. It's not sheeting as quickly as it did a month ago, but close. I to wonder if any coating is going to hold up well given the weather where I live: 7 months of rain and road grime, with ice, snow, sleet, and other bad stuff for a month or two. I may just be too much to expect.

I'll give this another try when it warms up and I can expect the coatings to stay dry for most of a week or more. That's likely June or July for me, unless I can garage one car for week or so before then.
 
@RippyD. I owe you 1 bud, I haven't forgot. I'll do a test on my panels now. Post should be up shortly...


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Eldorado2k said:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...37-paint-coating-revisited-6.html#post1466403
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I read that thread with great interest. Saw that you got good sheeting and beading after using D114. My coatings won't sheet with any dirt on them. In my recent pics I used the new McKee's stuff rather than D114 because I had some already made up. I consider it essentially equal to D114 in terms of cleaning and not leaving any polymer or wax behind.

And btw, I have no reason to believe that McKee's and the other coatings I tried don't work well. I just think they don't have the advantage of being formulated for cold (below 60F) curing the way Cquartz UK has. I'm eager for summer to get here so I can try again.
 
RippyD said:
Minor update: I used three coatings on the wife's Boxster. I wanted to see if there was a visual difference on larger sections. Polish Angel on the front fender, Sonüs on the drivers door, CQuartz UK on the back fender.

Took in out this morning and later today about dusk to check it in the sun. I can't see any difference in transparency or color. All are glossy. They all repel water well. The Sonüs Ion is noticeably slicker than the other two. When I was applying Cquartz UK to the back panel I tried to tape the edge of the door coated with Ion - tape won't stick to it.

All three look great to me. I'd be happy with any of these on her car. I'll see how well the last over the next few months. And in cold, wet weather, these are all easy to apply with no issues.

Pic of the door and rear panel - Sonüs Ion on the right, Cquartz UK on the left. (And yes, the door handle is dirty.)
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Interesting that you chose Sonüs Ion. I don't think I've ever seen it mentioned before. I liked their QD and spray sealant products when I still used Klasse on my vehicles, but never gave Ion a second look. What lead you to use it?

I too am enjoying the comparison.
 
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